Aight i have 91 Z so i love third gens so im not insultin.. Im a lover for the third gens... Anways my friend Jason owns a 90-92 camaro V6 and told me it produced 135 to 140 hp... Now he sayin he can deff be my Jeep.. But im not sure of that cuz my jeep has 190-200 hp and only weighs 2200lbs. So i hav the HP and weight over him... But his has better handlin.. lower.... ANd JEEP isnt meant for racing... But i hit easily over 90 on the highway witout tipping over... I think his v6 is rwd and doesnt hav posi i think.... SO i mean i think i do hav chance because my jeep can pick very quick due to its lightness. I dunno i got spanked the other night on RT 1 on the Automile agianst my cuzins 2002 Mercedes SLK in my Jeep... But i think my Jeep can take him at first but after 80 i think he can win... So who do u think will win?? i guess u guys would pick the Cam.


Also i have a 4.0 inline 6 standard shift, he has a auto V6 3.1 i belive

 

3.07 or 3.73 gears?

My 02 with 3.73 and posi traps 85mph all day long...anywhere from 15.8-16.2 depending on traction. I dont think a 3.1 V6 could touch that stock...

 

Honestly man i have no idea what im running for gears.. But i have to find out i guess... I think i still can take him out even my Jeep doesnt have good handling for fast speeds, and was never meant to be either

 

Anyone that would race a jeep has an ego problem! Better save it for the mud before you hurt yourself! 90% of accidents in a jeep result in death. If you don't get thrown from it, the'll be picking body parts out of the cracks..

 

Anyone that would race a jeep has an ego problem! Better save it for the mud before you hurt yourself! 90% of accidents in a jeep result in death. If you don't get thrown from it, the'll be picking body parts out of the cracks..


THE FASTEST i hav been in my JEEP was 92- or 94 mph on RT 1 Norwood.... I kno im a lil bit on the crazzy side... but hey im stupid.. Yeah i kno mostly jeeps do cause deaths... I only raced once wit it and we were goin only up to 70mph and blew my doors in his Mercedes slk... But hey jeep is a fun off road caR! ur rite i should be savin it for some mud

 

Are you talking about a 1/4 mile drag or top speed race man? Be more specific. You will spank him in a 4 liter jeep in the 1/4. They give some worn 305 TPI's trouble. If your talkin about a high speed race like 60- 120 I have no clue but I'll still put my money on the jeep.

P.S. Stay away from turns or any sudden movements at 60+ in that thing!

 

Are you talking about a 1/4 mile drag or top speed race man? Be more specific. You will spank him in a 4 liter jeep in the 1/4. They give some worn 305 TPI's trouble. If your talkin about a high speed race like 60- 120 I have no clue but I'll still put my money on the jeep.


lol man yeah a straight 1/4 mile.. hell no i wouldnt do any turnin i aint that crazzy, but yeah i think i can spank him just in a 1/4 but after that hell beat me at top speed i think

 

well Before I lifted my cherokee, I beat an 84 TA with rebuilt l69 and 700r. I have a 4.0 and 3.55 gears in it, and well i took him off the line until about 60 or so. You will win no prob.

 

Where is this 90% figure coming from? TJ's have an excellent crash rating, much safer than thirdgens with their 4 point (with supporting brace, so somewhat 6 point) rollcages and full ladder box frame construction. People still have it stuck in their minds that Jeeps tip easily because before 1987 they didnt install swaybars and morons driving them on the street flipped them And an ego problem? why because it's faster than a L03/auto thirdgen?

 

You think your safer crashing a jeep rather than your IROC? Go crash one! BTW who cares about the first 60ft anyway? First one to the line WINS! Oh, you must have been talking about a bone stock Lo3 auto. Put a 3" cat back, and Tbi mod's, and the jeep looses! Get real! You just want to get on here and bash on people you disagree with, or what? I'm just trying to help keep people from getting hurt crashing vehicles by driving them in a way their not intended to be. And nothing more. Nick418 even thinks he's a little crazy! But at least he agree's with me!
MODERATE DON'T AGITATE.

 

You just want to get on here and bash on people you disagree with, or what? I'm just trying to help keep people from getting hurt crashing vehicles by driving them in a way their not intended to be. And nothing more. Nick418 even thinks he's a little crazy! But at least he agree's with me!

wait u think im bashing on ppl?? huh?? I was just gettin ppls opinions....... On 2004 195hp Wrangler 4.0 6cyl wit POsi must i add, agianst a early 90s maro wit like 135 to140hp .... I want to hear what ppl though bought it..... I kno jeep isnt safe for fast speeeds but im nuts! I went 70 in a 30 today in the maro! The cops werent there but ppl have my number plate down from what im hearin all ready...I don care..... i prob go 95 down the same street tom..... Nah dont want the mileage on it (14,043 org miles)

 

If you want people to stop getting hurt by crashing vehicles, get in every single thread on this forum and tell everyone that. I would feel 10 times safer in my TJ in a crash than my IROC. The Jeep and the IROC weigh similar numbers (Jeep: 3420lbs IROC: 3205lbs) but the Jeep has a body on ladder-box frame construction which is MUCH stronger than a unibody car (IE thirdgens). Also sitting higher up puts you at less risk at getting impacted in the upper body during a crash.
I know L03's, I owned one before. Even with a 3" catback and free TBI mods a 2.73 auto L03 will lose to a TJ with the 4.0L and 3.73 gears all day long through 60' and the whole 1/4. The L03 with those mods will not trap 85mph, which is what the TJ will do bone stock.
I 4x4 my Jeep, I dont race it, but I have raced it before. There is nothing unsafe about hitting 85mph in a Jeep at the track. Hitting 85mph on the street is dangerous in ANY car.

 

(Jeep: 3420lbs IROC: 3205lbs)


my jeep only weighs 2,200 Lbs

 

If you've ever turned around to help a guy that has just wrecked his vehicle you've raced, (wich I have) you'll change that attitude!
It's not pretty and it makes you sick to your stomach. I used to race everything on the street! back in the 70's. I also witnessed several wrecks, lost my licence, spent time in jail, and forked over so much money to the state of Az, I had to leave the state!
Needless to say, I NO longer race on the street and when I do race, it's at a sanctioned track or autocross event. I only hope you guys don't have to find out the hard way like I did! I don't know what my trap speed would be on a 1/4mi track because we only have an 1/8 strip in Chandler In. I ran my 88 LO3, 700-R4 twice before I broke the trans. mount. Best time was 2.36 60ft. 9.72 at 76 mph. My launch tech. is shallow stage, from dead idle to the floor on the last yellow light. I drive around the water box, short burn-out and roll straight to the stage line. I shift at 5500 to second and finish at 4800rpm in second. I flash stall the conv. not power brake because when I did that on the first run the 60 ft. time was 2.54, and my et was 9.88. I used 245-50-16 street tires w/no tire spin on a preped track, after sundown on a test and tune night. I don't know any formulas for 1/8 to 1/4mi est. time, but I think I can get more than 9mph out of it in the last 1/8mi. As I see it, that beats a 4.0 jeep! What gives? I only have a cat back, open elem.(that I remove during race) 6* adv. with 93 oct. Accel cap, rotor, 8mm wires, and a wagner fuel pump with 13 1/2 lbs pressure (last time I checked).
Not sure what chip is in it, but I bought the car used for 2,000 bucks w/128,000 on it and have only put 10,000 on it in 3 1/2yrs.
Maybe I need to travel to a 1/4 mi track and see what it will do in the 1/4. I'm not really interested in drag anymore, mostly I run auto-x's and cruise with the wife to cruise in's with the T's out!

 

My 88 weigh's 3233 w/1/4 tank.

 

yeah but i have weight, transmission, gears, HP, torque advantage over him.... THose are some of the main things to look for a race

 

We need a grudge match don't we? Sounds close! Oh yeah, the cat is gutted also. Don't know if that figures into the equation, but that's the way it came when I bought it.

 

Are you sure man? Have you weighed it on a scale? I weighed mine without me in it on a truck scale and it tipped in at 3420lbs with nothing in the interior.


I ran my Jeep once at the track (I dont race on the street; it's just way too risky) and it hit 85mph bone stock. I'm sure if I put an aftermarket air intake system (stock system is a tiny 2" diameter hole where the air is sucked in through the filter then it travels down a 2.5" tube to the throttle body; extremely restrictive), a cat back system (2" cat 2" piping stock) and played with the timing I might be able to squeeze some 90mph trap speeds. But, I dont have the time or money to play with the Jeep since I put all my time and money into my IROC.

 

yeah it weighs 2,200 not includin me (145lbs) But yeah i hit easy 94 mph on RT 1, hey your JEEP sounds pretty sweet got pics?

 

Mine is a JEEP WRANGLER SPORT the thing weighs nothing

 

i bet my 3.1 v6 camaro could take that jeep

 

hehe whats ur specs and mods?

 

3.1L V6 with a T-5 5 speed
Hurst short throw
PF@E headers
3inch exhuast witha deadbird muffler
hypertech chip
underdrive crank and alt pulley
K&N filter
Perfomance plugs and wires
no emissions
SLP Posi/3:42 Gears

just your basic v6 mods.....for now.....waiting on the turbo set up before i do anything else extreme

 

0-60 i have confidence...... After 65 ur all set you would win... My Jeep is wicked slow after it hits 70

 

id really like to run that...after the race i had this weekend my jump off the line is insanely quick, would be a good race. my car doesnt way much either with the fiberglass hood and the trans swap took a lot of weight off as well. i can only imagine what my car will do on a clutch that isnt completly used. that mazda mx6 didnt even come close