PLEASE HELP!! Trying to get my first start and floundering
PLEASE HELP!! Trying to get my first start and floundering
Okay im gonna reach out to you all for some help.
I have a 92 Camaro that came with a V6 I swapped out for a 350 TPI that I built. The engine harness came from a 90 Trans Am. Hooked everything up but when I turn the key, the only thing that does anything is the fuel system priming. It has a new and functional starter, charged battery, new distributor, plugs and wires. Everything else like the lights and tail hatch motor work. The distributor, plugs and wires are all new. So is there some ignition wire setup im missing or that could be bad, maybe the ignition coil?? I jumped the solenoid and the starter motor definitely works, so please, any ideas would seriously help! Thanks!!
P.S.: I'm doing this build almost ENTIRELY off youtube tutorials. I have ZERO formal training in auto mechanics so im learning as I go.
I have a 92 Camaro that came with a V6 I swapped out for a 350 TPI that I built. The engine harness came from a 90 Trans Am. Hooked everything up but when I turn the key, the only thing that does anything is the fuel system priming. It has a new and functional starter, charged battery, new distributor, plugs and wires. Everything else like the lights and tail hatch motor work. The distributor, plugs and wires are all new. So is there some ignition wire setup im missing or that could be bad, maybe the ignition coil?? I jumped the solenoid and the starter motor definitely works, so please, any ideas would seriously help! Thanks!!
P.S.: I'm doing this build almost ENTIRELY off youtube tutorials. I have ZERO formal training in auto mechanics so im learning as I go.
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From: Milwaukee
Car: 92 Firebird, 77 Trans Am SE, 86 Z28
Engine: 5.7 HSR, T/A 6.6, empty
Transmission: T-5, TH350, T-5
Axle/Gears: 3.08 posi, 3.23 posi, 3.23
Re: PLEASE HELP!! Trying to get my first start and floundering
The VATS antitheft, ignition switch, the starter relay, or the nuetral safety switch are the common causes of a no crank situation when the starter is functioning. For wiring diagrams http://www.austinthirdgen.org/index.php?pid=19
Re: PLEASE HELP!! Trying to get my first start and floundering
The VATS antitheft, ignition switch, the starter relay, or the nuetral safety switch are the common causes of a no crank situation when the starter is functioning. For wiring diagrams http://www.austinthirdgen.org/index.php?pid=19
Okay cool. Next question(s): is there a specific way to test each of those and start a process of elimination?
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From: Milwaukee
Car: 92 Firebird, 77 Trans Am SE, 86 Z28
Engine: 5.7 HSR, T/A 6.6, empty
Transmission: T-5, TH350, T-5
Axle/Gears: 3.08 posi, 3.23 posi, 3.23
Re: PLEASE HELP!! Trying to get my first start and floundering
Use the wiring diagrams to see where power it lost to the starter. The purple wire to the starter is likely not getting power as the starter tested fine on the engine already. There's lots of places to start checking, the fuse is a good place to give you a direction. Turn the key to "crank" and see if it has power on either side. Yes? Then follow the line according to the diagram. No? Then it's somewhere forward in the diagram.
Re: PLEASE HELP!! Trying to get my first start and floundering
Use the wiring diagrams to see where power it lost to the starter. The purple wire to the starter is likely not getting power as the starter tested fine on the engine already. There's lots of places to start checking, the fuse is a good place to give you a direction. Turn the key to "crank" and see if it has power on either side. Yes? Then follow the line according to the diagram. No? Then it's somewhere forward in the diagram.
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From: WA
Car: 1989 IROC-Z
Engine: L98 350 TPI
Transmission: 700R4
Axle/Gears: BW 9 Bolt / 2.77 Posi
Re: PLEASE HELP!! Trying to get my first start and floundering
Certainly could be VATS since both harnesses are '89+. I'd start there since the testing is relatively cheap and easy to do. You can test if it's VATS getting in your way by bypassing the starter enable relay with a thick wire and 2 male spade connectors. If the car starts cranking, that relay wasn't getting activated (or that relay is no good) and VATS is what controls it. The other thing VATS does is disable the injectors so you might try installing a bypass module if the cranking test is successful and the relay isn't busted.
Joined: Nov 2008
Posts: 2,095
Likes: 175
From: Milwaukee
Car: 92 Firebird, 77 Trans Am SE, 86 Z28
Engine: 5.7 HSR, T/A 6.6, empty
Transmission: T-5, TH350, T-5
Axle/Gears: 3.08 posi, 3.23 posi, 3.23
Re: PLEASE HELP!! Trying to get my first start and floundering
Wiring diagrams aren't very complicated. A few things may seem confusing but you'll pick it up quickly, I'm sure. Most of it is just 12v power and ground. Follow the lines. And use a test light to see what has what.
As an aside, make sure you have everything connected that needs to be connected. Check to make sure your grounds to the chassis and the power wires are all hooked up. Don't chase your own tail.
As an aside, make sure you have everything connected that needs to be connected. Check to make sure your grounds to the chassis and the power wires are all hooked up. Don't chase your own tail.
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Re: PLEASE HELP!! Trying to get my first start and floundering
Certainly could be VATS since both harnesses are '89+. I'd start there since the testing is relatively cheap and easy to do. You can test if it's VATS getting in your way by bypassing the starter enable relay with a thick wire and 2 male spade connectors. If the car starts cranking, that relay wasn't getting activated (or that relay is no good) and VATS is what controls it. The other thing VATS does is disable the injectors so you might try installing a bypass module if the cranking test is successful and the relay isn't busted.
Joined: Nov 2008
Posts: 2,095
Likes: 175
From: Milwaukee
Car: 92 Firebird, 77 Trans Am SE, 86 Z28
Engine: 5.7 HSR, T/A 6.6, empty
Transmission: T-5, TH350, T-5
Axle/Gears: 3.08 posi, 3.23 posi, 3.23
Re: PLEASE HELP!! Trying to get my first start and floundering
Certainly could be VATS since both harnesses are '89+. I'd start there since the testing is relatively cheap and easy to do. You can test if it's VATS getting in your way by bypassing the starter enable relay with a thick wire and 2 male spade connectors. If the car starts cranking, that relay wasn't getting activated (or that relay is no good) and VATS is what controls it. The other thing VATS does is disable the injectors so you might try installing a bypass module if the cranking test is successful and the relay isn't busted.
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Joined: Feb 2021
Posts: 1,208
Likes: 449
From: WA
Car: 1989 IROC-Z
Engine: L98 350 TPI
Transmission: 700R4
Axle/Gears: BW 9 Bolt / 2.77 Posi
Re: PLEASE HELP!! Trying to get my first start and floundering
Yeah, it should be the same. Or, even if it's putting out a different hz to the ecm, it should still activate the start enable relay. I always bypass the relay first because it's easy and quick to access, plus there's the potential that the relay itself is bad.
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