Ok this race never happened but I wonder what the new SS would win by if both car's were stock, The 92 has a 350 TPI and the 2002 has the 330 hp motor with the SLP upgrades, How bad would the SS win??

 

Well, 92 would run a mid 14 or so stock.
SS, I guess a high 12 is possible. Most likely very low 13.

 

How ever many car lengths are in 1.5 seconds... My guess is that it would be such a murder that it wouldn't even be worth "guessing" how many car lengths he lost by..

A friend of mine just got an automatic 2002 Z28.. He has spend a couple hundred on an SLP intake box and an exhaust cutout. I don't consider him to be a good driver, either. He ran a 13.1. That's impressive. Bad driver + Low milage car + $400 = a 13.1. Scary to think if he were a good driver and had bought the 6 speed..

 

It sounds like they took out the car just before it was hitting its true prime!! That is fast.

 

What's with all of the stupid race questions, Camaro?
I mean, come on man..
Do you think about this crap before you post it?

 

no dude, i just wanna know how bad a SS would beat an 92 Z28, which is one of the fastest third gen's stock besides a T/TA.

 

A rule of thumb is 10 carlengths for every second.

 

The 92 Firehawk, unless you consider it a special model, but other than that a 91-92 Speed Density Thirdgen is the fastest with 1/4 times of 14.2-14.4 stock. The 350 Formula's and later 5-speed 305's were quick also.

 

at the track with my 1988 formula 350 that ran about 14.5, the guy in the like a 2001 camaro z28 ran a 13.4 and we were pretty close untill the 1/8 th mile mark and then i got killed..
he had about a 2 car length lead and then when we hit about half way i was eating dust.. he finished well in front of me about 8 to 10 car lengths.. hard to tell when your getting beat so bad

 

Well, lets put it this way.....My grand prix n/a runs a tad quicker than a 2002 SS M6 camaro and when I race mid 14 second thirdgens or other cars..........I can just play with them and lug along in 3rd gear while they are tearing through the gears, then I just drop down a gear and punch it and fly away when I've had enough fun seeing how fast they are. So yeah, the difference between a high 12 second car and a mid 14 second car is quite extreme especially from a roll. A torquey 350 TPI might have a chance from a stop for the first gear or so while the LS1 roasts the tires, but once it hooks it'll be gone.

 

You Bastard!

I bet I know who he's talking bout hehehe.

 

I think it was a Mustang performance magazine that got a brand new, bone stock LS1 Z28 to hit a 12.8. I've got a friend who ran a 12.9 with his bone stock M6 SS. Most LS1 drivers are usually in the low 13s though with bone stock cars, but it only takes a few hundred in bolt ons to put them square in the 12s. a Z28 is better for drag racing than the SS because it's got lighter suspension. SS has a slight emphasis on handling which allows it to run a road course with a Boxster S (check out May's Road and Track if you think I am BSing). As for the 330 HP SLP SS, it only makes 7 more RWHP than a "310" HP Z28, if you ask me, a Z28 was always making 320 HP. I also hear that the 91-92 L98 Z28s were running low 14s and even saw a 13.8 as a stock time. I think that's , but the low 14s with 3.27s seems reasonable. My friend with a 91 Z28 took on an Auto 94 LT1 and beat him off the line. They were door to door till about 80 mph when the LT1 pulled ahead by a little under half a car length.

 

I'd have to call on the 13.8 but ya never know

and the 91-92 fbody's, and i think even 1990 didn't get a 3.27 rear, they stopped in either 89 or 90


The SS will monkey rape the Z, it will be bad, it'll be ugly

The SS will probably REALLY start to pull after the 1/8 mile or so like previously stated..

 

I knew the SS would rape him I just didn't know how bad. I read in Motor Trend that the new 02 SS ran a 12.7 with the M6 and SLP upgrades

 

yeah with a professional driver and probably some weight taken off that they don't tell you

I wouldn't expect to see that time out of 90% of the SS' out there, most will be in the 13.1-13.4 range..

 

yeah they went to 3.23s, but is it a 10 bolt? those BW 9 bolts were rock solid. the 7.5 in' 10 bolt is puny compared to the aussie rear but GM has been retarded before, hell they are retarded now for killing the f-body, denying the Grand Prix G8 and Cadillac Cien V12 to go into production, putting emphasis on pre-riced 4 cylinder turd cars like the Crapalier a Sunfire (heard about the wonderfully powerful turbo crapalier making a whopping 170 FWHP and running solid 15 flat!!!) and marketing the Holden Monaro as a completely unique car.

 

who would win a 02 z or a 02 ss both six speeds and both same drivers both bone stock

 

Which ever car was more of a freak. There is very little difference in the performance of the two. Major differences off the top of my head are the hood and exhaust. If somehow you swaped the engine from one into the other when making the comparison, I'd give it to the SS by a small margin. But otherwise it could go either way. An example would be MM&FF getting ahold of a bone stock (to the paper filter and tank of gas from the dealership) '98 Z28 that ran a 12.9 1/4. Most 98-00s are closer to 13.6.

'02 vs a '92 would be murder as stated before. 13.3 seems an easy average for those guys and I'm seeing more 13.1s and even flat 12s as people get used to the car. And with an LS1 you might see slightly better times in an automatic. Unless the M6 driver is a good bit above average.

:hail: The 4L60E in the LS1s.

 

But what if you mod the -92 Tpi with bolt ons and free mods for like 1K and get a 13.7 of it Than its not so far away from a stock Ls1 that runs like 13.4........ :lala:

 

i'd still say it comes down to the driver, GM really didn't do any performance mods to the SS over the Z aside from the ram air

 

the ram air system on a SS is pretty crappy if you ask me. have any of you ever seen one? it twists all around before going into the engine. the T/A ram air is WAY better. its a straight shot to the maf. no twisting and turning.

 

that's why the T/A has been and will always be better than a camaro j/k

 

Yea your right, but thats if the camaro has no engine in it... j/k

Cant us third gens all just get along

LMAO

 

But then again, the Pontiac Ram Air system on the WS6 doesn't give it much of an advantage either. It gives a very small HP gain at 80+ speeds, but I think there was a magazine that raced a Z28 (maybe it was an SS, but I'm pretty sure it was a Z28) and a WS6 and the Z28 won. Then we had a guy on LS1.com who's parents bought him and his twin brother a WS6 and an SS and the SS was faster. They'd switch cars and the SS would always win by a hoodlength. It all comes down to which engine accidently came with more power from the factory.

 

Sad but true

 

I have to agree it would be a slaughter. My IROC is only a 89 with a few mods but my TA would eat it alive off the line and all the way down the track.

As far as SS's being faster than Z's it's not true at all. Same with WS6 TA's run on average the same as regular TA's