ok my friend just bought a 3.8L 5pd 95 camaro. t-tops. he payed 4500 for it(sound right). i am wonderin if he put headers(can u find headers for a v6) flowmasters and intake what the THEORETICAL times would be?? i really didn't know what to tell him when he asked and i dind't want to under/over shoot it and get his hopes up or down about the 3.8L. thanks guys.



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The way i see it v8 or not domestic's are domestic's as long as it's not rice, lets not hate.

 

mid-low 15's is my guess. My cousin ran a 15.8 bone stock in his 01' grand prix 3.8. I'm guessing the camaro won't be much quicker stock.

 

NICE THEORETICAL question.....but don't you think you might beable to fine answers on a Mustang board?.....However it can stay open.

 

why would he look for what a camaro runs on a mustang board?

 

I guess he misread it. Even moderators make mistakes. I would say a low 15 second with full exhaust.

 

only 96 and newer fbods came with the 3.8 V6. 93-95s had 3.4 V6s.

 

Ya he must have misread it and thought it said 3.8 mustang. And I also thought the 96 and up had the 3.8 but I wasn't sure if it started in 95 or 96 when they changed from 3.4 to 3.8.

 

96 was the first year with a 3.8. I have a friend with a 3.8/5 speed with cam, intake, headers, dual cat conversion, dual exhaust, and gobs of suspension, and he is only running about 14.9 I think that with just headers, intake, and exhaust, you should run mid 15's with that 5 speed, low 15's with an auto.

 

My fault............I did misread it.............please go on....

 

why would a manual car be slower than an auto, usually the stick is faster?

 

i dont know what year it started but kbb and my friend both said it was a 3.8L. if i am wrong sorry, and yea i guess even mod's can make mistakes, when i first read it i was like wtf???

well thanks, that is around what i thought it would run low 15's. thanks guys

 

In 4th Gen cases that's 99% due to the fact that manuals got better rear gears.

 

Actually, the 3.8 debuted in mid '95 as an option for the f-body.(the 3.4 was still available) It's the same 200 horsepower one as the 96 up. I sold Pontiacs from 94-99.

 

manuals are almost ALWAYS faster than their automatic counterparts, not just f bods, anything.

 

ill have to dissagree on the manuals are always faster.......

85% of the muscle cars were autos

most of the time its because of the driver, a good drag racer could take an auto against the same car with a manual and tear it a new @$$hole

 

Mustang 1/4 is right. In an automatic, you can't misshift, and the shiftpoints are usually at a certain point to maximize time in the powerband. It is the perfect shift everytime. From a dead stop, an auto will win every time in the same cars. From a roll, a manual will usually win.:lala:

 

Not neccesarly,
If the powerband is in the upper half of the rpm range, the auto trans is much slower this time, since it has to climb from the bottom of the rpm range (where it has much less power) and find its way up into the sweet spot, whereas a stick can just drop it a little below its peak torque rating and stay in its power curve without starting away from it like an auto.
Of course, your comment can be very torque for low rpm torque biased engines

 

I don't know where everyone is from but around here a bone stock 3.8 Camaro runs low 15's.

The 3.8 came out in 95 1/2 not 96

If they have the V-6 performance package 15.3-15.5 stock is the norm.

With headers and an exhaust 14's are easy.

 

My friend ran a 15.2 bone stock in his 95 3.8L. He did have the Y82? Performance package though. His car even still had the paper filter on it.

 

not true

the 3.8 was a option 1/2 way through 1995 but only came with an automatic that year

 

i disagree with the manual auto argument that i started.

Unless a car with an auto has a transbrake and higher than stock convertor, the manual will be faster off the line. you can dump the clutch at the best possible rpm for traction and power. the stock auotmatic is left to launch at whatever stall speed the convertor stalls at (like 1500-1800 stock).

I'm talking about ultimate best time, not repeatability. an auto wins for consistency for sure, that's why dragracers use autos now (sad). a manual will be faster because of less power lost through the drivetrain and faster shifts.

Also, manual transmissions USUALLY have better ratios for acceleration than a 3 speed or four speed auto (not to mention a friggin powerglide)

As for the old muscle cars with autos, the guys who dragraced in the 60s used 4 speeds because of all the benefits i stated above. they would cut every other tooth off the synchros to allow faster shifts without use of the clutch, truly awesome if you've ever seen an in car video of a 60s dragrace (or are old enough to remember, not me).

I really dislike the reliance on autos now for dragracing, i think it takes away sooo much from the sport, the drivers have less and less personal style.

**disclaimer: this is for stock autos that this post was about in the first place, not souped up transbrake autos with 5500 rpm stall convertors.