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Old Mar 7, 2017 | 09:25 PM
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up side down pistons..

So i bought a motor off a friend of mine. it was in his pulling truck. i decided to pull the heads. Found out the pistons are up side down.

if i go to 64cc heads will i have issues with the valves?
Can i either just spin the rod 180 or do i need to just spin the piston? here are the specs.

miles less then 2k
58 cc heads shaved 020
forged 2 valves relief pistons
eagle rotating assembly.
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Old Mar 7, 2017 | 09:36 PM
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Re: up side down pistons..

Post a photo.
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Old Mar 7, 2017 | 09:50 PM
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Old Mar 7, 2017 | 09:50 PM
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Re: up side down pistons..

the marks are very slight. thats why im thinking i will be ok going to a bigger cc head
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Old Mar 7, 2017 | 10:01 PM
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Re: up side down pistons..

From what that photo shows, it's about impossible to tell.

Got one that shows one whole bank?
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Old Mar 7, 2017 | 10:15 PM
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Re: up side down pistons..

Ill post one tomorrow.
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Old Mar 8, 2017 | 12:51 AM
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Re: up side down pistons..

I believe the valve reliefs should face the lifter valley/intake manifold.
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Old Mar 8, 2017 | 03:23 AM
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Re: up side down pistons..

Swap them around.
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Old Mar 8, 2017 | 06:59 AM
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Re: up side down pistons..

It kind of looks like the valves have kissed the pistons a bit to me.
Anyone else see those marks in the pistons where the valve reliefs should be??
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Old Mar 8, 2017 | 07:42 AM
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Yes they did kiss.
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Old Mar 8, 2017 | 08:10 AM
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Re: up side down pistons..

Pull them out and swap them around.
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Old Mar 15, 2017 | 06:32 AM
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Re: up side down pistons..

you have it apart it would be foolish not to fix it NOW
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Old Mar 16, 2017 | 06:43 PM
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Re: up side down pistons..

You can't just flip the rods, unless they were installed backwards,
which is why the pistons are upside-down. This would be your
luckiest option. Fix it right - now.
If you are using a hydraulic flat-tappet camshaft, very carefully inspect
the lobes and lifter bases. It might already be too late.
You are lucky that any valve locks did not come loose and a cylinder
did not suck a valve into the engine.
You will also have to inspect the crank fillets and rod bearings.
The bigger chamfer in the big end of the connecting rod goes
toward those fillets (or, smaller chamfers go together at the center
of the rod journals).

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Old Mar 29, 2017 | 10:08 PM
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Re: up side down pistons..

thanks guys i flipped everything around im in the process of putting it back together.
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Old Mar 30, 2017 | 01:52 AM
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Re: up side down pistons..

So the pistons were installed correctly to the rods???
And yes, they were absolutely upside down.
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