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Originally posted by Lessk
One more thing. The car doesnt deserve respect, the person who built it and racest it like a civil person deserves respect. And I mean a real import tuner, that you can sit down and talk with. Not the r!ce burners...I don't care if they do have a fast car, they don't deserve respect. The same goes with jerks driving domestics.
The person makes or breaks the car...and sometimes literaly breaks the car. Some people shouldn't race.
One more thing. The car doesnt deserve respect, the person who built it and racest it like a civil person deserves respect. And I mean a real import tuner, that you can sit down and talk with. Not the r!ce burners...I don't care if they do have a fast car, they don't deserve respect. The same goes with jerks driving domestics.
The person makes or breaks the car...and sometimes literaly breaks the car. Some people shouldn't race.
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Originally posted by 383backinblack
this has got to be one of the most ridiculous arguments ive ever heard......first of all i know there are not nearly as many racing venues in japan....and the hype over there is probably just as bad as it is here. EVERYONE has a 10 sec car, didnt you know that?
its a population just like in the US, its also a highly industrialized country just like the US....if you took a random sample, i bet youd find that cars over there are about the same as they are over on a percentage basis as far as 1/4 times go.
secondly, RX7, you've never been to japan so cut it out
this has got to be one of the most ridiculous arguments ive ever heard......first of all i know there are not nearly as many racing venues in japan....and the hype over there is probably just as bad as it is here. EVERYONE has a 10 sec car, didnt you know that?
its a population just like in the US, its also a highly industrialized country just like the US....if you took a random sample, i bet youd find that cars over there are about the same as they are over on a percentage basis as far as 1/4 times go.
secondly, RX7, you've never been to japan so cut it out
no not everybody has a 10 second car over there
and as far as me being to japan no I haven't but I do have a friend over there right now and someone I once worked with who was stationed over there. these are the people I am getting my info from.
I've seen Hondas run 12's at the tracks. I've seen all motor Hondas run 10's @ the IRDC. So it is possible. If he's running Nitrous and he uses it right I believe it can be done. N/A Honda motors make their peak power at the high RPM's (Vtec). If he uses the Nitrous at the low revs he could be in his powerband pretty quick and pretty often. And because he runs slicks dosnt mean he will break axles. Hondas dont have alot of torque like domestics so axles rarely get broken if the cars are driven correctly. The stock GSR motor puts down 180hp at the flywheel. If he did motor work it could easily be putting over 200 hp at the wheels. Add Nitrous at the right time, slicks for traction, a stripped car for reduced weight, and good driving skills and I think it is possible. But can he really do it? Who knows, you'll have to see it to believe it. I hate it too. But it is possible.
This board is about THEORETICAL AND STREET RACING. So know one cares if your car can handle or not, just matters on street racing. Everyone in America pretty much claims that they are a "hardcore racer". You notice that for a Civic to run in the 12's a majority of the time it is fully tubbed, and has an engine swap. The 12 sec Civics are usually brought to the track on a trailer. Not saying that it is not true, I have seen 12 sec street legal Civics, but are rather rare. Anyone notice how when a Civic hits into the 11' or so they has a 20 page magazine article. I simply do not like Hondas because they are generally POS. I take it people have not noticed the great majority of early 90 turbo imports that were released and raped the F-bodys in the 1/4. I dont hate all imports, I personally would be a Nissan man if I got an import.
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Originally posted by rx7speed
no not everybody has a 10 second car over there
and as far as me being to japan no I haven't but I do have a friend over there right now and someone I once worked with who was stationed over there. these are the people I am getting my info from.
no not everybody has a 10 second car over there
and as far as me being to japan no I haven't but I do have a friend over there right now and someone I once worked with who was stationed over there. these are the people I am getting my info from.
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Originally posted by CrazyHawaiian
I've seen Hondas run 12's at the tracks. I've seen all motor Hondas run 10's @ the IRDC. So it is possible. If he's running Nitrous and he uses it right I believe it can be done. N/A Honda motors make their peak power at the high RPM's (Vtec). If he uses the Nitrous at the low revs he could be in his powerband pretty quick and pretty often. And because he runs slicks dosnt mean he will break axles. Hondas dont have alot of torque like domestics so axles rarely get broken if the cars are driven correctly. The stock GSR motor puts down 180hp at the flywheel. If he did motor work it could easily be putting over 200 hp at the wheels. Add Nitrous at the right time, slicks for traction, a stripped car for reduced weight, and good driving skills and I think it is possible. But can he really do it? Who knows, you'll have to see it to believe it. I hate it too. But it is possible.
I've seen Hondas run 12's at the tracks. I've seen all motor Hondas run 10's @ the IRDC. So it is possible. If he's running Nitrous and he uses it right I believe it can be done. N/A Honda motors make their peak power at the high RPM's (Vtec). If he uses the Nitrous at the low revs he could be in his powerband pretty quick and pretty often. And because he runs slicks dosnt mean he will break axles. Hondas dont have alot of torque like domestics so axles rarely get broken if the cars are driven correctly. The stock GSR motor puts down 180hp at the flywheel. If he did motor work it could easily be putting over 200 hp at the wheels. Add Nitrous at the right time, slicks for traction, a stripped car for reduced weight, and good driving skills and I think it is possible. But can he really do it? Who knows, you'll have to see it to believe it. I hate it too. But it is possible.
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The guy that owns the car is 19 I think, My little brother went to high school with him and I know a little bit of his other cars. He first had a mid 90's civic hath with a 70 some hp emgine. he put some ugly 17s on it lowered it cheap fart exhaust ugly headlight and a lot or ***** mods. After a few months of owning this car he ran it through a guardrail somewhere and totaled it. I havent heard anything of him since this car and now people are talking about this car and how "great" it is. I am doubtful from the past car but that was a while back so I dont know. I personally havent even seen this car yet so I dont know that much about it. I guess we'll see soon
Originally posted by BigErns90IrocZ
You notice that for a Civic to run in the 12's a majority of the time it is fully tubbed, and has an engine swap. The 12 sec Civics are usually brought to the track on a trailer.
You notice that for a Civic to run in the 12's a majority of the time it is fully tubbed, and has an engine swap. The 12 sec Civics are usually brought to the track on a trailer.
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My stock 85 Z is slow and I know it. The reason it is slow to me is my mom drives a Ford Lightning and my dad has a big block 68 Camaro That is one of the differences between me and the ricers, they will have a slow car and think it is fast, they usally don't know any better. All **** owners need to take a ride in a muscle car. To their respect, some of them are built right and they are fast but more of them have intake, and a coffee can mufler and the owner will think it is fast
Originally posted by chevkid
My stock 85 Z is slow and I know it. The reason it is slow to me is my mom drives a Ford Lightning and my dad has a big block 68 Camaro That is one of the differences between me and the ricers, they will have a slow car and think it is fast, they usally don't know any better. All **** owners need to take a ride in a muscle car. To their respect, some of them are built right and they are fast but more of them have intake, and a coffee can mufler and the owner will think it is fast
My stock 85 Z is slow and I know it. The reason it is slow to me is my mom drives a Ford Lightning and my dad has a big block 68 Camaro That is one of the differences between me and the ricers, they will have a slow car and think it is fast, they usally don't know any better. All **** owners need to take a ride in a muscle car. To their respect, some of them are built right and they are fast but more of them have intake, and a coffee can mufler and the owner will think it is fast
This is somewhat (but not entirely) off-topic, but I personally enjoy the negative attention that r|cers bring upon the import community overall (notice that I am distinguishing r|cers as a subgroup apart from the import community overall).
The reason I enjoy this negative attention: this subgroup of idiots and poseurs lowers the expecations of a good number of domestic owners who don't really pay much attention to imports beyond what they see from the Hollywood money machine and the gaudy bling-bling turds that cruise and fart down the avenues on the weekends. If I'm lucky, they place me and my vehicle into the same category as the r|ce subculture and assume that I'm easy prey. I've been accused of spraying so many times now that I've come to expect it.
Back to the original topic, I have seen/raced a local fellow with a 5th gen Civic that has a basic swap and nitrous. He consistently runs 12's in the 1/4 (12.6-12.7, to be more precise). It's not stripped or tubbed, and it's his daily driver. Of course they don't all run this well, but they can.
Carry on.
The reason I enjoy this negative attention: this subgroup of idiots and poseurs lowers the expecations of a good number of domestic owners who don't really pay much attention to imports beyond what they see from the Hollywood money machine and the gaudy bling-bling turds that cruise and fart down the avenues on the weekends. If I'm lucky, they place me and my vehicle into the same category as the r|ce subculture and assume that I'm easy prey. I've been accused of spraying so many times now that I've come to expect it.
Back to the original topic, I have seen/raced a local fellow with a 5th gen Civic that has a basic swap and nitrous. He consistently runs 12's in the 1/4 (12.6-12.7, to be more precise). It's not stripped or tubbed, and it's his daily driver. Of course they don't all run this well, but they can.
Carry on.
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Originally posted by SPOOM
This is somewhat (but not entirely) off-topic, but I personally enjoy the negative attention that r|cers bring upon the import community overall (notice that I am distinguishing r|cers as a subgroup apart from the import community overall).
The reason I enjoy this negative attention: this subgroup of idiots and poseurs lowers the expecations of a good number of domestic owners who don't really pay much attention to imports beyond what they see from the Hollywood money machine and the gaudy bling-bling turds that cruise and fart down the avenues on the weekends. If I'm lucky, they place me and my vehicle into the same category as the r|ce subculture and assume that I'm easy prey. I've been accused of spraying so many times now that I've come to expect it.
Back to the original topic, I have seen/raced a local fellow with a 5th gen Civic that has a basic swap and nitrous. He consistently runs 12's in the 1/4 (12.6-12.7, to be more precise). It's not stripped or tubbed, and it's his daily driver. Of course they don't all run this well, but they can.
Carry on.
This is somewhat (but not entirely) off-topic, but I personally enjoy the negative attention that r|cers bring upon the import community overall (notice that I am distinguishing r|cers as a subgroup apart from the import community overall).
The reason I enjoy this negative attention: this subgroup of idiots and poseurs lowers the expecations of a good number of domestic owners who don't really pay much attention to imports beyond what they see from the Hollywood money machine and the gaudy bling-bling turds that cruise and fart down the avenues on the weekends. If I'm lucky, they place me and my vehicle into the same category as the r|ce subculture and assume that I'm easy prey. I've been accused of spraying so many times now that I've come to expect it.
Back to the original topic, I have seen/raced a local fellow with a 5th gen Civic that has a basic swap and nitrous. He consistently runs 12's in the 1/4 (12.6-12.7, to be more precise). It's not stripped or tubbed, and it's his daily driver. Of course they don't all run this well, but they can.
Carry on.
hey I never thought of that
ok fine call me a r<x>ice boy
Originally posted by rx7speed
maybe not here in the US but then again there aren't that many fast imports over in japan... and they prolly think our cars suck as well...
maybe not here in the US but then again there aren't that many fast imports over in japan... and they prolly think our cars suck as well...
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Originally posted by 383backinblack
so they went out to the street and set up a porta tree and ran times?
so they went out to the street and set up a porta tree and ran times?
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Originally posted by rx7speed
why would they need a porta tree???
why would they need a porta tree???
so if your talking about all the cars you see around......and you say they are all 10 sec cars...you have no evidence to back that up.
unless there was some kind of timing involved.....hence the porta tree comment
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