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Old Sep 21, 2017 | 01:10 PM
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TRW L2504 030 Piston Repair

Have a set of Pistons listed in thread name, they are great Pistons that have a ton of work into them; each piston in the set is equal down to the gram. Well they went threw an engine failure where the valve seat dropped out of aluminum heads and messed up a piston pretty bad.

I want to run these Pistons in my engine I'm building, but I cannot find one, or even a set of these since they are discontinued and nobody is selling them on eBay etc.

This one is pretty narly but I am fairly confident that I can salvage it by grinding it down, checking for major cracks, and welding it up. They are solid domes.

What do you guys think?
It didn't 100% go threw but it's bugged down there.

If somebody has this piston and wants to sell, let me know as well, cause I'd rather go that route.


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Old Sep 21, 2017 | 05:04 PM
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Re: TRW L2504 030 Piston Repair

Well, I guess anything is possible. I've seen top fuel heads after a major failure being repaired...stuff you wouldn't think could be fixed. But they have so much money / hours in the heads, it's worth spending a lot to repair them. Here, it would be hard to justify the cost of having someone do it, I would think. If you can do it yourself, and really know what you are doing, then maybe. But I think I'd be looking a new pistons myself.
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Old Sep 21, 2017 | 06:00 PM
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Re: TRW L2504 030 Piston Repair

I wouldn't pay anybody to do anything on my car, it's my imagination, creation, and pride

I don't think I am comfortable putting it in a $15,000 engine for it to fail and destroy it. If I can't find one within the week I'll go with my smaller domes I have. Sucks they are nice Pistons and really nice H beam rods. Other set are pressed, these are floating.

thanks for your input.
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Old Sep 21, 2017 | 07:19 PM
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Re: TRW L2504 030 Piston Repair

These have the one large valve relief, instead if the two separate ones.
But it is a full set with connecting rods.
http://www.ebay.com/itm/TRW-2304-For...-/282662149741

Oh crap, nevermind, L2304. I will keep looking for you.

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Old Sep 21, 2017 | 07:50 PM
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Re: TRW L2504 030 Piston Repair

Of course I found the one for cylinders 1, 4, 5, & 8. But you need for 2, 3, 6 & 7.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/L2503F-030-O...-/311589300892
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Old Sep 22, 2017 | 05:58 AM
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Re: TRW L2504 030 Piston Repair

Yeah I saw that haha.
i was thinking if I Milled down the center section on all of them to be able to run those, with all that effort I could just use another piston though....think I should give the company a call an see if they have anything laying around? Who knows maybe they will sucker me into buying new ones
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Re: TRW L2504 030 Piston Repair

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Old Sep 22, 2017 | 09:58 PM
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Re: TRW L2504 030 Piston Repair

If you can't find the proper single piston. then go for a new set that weighs the same.

I will keep looking. How high does your dome measure?
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Old Sep 22, 2017 | 10:03 PM
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Re: TRW L2504 030 Piston Repair

I found these Falcons.
This listing is for a set of sealed Power Hypereutectic coated skirt pistons and a matching MOLY Perfect Circle or Hastings ring set for 350 Chevy small blocks1968-2000. H617CP- 030 size 4.030" bore with .275" (11.8cc) DOME tops.Good for street/strip or light race. 5/64" 5/64" 3/16" ring grooves .927" pin diam. for 5.7" rods 3.480" stroke. PRESS or FLOAT pins included.
Amazon Amazon

Edit: I just noticed - Hypereutectic.
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Old Sep 23, 2017 | 06:26 AM
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Re: TRW L2504 030 Piston Repair

Sorry been busy, broke my daily driver so been doing that *sigh*
i can't remember at this second will have to look at my note book when I go on lunch break. It's 13 something.

Hypertecnic are a no no for this application, would feel better welding the old one

May be a little out of the box but I wonder if somebody would Axtually make one for me? Thanks a ton for helping me try to find one also.
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Old Sep 23, 2017 | 01:09 PM
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Re: TRW L2504 030 Piston Repair

That thing is MESSED UP, with a capital EFFFF.

For what it would cost to repair that heavy-azz stock replacement truck part, you can probably buy a whole set of FAR superior ones.

If you can't find a matching direct replacement and then weight-match it, time to move on.

It's not a question of, "can it be done". It's only barely even a question of, "is it A Good Idea". (NOT) It's a question of, I'm standing at point B, and I want to get to point A; is this The Best Way? again, not.
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Old Sep 23, 2017 | 06:38 PM
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Re: TRW L2504 030 Piston Repair

I assume your rings are 1/16, 1/16, 3/16 ???
What is your dome volume?
I'm getting close to finding you a replacement, just not a TRW.
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Old Sep 25, 2017 | 01:08 AM
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Re: TRW L2504 030 Piston Repair

Online says 14.3 cc dome volume.
So here is what I narrowed it down to.

Call Ross for them to explain the differences.
These are 15.2cc. But you will probably lose 1cc from smoothing the dome.
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Old Oct 2, 2017 | 06:23 AM
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Re: TRW L2504 030 Piston Repair

Hmmm yeah nice find that should work as long as I get the correct side lol. Are those solid domes? I'm
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Old Oct 2, 2017 | 07:21 PM
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I would call Ross and also send them that picture of your TRW.
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Old Dec 10, 2017 | 01:04 AM
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Re: TRW L2504 030 Piston Repair

Look what I found:
https://www.ebay.com/itm/Chevy-350-L...p2047675.l2557

Reserve not met and nobody bid. Contact seller to see if he still has them.


Oh crap - 2304

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Old Dec 10, 2017 | 08:17 AM
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Re: TRW L2504 030 Piston Repair

Damn. Wonder if trw still has the templet for these.
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Old Dec 15, 2017 | 07:55 PM
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Re: TRW L2504 030 Piston Repair

I found a guy in Michigan that has a ton of TRW pistons. I emailed him for you.
Unfortunately, he does not have the 1 piston you are looking for, but he is saving my email in case he runs across one.
I will let you know if he contacts me.
Look up Johnsons Speed Warehouse on ebay.


Is that the way your domes came, or were they machined down?
Was there an even higher compression piston like yours that could have the dome cut down to match your piston?
And what would that TRW number be?


Similar to my 302 Chevy pistons. The 11:1 piston was L2209AF, the 12.5:1 was L2210AF.
The only difference was the height of the domes.

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