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Old Oct 13, 2003 | 10:24 AM
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Car: 92Z28, 99SS, 83Z28 & 86GTA
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Axle/Gears: 4:10, 3:42, 2:73 & 3:27
92Z28 vs 97Z28

I got a guy wanting to race me in his 97 Z28 just wondering if u guys think I can take him or not. He has a LT1 with Cold Air, 6-Speed, cut-out and I think 3:73 gears.
Copy of his Dyno sheet http://members.rogers.com/yacko/DCP02280.JPG

He has 275.3 RWHP and 308.0 RWTQ

I am told his best 1/4 is 13.8 but thats word of mouth. U think I got him?
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Old Oct 13, 2003 | 11:24 AM
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If he dynoed that and is only running 13.8, then he isn't that good of a driver. You should be him.

When my 96 WS6 dynoed at 274rwhp and 305rwtq, I ran 13.18@104.9 on a 1.87. Mods were K&N, 160 thermo, air foil, HPP+, 4.10 gears. Without the gears and HPP+, I ran 13.50@103.9 on a 2.0. All runs were on GSC's.

Unless he gets some traction and shifts, you got him.
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Old Oct 13, 2003 | 05:40 PM
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What all do you have done to your motor / car ? 400 rw tq with a TB foil............... um........sure ! What else you got in there?
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Old Oct 13, 2003 | 05:50 PM
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From: Arthur, Ontario, Canada
Car: 92Z28, 99SS, 83Z28 & 86GTA
Engine: 421, LS1, 327Turbo & 383
Transmission: T-56, 4L60E, T5 & 4L60
Axle/Gears: 4:10, 3:42, 2:73 & 3:27
Well, the TPI is all thats stock Gunna upgrade that this winter I hope.

383 Stroker with 9:1 compression set up for boost, just dont have the ATI on it.

AFR 190cc heads and small XE256H cam. Gunna upgrade the cam this winter also.

1.6 Pro Magnum RR's and SLP 1 3/4 headers and Dynomax cat back.

Stock T-5 with 3:42's in the rear.
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Old Oct 14, 2003 | 12:47 PM
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With all that stuff, you should smoke him
Then again it seems his numbers and his times don't match
Go for it and keep us updated
Good Luck
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Old Oct 14, 2003 | 07:51 PM
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From: Arthur, Ontario, Canada
Car: 92Z28, 99SS, 83Z28 & 86GTA
Engine: 421, LS1, 327Turbo & 383
Transmission: T-56, 4L60E, T5 & 4L60
Axle/Gears: 4:10, 3:42, 2:73 & 3:27
Ya I am pretty sure I got him I'll let ya's know what happened after the races.
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Old Oct 15, 2003 | 05:45 PM
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I think it is going to be close. You have the torque to get him off the line but I think he is going to catch up really quick judging by how fast your power falls after 3500rpm. That LT1 has a flatter power curve and should catch up once that TPI is choked out. Upgrade your plenum and runners and you will have a deamon there.
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Old Oct 16, 2003 | 05:01 PM
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From: Arthur, Ontario, Canada
Car: 92Z28, 99SS, 83Z28 & 86GTA
Engine: 421, LS1, 327Turbo & 383
Transmission: T-56, 4L60E, T5 & 4L60
Axle/Gears: 4:10, 3:42, 2:73 & 3:27
Well we are gunna find out this SUNDAY, should be fun

I also got a rematch against an 97 SS I killed 3 times in a row (his best was a 14.7 :P ) and a 89 GTA too on Sunday.

Also got called out by a 1998 Black WS6 TA M6 with Dyno: 314 RWHP / 330 RWTQ Best ET: 13.551 @ 106.12 (2.18 60')
Should be a good one. He got me last time, that was his 13.5, I ran a 13.7, I had him till the end, darn LS1 power

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Old Oct 19, 2003 | 07:40 PM
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From: Arthur, Ontario, Canada
Car: 92Z28, 99SS, 83Z28 & 86GTA
Engine: 421, LS1, 327Turbo & 383
Transmission: T-56, 4L60E, T5 & 4L60
Axle/Gears: 4:10, 3:42, 2:73 & 3:27
Well I beat all 4 of them today


Best was beating the WS6 LS1 I got him buy 0.004

R/T
.509 .992
2.130 2.239
5.816 6.037
8.845 9.011
81.49mph
13.547 13.551
104.13mph 108.19mph

Against the WS6

As for the 97LT1, well ..... I killed him
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Old Oct 20, 2003 | 10:26 AM
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From: Arthur, Ontario, Canada
Car: 92Z28, 99SS, 83Z28 & 86GTA
Engine: 421, LS1, 327Turbo & 383
Transmission: T-56, 4L60E, T5 & 4L60
Axle/Gears: 4:10, 3:42, 2:73 & 3:27
Oh and I do have a video of me and the LT1 racing but I got no clue how to add it on here.
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Old Oct 20, 2003 | 11:29 AM
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Good kills and nice reaction time! Its always nice to beat up on a 4th gen or two.
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Old Oct 20, 2003 | 07:29 PM
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From: Arthur, Ontario, Canada
Car: 92Z28, 99SS, 83Z28 & 86GTA
Engine: 421, LS1, 327Turbo & 383
Transmission: T-56, 4L60E, T5 & 4L60
Axle/Gears: 4:10, 3:42, 2:73 & 3:27
Thanx m8

http://members.rogers.com/yacko/HawkvsMark.mpg

let me know if the video dont work, ty
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Old Oct 21, 2003 | 09:01 AM
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Car: '90 RS
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You like you are right at stock LS1 territory now. Especially edging out that WS6. That video aslo looks like how LS1 cars run against LT1's. About a half second ahead. Good job man, but fear the modded LS1
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Old Oct 21, 2003 | 11:32 AM
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very nice! congrats on the wins,.
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Old Oct 23, 2003 | 01:56 PM
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Good kills, man. Man wait till you get a stealram/SR/MR and a cam about the size of the XE 288 you're going to get about 100rwhp more. With those cubes go at least 230 dur on the int. side. Those heads will love it.
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Old Oct 24, 2003 | 08:32 AM
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From: Arthur, Ontario, Canada
Car: 92Z28, 99SS, 83Z28 & 86GTA
Engine: 421, LS1, 327Turbo & 383
Transmission: T-56, 4L60E, T5 & 4L60
Axle/Gears: 4:10, 3:42, 2:73 & 3:27
Thanx guy's.

Kool, I was planning on goung with the miniram and charging it origanaly hence the low compression.

New intake/cam setup would of been on this winter but I kinda blew my trany at the track. Limped home with only 5th so now my clutch is screwed too. U'd be amazed how many peeps wanted to race me on the way home, its like they knew I was limping and couldnt race.

On a good note she got me home and no tow truck bill.

So thinking Tremec TKO or that G-Force rebuild kit next. Might still have enuff $ left over for the new intake/cam.

Oh and both the LT1 and the LS1 are modded car's. Just some bolt on's, but not 100% stock either. So that makes me feel good.
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Old Oct 24, 2003 | 08:56 AM
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I would say pull that T56 out of your 96!! Good kill's man.
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Old Oct 24, 2003 | 10:38 AM
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Originally posted by camarojoe
Good kills, man. Man wait till you get a stealram/SR/MR and a cam about the size of the XE 288 you're going to get about 100rwhp more. With those cubes go at least 230 dur on the int. side. Those heads will love it.
He hit it on the head. Even if you keep your current cam the miniram will retian your low end numbers and make your high end numbers scream. That TPI is choking that beast. keep the heads and cam for now and just convert to a miniram. Your dyno sheet will completely change and your power curve should be as flat as kansas.
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