do EX hondas come with VTEC engines??? or is it just the Si?
the guy that refuses to race me (when i had a 305, and my car was up and running) just put some "VTEC racing" decals under his doors.
i just want the right to laugh at him the next time i see him.
biker
.......car is coming along....i'll keep you posted.

 

the civic Si comes with VTEC. the ex does not. that doesnt mean he didnt swap a VTEC motor into it.

 

the only hondas that have v-tech motors are si civics and preludes. an easy way to tell is look at the redline on the tach. the preludes redline around 75 and the si's around 7 i believe....

 

thanks...i know he didn't do a swap. it's just a stock civic EX with a few mods (cold air) and plugs, oh and wheels and a box in the back, stuff like that.
good to hear......i will be pointing and laughing at him the next time i see him
biker

ok you can close this post....question answered.

 

Sorry guys but that is inaccurate. I know a girl with an Arrord EX and it has V-Tech. It was not swapped in either.

 

exactly, my grandmother just bought a 96(i think) honda accord ex i believe and it has VTEC, not sure if it's an ex but i know it's not an SI.

 

Me and my buddy were up at a honda dealership looking at this firehawk, and a guy that worked there came up to us, so we started making fun of this riced out civic lx. He said that if they were gonna add "performance", they should do it to the ex, because it has v-tec.

 

newer ex does come with pitifully slow v-tec engine. ricers will never understand that the power is in the B16/B18/H22.

 

some guy around here has a del sol that has V-tech badging. Looks real tho. Whats so badass about the v-tech anyways? everyone talks about it but i hear its weak. Some chinese guy around here has a new s2000 with some mods and ive seen him get smoked by stock 5.0 mustangs left and right.

 

v-tec is a way for smaller displacement engines to make up for their lack of displacement (somewhat). v-tec engines run 2 cam profiles. The first one is set for the most torque possible (still low! haha) but when it reaches 5750 rpm it changes. The second one (activating around 5750rpm) is set hor high horsepower, it uses a large amount of overlap to achieve the perfomance that it does, allowing gasses to pass thru, and effeciently remove all the burnt gasses in chamber.

 

so he DOES have a VTEC. it's a 01'
but it's kind of like a guy with a TBI 305 (no offense) claiming he can run and get the same performance as say a guy with a TPI 350.
biker

 

thats what this friend of mine always keeps saying. the Si is a good car, but it's not for the "tuners"
biker

 

I drive a '95 Civic SRI with the 1.6 ltr VTEC as my daily driver. The VTEC means that I basically get a 2ltr performance. It is quite quick above 4500rpm and gets me an average 37 mpg!!!! That includes 100mph driving and traffic jams. I have to say for what it is I love it. The IROC would kick its as5 on 4 cylinders though

 

it doesn't matter if it's a vtec or not. unless he's got a turbo or lotsa money into that car, he'll never keep up with a 305 tpi.

just my $.02

 

There's 2 kinds of VTEC, one for performance, and the other one is for fuel efficiency. I think the DOHC version is always the performance version, while the SOHC is the emissions version.

I got edumacated on Honda engines when a guy on a local car board tried to argue that the 1.6L Honda engine is the best naturally aspirated engine to come in a mass produced car. I, of course, said that the 350 Chevy was better.

We decided that for a car that weighs more than 2000lbs, the SBC is the way to go.

 

Yeah it's the VTI VTEC that you have to watch out for. Mine is 0-60mph in 9 or so and the VTI is low 8's.

 

A Japanese CRX with the DOHC VTEC engine (B16a) did mid 14's depending on the weight, so I'd say it's possible.

 

well, we're not in japan now are we...

just kidding i was thinking more along the lines of a civic or an accord, both of which are pretty darn slow (stock). the crx totally slipped my mind.

 

True, and it would cost you about 3grand for parts to swap to a Jap-spec engine, just to run mid 14's. And most of these guys can't do the work themselves, so they pay a shop to do it. More money than brains with those guys.

3 grand into an f-body would make you *way* faster, and you don't have to worry about getting run over by SUV's that can't see you.

 

agree'd!!

 

hey crazyhawiian, you cant forget the engine code K20. just kidding, my car is slow

 

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Ive never been in a VTECH car but Ive been in a celica GTS or whatever with the toyota version of the VTECH...SLOW then you hit about 6 grand and it kicks alittle but definetly not fast like everyone claims. I had no problem outrunning it in my TBI 305 (i know slow also but oh well will soon be a 350 i hope).

 

you outran a celica gts in a tbi 305? thats pretty impressive, sure it wasn't just a gt? and the toyota version of vtec is vveti or something like that. i am sure someone around here knows its name

 

Yeah the Toyota/Lexus version is VVTi and i have a really hard time believing you outran a GTS with your 305 tbi. Maybe you'll beat him off the line with the TQ advantage but he'll reel you in really fast. The GTS has 180hp compared to the 305 tbi 175 and its waaay lighter. I have the same exact motor (305 tbi) and when I raced my friends GTS on the freeway from 60mph he had me right away with the advantage of his 6 speed to my 700r4. He was right in his powerband and I was already playing catchup. Maybe you raced a GT or a GTS with a bad driver??

sorry didnt know about K20, is that the RSX engine?

 

yes the rsx engine is k20a.

 

cool! thanks for the info!! i dont think its a bad engine myself, but I think honda pretty much tuned it to the fullest leaving much to be desired on the aftermarket side. boltons will only get you so far and the CR is too high for any F/I. reminds me of the S2000. when I made my comment on the B16/B18/H22 I was reffering to the hybrid honda ppl (old 91 civic hatch, gut it and swap in b16 type stuff), didnt take into account the newest generation of engines. still very impressive numbers for the displacement man!!

 

yeah the type s is pretty screwed for FI. 11.1 cr is pretty high. the base is only like 9.8 so its not too bad off. no way in hell i am gonna drop in forged parts though. maybe a supercharger at about 8 psi in the future. not really worried about making 12 second runs though.

 

THE ONLY HONDA EX THAT HAS VTEC IS THE ACCORD EX-V AND IT SAYS THAT AS A BADGE ON THE REAR TRUNK LID OF THE CAR..THIS IS A 4DR 5SPD CAR THAT DOES THE 1/4 IN A LITTLE LESS THEN 16SECS NOT BAD FOR A STOCK VTEC ACCORD!!

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HX, DX, and SI all have VTEC

 

Preluade back in 1998 made 195hp. The Accord 2 door coupe made 200hp. But if you take a civic and dump 10K into it you can get a J spec motor and trans making 525hp. Not bad, but for 10K I think I could do better with my car!!!

 

I own a 2002 Honda Civic EX. I agree that they are slow but the fact is that it is a VTEC. The SI mainly has a sticker behind the doors saying VTEC DOHC. EX are slow compared to a Camaro even stock Camaro. Just thought I could set some of you straight with the Honda, just like you guys set me straight on Camaro's. Thanks guys!

Friend of 25thZ28

 

I own a 2002 Honda Civic EX. I agree that they are slow but the fact is that it is a VTEC. The SI mainly has a sticker behind the doors saying VTEC DOHC. EX are slow compared to a Camaro even stock Camaro. Just thought I could set some of you straight with the Honda, just like you guys set me straight on Camaro's. Thanks guys!

Friend of 25thZ28

 

I own a 2002 Honda Civic EX. I agree that they are slow but the fact is that it is a VTEC. The SI mainly has a sticker behind the doors saying VTEC DOHC. EX are slow compared to a Camaro even stock Camaro. Just thought I could set some of you straight with the Honda, just like you guys set me straight on Camaro's. Thanks guys!

Friend of 25thZ28

 

no its a GTS i know the guy. It auto...I think thats the only reason I had him. Plus my car does have a few mods...not much but some.

 

the EX DOES have VTEC. my bro has one. his friend just bought a B16 to put in a crx, should be interestingly fast. it ran a 16.4 with 108 horsepower SOHC so now he is going to have 160 DOHC with a 8k rpm redline. he got the engine and tranny for 1600 from some local place. not a bad deal. i am curious to see if he will be in the low 15's.

 

B16 in a crx will get him into the 14's.

 

and with all the FI options for the b16, that crx has the possibility of being pretty damn fast. how much is his friend willing to put into that engine?

 

basically a direct swap in then playing with headers and stuff. i am thinking low 15's high 14's, but most likely low 15's. its a 52 horse increase with a higher redline but i dunno about it shaving 2 full seconds as a direct swap.

 

Highest factory rating of a CRX was 105 Hp in the '91 Si... 1.6L 16 Valve.

I believe that the Ex's started coming with Vtec back in '95... The older ones did not have a badge that said Vtec, but it was there.

 

there are 4 different vtecs that come in honda cars now.....

civic HX has the super high efficiency model
civic EX has the sporty model
civic SI has the 'fast' model
accord v6 coupe has the 'really fast' model

 

cant forget i-vtec....

 

just for the info...
2002 HONDA VFR800

has the VTEC called V4 VTEC...

http://www.mcnews.com.au/Testing/Hon...800/Page_1.htm

now thats VTEC on a bike...