what do these hunks of crap run from the factory? some cocky *** with a 91 5.slow POS thinks he can hang with my 350, I'd very much like to school him hardcore. I've walked buslengths on a '94 5.0 and an '88 5.0, both were 5-speeds. This '91 is a 5.piece of **** is a 5-speed, he keeps talkin **** about how he smokes 5.7 TPIs all the time. My personal best has been a 14.6, I've read pieces can run from a 14.7-15.8 depending on the driver and options. Anyone else have experience. 215 HP is pretty close to what 350s are putting to the ground, maybe 15 HP off, and these cars are torqueless! only a 100-200 lbs lighter for the hatchbacks. What has been everyone elses experience?

 

My experience is that you're way more cocky than your car is fast. He sounds cocky, too. If you're so damned confident why are you in here? Just go race him and find out

Chris

 

Just figuring out what the 90s fox bodies runs. I have no doubts he'll be buslengths behind like the others, but double checking. I personally fell victim to similar situations against my buddies 92 formula 350. he said speed density/twin cat was a bit faster, didn't buy it, ran him, lost, my nose at this rear quarter panel. We were both stock. But yeah, I'm running his *** this weekend, should be good, probably won't be. it's bone stock for crying out loud!

 

14.6.. looks like you need to stop yellin... most 5.0's i see run 14.0-14.5... Its a drivers race, as it has been since 87 when they (finaly) dropped the 350 in the fbody. Hope he doesnt have any mods, cause thoes 5.0's respond very well to mods. and from the looks of your car, your very stock. I would start to really get your times down into the lower half of 14's. If both cars are stock.. .its gunna come down to whos got the bigger mouth... I am not flamming, and i do not like 5.0's as much as i dont like imports. Race him and find out who gets shut up. Post results too.. i wana see who wins.

 

91 GT 5.0 will be in the 14.4-14.8 range depending on options - assuming good driver/condition.

If I were forced to bet, I'd bet on you, but only because you've already run 14.6s which means your a capable driver with car that is not in bad tune, which I can't say for the 5.0 driver.

If I were to race you with my ol' stocker, I'd bet on me, but that's because I've put my share of mid 14 second 350s and LT1s away at the dragstrip.

Chris

 

I have beaten my fair share of 5.0's and 4.6 stangs, but i have also lost to more

most around here are usually modded and pretty quick.

good luck in the race..

 

 

I agree with what the others said....If your best is a 14.6, and he is stock, this should be a very close race.

 

 

Awfully confident for a mid/high 14 second car aren't we ?

I've seen STOCK Fox bodies that would literally buslength you.

It should be a good race though. And if he has any mods whatsoever (even small stuff), and can at least drive half-assed, you can kiss your *** goodbye. "5.slow's" are very capable cars, and they do make good torque BTW...

 

First off very nice attitude about a car just as fast as yours!

Second a 5.0 will run mid 14s stock if driven well. The 350 L98 verse the 5.0 was great competition. With your time already posted it should be a good run, unless he is modded. A modded 5.0 is a 13 second contendor without any issues!

I dont know who will win the race, but with an attitude like that and only a 14.6 you are asking for trouble, IMO.

 

Dude you are way too cocky, my best time so far is also a 14.6 but I still act like I have a 15 second car because if i get too cocky Im gonna end up gettin my *** beat(literally)...Yes most of us prefer fbodies over the stangs but thats because this is a fbody website. I have the uptmost respect for stangs and any other car that is fast whether it be import or domestic, 99% of imports arent fast so you dont need to worry about those...but Im sure my 6'4 300lb buddy with a street driven 10sec lx wouldnt mind handing you your ***...your car isn't fast enough to be as cocky as you are, 14s by todays standards isnt that fast.

 

Thats a huge bitch..... plus that totaly destroys what hes tryin to say here... Im sure there have been plenty of modded fbodies that have shown that guy what its like to be on the receiving end of a killer small block.

Back to the thread..... Go race the dam stang... you talk a lot, so back yourself up. Better come back with a win, or its time to tone yourself down. Its always good to see stock for stock to butt heads and see which car is still king after all these years.

 

I respect 5.0 Mustangs. They're quick stock and with a few mods can be very quick. I wouldn't go calling them 5.slows. They have 300lb/ft torque stock so I wouldn't call them "torqueless." Plus they are lighter than F bodies. A member here posted an article about an '87 LX 5.0 that ran 13.9 in the 1/4 with increased timing, tire pressure adjustments and a few test runs at the track. Would you call that stock LX a 5.slow?? BTW, just race the kid and see what happens.

 

yea dude your to cocky..a 14.6 is a good time for a stocker, but your setting yourself up for a let down...

i have a 91 gta lb9 t-5 g92 and i woul dof loved to be the one to quite you down...
my mods are a flowmaster k&n and some minor plenum porting
i run consistan 14.2-3 but my best is a 14.1@96

i have a quick car but im not cocky...around every corner is a car that shut u down faster then u can say "WTF was that?"...

go out and race him...hope hes stock or cant drive...its a driver race as it alwasy was between both 5.0's and the l98....either car g92 lb9...the l98 and the ho302 could win any 3 way race out there stock for stock...
ive beat stock lx's and l98 formulas..and ive lost to the same cars..

have fun and bring in another win for the bowtie!!!

 

 

if he's a good driver he'll run a 14.7, I'm yet to lose to a 5.0 mostly because I am careful about the races I pick lol. His car is bone stock. and where'd you get 300 ft. lbs? I've always read 280 ft. lbs for the 5.0, and it's completely irrelevant to tell me what a modded 5.0 can run, I'm sure there are plenty of people with modded 3rd gens here that run damned fast. I don't get why everyone thinks I'm cocky? He is the one saying he's smoked 5.7 TPIs right and left and that he could walk on any 3rd Gen, I'm just venting here. My car is slow as ****, as are 5.0s for that matter. and saying 99% of imports is slow... that's not cocky, how do you figure? I'd get my *** handed by any stock TT Supra, RX-7, 3000GT or 300ZX with a good driver and those car mop up stangs right and left modded and stock but whatever, including your 300 lb friends 10 second LX, but that car is far from stock so what the hell is your point? oh you don't have one, n/m what do you run? I'm running him this weekend should be good.

 

Check out mustanggt.org. The 1991 5.0 puts out 225 HP/300 TQ.

 

Dude, regardless of all the opinions of everyone in the world about I've seen this, or I've watched that do this.... Gimme a break, whatever happened to "street racing"??!! Hell I had two races tonight just driving around. If you pull up next to someone, guess what?...on the street you have no clue what the other guy has or what he runs. Just race the damn thing and see what happens. Ok so a stock 5.0 is supposed to run this and a stock 5.7 is supposed run that...who cares every car is different and I think the times on this board prove that. As is everyone's version of "stock". Win or lose street racing is a blast, so just freakin do it and let us know who wins...

 

Well seeing as that a stock 5.0 I personally know of put down 212 rwhp and 276 rwtq, I think the numbers you found are a little off.

I dont mind competition but when you are bashing on a car that is just as fast as yours you are acting stupid. A 5.0 is not slow, if it will run the same times you are pulling. And the best part is when you mod you dont need to touch the motor until you are in the 12s! Very nice IMO!

 

I think you should be prepared for a close race, and stop running your mouth

 

I hope the mustang rapes you.




I'd take a fox over a fbod though............
just look at the facts

 

I will never EVER take word for word anything that comes from a stang site. Lets not bring up the 99 Cobra fiasco and the new 03 cobra... lets say Ford is usualy a little over zealous on the HP/Torq. ratings. Race this POS and come back with a win for the home team. Weekend it to far away.. this is gunna get locked before that happens. I think you got a good chance...

 

I think almost all the 5.0's from 87-93 (?) were rated at 225HP/300TQ.

 

My cousin raced a 5.0 with me in the car, an igloo cooler full of ice and Mountain Dew.... My cousin had a '88 Trans Am GTA... Took the Mustang, 88-90ish body style without too much trouble.

Oh yeah, one more thing, we were also towing a 850cc Dirtbike on a bike trailer hitched to the GTA as well... Since then, mustangs have warranted little if no respect from me.

No ****, it really happened like that.

 

good kill man! kinda object to the trailor hitch, but to each its own.

 

Yeah he just had it to tow his dirtbike. Not a very big deal. I have a small boat I tow with my car every once in a while.

 

Stock vs. stock I think the late 80's LX 5.0's were a little bit quicker than the 5.7 GTA's. But most of the time on the street it would be a driver's race. Speaking of GTA's I absolutely annihilated one in my '79 Camaro (junkyard 400sbc). My Camaro ran mid-high 13's. Then again, I smoked a late 80's LX 5.0 also!

 

Crispy Clutch if he had an auto and it was beat I might be able to see that but otherwise there is more to that story.

bigals87z28, the 99s did have issues but the 03 Cobras are underrated beyond belief. Thye are putting down anywhere from 355-390 rwhp stock, so Ford did do it right this time.

As far as no respect for the 5.0s how can you not respect a car that with stock parts or mild bolt-ons will wipe the floor with the L98 with similar mods. You put a full exhaust, gears, and drah radials on both and watch the Mustang pull near 12s, and the L98 is barely running mid to high 13s! I'm not ******* on the F-bodies (I like them alot too) but how can you show little to no respect for a car just as fast, if not faster than yours, with more potential!

 

Ever notice that ignorance and cockiness are directly proportional?

 

I agree with 5.0mustang and Nic 100%. They are right on this one. The ignorance of some people on this board is terrible.
:hail: GM
Nope, there is more then one car company

 

Just as long as I don't start seeing

:hail: Honda

then this board is still cool with me

 

ok.. dont wana get off the subject of calling this guy ignorant, but your saying that the 03 cobra is putting 355-390 at the wheels right? and what do they run... mid 12's? So lets see... A stock LS1 puts out 315-320 to the ground and CAN run high 12's. so your saying that with a little exhaust work, intake, and gear swap to run 12's.. your saying all that work gave them an extra 40-70hp?.... I really think that the 390hp is a little high. I think thoes ratings you posted are a little high... they probably gressed the bearings on the dyno while running the car. I know the new 03's are fast, but 390 at the wheels is a little far fetched.. maybe with 20-25lbs of boost. anyway... Kick this 5.0's @$$ so all this can end. Good luck and wipe the floor with that 5.0. Cant wait to get back on the road and start killin 5.0's and 4.6's...

 

When I said 99% of imports I was referring to the hondas, eclipses, the normal r!ce stuff. how many TT supras, Turbo Rx7s, vr4 300gts, or tt 300zs do you see every day? I would say that out of all the imports you are lucky if 1% you see in a day are any of those cars. And you are cocky, I know my buddies 10sec lx is far from stock, but I was just usin him as an example, there is no reason at all for you to be referring to them as 5.slows, with a good driver and bolt ons these cars have a lot more potential than l98s, and I also already told you my best time is 14.6 also, I still think my car is slow, and don't go around disrespecting other people and their cars because I have a 14 sec timeslip which imo isnt very impressive.

 

HA the 302 has more what then a 350? my friend, the 350 is the most widly used engine in the world. 350's will always be stronger then 302's. 10k in a l98 fbody and 10k in a stang.. if they weight the same, i say the fbody comes out on top.

 

bigal you need to get your facts right buddy. A carbed 350 is better but when we talk about fuel injection the 5.0 is a much better motor merely because of the strong aftermarket. with the same combo I have ($250 for intake and Tbody, $150 for RRs) add a Mass Air Meter, and $600 heads and you have an easy mid 12 second car. How do I know, my dad is doing this with his car as we speak, picking up the Explorer heads today!

I am sorry but over $500 for a TPI intake is a total joke, and those are the cheap ones. Plus the exhaust components are twice as expensive and the Mustangs suspensions in stock form are very good for racing!

Put $10,000 in both a fuel injected L98 and a fuel injected 5.0 and I hate to break the news, but the 5.0 will walk away with it!

 

Put $10,000 into either motor and if you're not running making enough power to run 9's then you're doing something wrong.

 

 

That's what 5.slow POS ran Bone stock. It's automatic too. I'd imagine i would have been quicker with a 5-spd.

Of course my hunk of crap isn't stock anymore.



C'mon, we have this SAME EXACT thread 5 time a week. The majority agree than a 350 F-bod and a 302 Mustang 5-spd (some AOD's too) will run neck and neck and it can go either way any race. Then we get the loyalists who will swear up and down that nothing can beat brand X car. So let's grow up, open your minds and shut the hell up. You findone being cocky about their car, then beat the driver but you still gotta respect what the car can do.

Like i've said before. The cocky driver's are the ones compensating for slower cars. It's the modest driver's you need to watch out for. You'll see

 

i know you Mustang guys arent all that familiar with the GM options and all (i know your still learning), but just to set the racord straight, a L98 will run neck and neck with a similarly modded 5.0 Stang. you see, the L98 was only offered in one GM platform... the Corvette. all fbodies got an iron headed, restricted exhaust version called B2L. go look on any 3rd gen option sheet and you WILL NOT find L98 anywhere.

heres the formula for going 12s in a L98:
- flowmaster catback ($350)
- MAD front ypipe ($200)
- K&N filter w cut lid ($50)
- BFGoodrich drag radials ($325)
- GM 2500 stall converter ($200)
total cost - $1125

once again... mod for mod... an L98 will run right with (or pass) a 5.0

 

tpivette, you are right but an L98 Fbody will not.

Put that similar recipe to the Mustang
-Flowmaster cat-back (250)
-Off Road H-pipe (150)
-Headers (160)
-Pulleys (80)
-BFGoodrich Drag Radials (325)
-FMS 4.10 gears (150)
Total (1115)

And that can put you 12.9s all day!

I'm not ******* on the L98 (especially the Vette L98) just proving the 5.0s capabilities!

 

AGAIN there is no such thing. L98s only came in Vettes. the correct term is B2L fbody
i thought we were talking mod for mod? a L98 doesnt need these extra mods to run 12s. a L98 car with a mod list like the one you posted would be an easy mid 12 second ride

 

trying to do this mod to mod comparison is stupid, really. i will agree 100% that a SBC can be made to go very fast as well as a SBF. a "B2L" fbody is a great car, but your flat out stupid not to acknowledge a fox body stang as a great performance car also.

 

I agree.

 

that woulda been enough for me to set up a date and hope to shut his *** up. enough talk and go race. we're all eager to find out what happens.

 

im not sure why you think its not a good comparison to do a mod for mod shootout. take 2 different cars, do the exact same things to them, and which one is faster? i think its a good way to gauge the potential of a platform
just who exactly are you naming to be "flat out stupid". so if someone doesnt like a particular car, for whatever reason, they are the most braindead person on the planet huh?

 

TPI is my kind of man! SMOKE THAT 5.0!! TPI cars respond to different types of mods then 5.0's do. See, if GM still made the 302, this would of been cooler, cause they we could see which is better (we all know Chevy's would be) Tpi has many flaws for FI. and an intake for 600? try out the lt1 intake for around 400, and you got great FI set up. It comes down to that since 87, Fbodies have been running 5.0's... and this went all the way to 2002. Go smoke this guy so we can see who wins this little online flare up.

 

Because different cars respond different mods differently. The first mod you do to a 1991 Mitsu Eclipse GSX is not the same first mod you do to a 1989 Corvette or a 2001 Camaro SS. See? These are "big differece" examples, but they get the point across. I can see why you think it's a good way to gauge the potential because the V8 fuel injected Mustang is in a very close category (if not the same) as a L98 Corvette. I don't know a whole lot about Mustangs, but a very popular mod seems to be gears. That mod doesn't seem as popular for the vette, does this mean you should say, "Ha, the mustang needs gears to do............."
And let's just say you do a mod by mod thing with a B2L Camaro and a 5.0L 5 speed Mustang. The Mustang mods are cheaper (in general) so exhaust and simple intake parts are cheaper. Point goes to the Mustang in my opinion.


Did you read what I typed? Here it is again.


In my opinion if anybody does not acknowledge the 5.0L Fox body Mustang as a great performance car they are stupid. I'm not saying your in that category (although you sound like you could be) I'm just saying they're a great performance car (more popular in 1/4 mile drag form).

 

I think it's time for my pic

 

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