we raced 3 times the first time i spun bad and lost. The second time i launched perfect, and got him upto about 120 by a whole car. the third time was much closer i beat him by a fender at about 100. I got his *** the whole way.

The mods i got are stock runners ported, gasketmatched porting, msd system, coolant bypass and heat wrapped flex tube into the mouth of the throttle body, BBk 58ml throttle body, 22lb 91 vet injectors and a aftermarket fuel pressure megulator. Oh and i got no cats and flowmaster.

 

A 96 Trans am? What kind of quarter mile times are you running? Those cars are good For high 13's with a good enough driver.

 

I don't think a 305 tpi needs a 58 mm t/b, the stock ones run about 48 mm?? and they are good for a 350 tpi running over 300 at the crank. btw, really good runs if you're taking a 96 t/a with your 305 tpi.

 

The guy in the TA should hand over his keys for not being able to drive. You got very lucky. Any 305 car is no match for an LT1 car. I have never lost to a heads and cammed 305 car in my bone stock 95 M6 Z. Also, your 58mm TB is overkill to say the least. There are 600hp 396 LT1's out there that will lose power with one.

 

could it have been a v6?

 

why do people keep posting up retarded posts. Nobody thinks your cool becuase you say your 305 beats lt1's. Nobody believes it either. The only way you would have beat him, ESPECIALLY UP TOP, was if he forgot to shift, or his sparkplugs blew out the side of the motor. My 96 formula with just headers and duals stomped my buddies 305 stroker (i forget the displacement, i wanted nothing to do with that stupid *** project). and no matter how hard you want to think it does, 99.9% of all the mods youve done add 0-1 hp.

 

Errrr! Wrong try again my friend, I have seen 305 TPIs in low 12s. But yes it does take alot of work.

 

305s do have potential as any and every car does, but with minor bolt ons and some porting, I dont see it running with an LT1 especially up top! Bad drivers can account for things like this, so I wont call BS, just seems like the race went in the wrong direction!

 

these arguments always go no where. it takes an extreme **** ton of work like n2o or FI. it has no where near the potential of an l98 or better.

but whatever, the dude with the 305 wasn probably a better driver then the lt1, or the lt1 had his AC on

 

I think putting up some video proof would show that it is possible, just not probable. Once again, most likely the lt1 missed a shift, and couldn't drive too well, may have been nervous or something. But, it is possible, so no bs should be said yet.

 

you dont need video, anything can be made fast if u have enough time, dedication and money. How do u think import tuners get those tiny 4 banger engines making maybe 120 hp to get into 13-12s?

 

Its one thing if he just said his 305 beat one, but he listed mods, and with the mods listed he should not have run with the LT1. This is why people are saying what they are saying. Yes 305s can and do run with LT1s, but what has to be done to them is a lot more than the original poster had on his car! Unless bad driving, which I satted before!

Thats my take on it.

 

Yeah what GTA_fan said, possible but not probable. There are some LB9 5spd cars turing some pretty good times, mid 14's or better with boltons and I've seen more than one LT1 running 15's.

But honestly dude, 58mm TB and 22 lb injectors? More than a little excessive on an otherwise stock 305. I'm running a 52mm TB on the 350 in my '88 and it made virtually no difference over the stocker.

 

A stock 96 transam runs high 13's or 14.0 flat. If you were racing on a sanctioned qtr mile track you never even came close to 120mph. You wouldnt have even reached 98mph. with that 305 setup. Even on the street at 120mph you would have seen him waving at you. This guy in the transam was hustling you for another run at some point were you would put up some serious cash and lose it all....I suppose anything is possible. Hell, I can walk on water (frozen of course).

 

damn, you read it all wrong. I said possible, not probable. And yes, what you said is completely true about 305's, but i was reffering to HIS 305 which in mine and other's opinions had mods that usually wouldn't be enough to run with an LT1. And the video would be nice just to see what actually happened, I'm not saying i don't believe it. The video would just tell us if the driver missed a gear or whatever. And thanks for the rolling eyes, appreciate it. Our corolla has around 120 hp and it's lightweight with a 4 banger and it sure as hell doesn't run 12's or 13's or 14's or 15's or 16's. I think you would need upwards of 200 or 240 to do that wouldn't you?? Now that i have explained myself for why you put the rolling eyes, i hope you find that they are no longer necassary.

 

i can run with and beat lt1's and i have a 305 just thought i would share. lol.

 

It can be done. It is hard with the stock TPI induction. Not to say that a stock induction heads and cammed 305 TPI cannot hold its own from a dig but at 120mph the LT1 would have been so far ahead it wouldn't have been funny. With his mods he maybe has 5 hp more than stock. He either got lucky or the LT1 was not racing.

 

Hold up guys... Ok lets say he has a 305 5-Speed and can shift like a racecar driver. He may be capable of mid 14's right?. And the kid with the t/a has a 6 speed LT1 and shifts ok. I think it would be a pretty nice race honestly. I've never seen a stock LT1 break into the 13's but I know it can be done. LS1 no problem. How do u figure its because It seems to me like a very true story of simply one driver better than the other.

 

P.S.

GBGB wut time of trans u got?

 

I have never seen a stock LT1 break into the 13s at Houston Raceway Park. Ever. This is just like LS1s doing high 12s stock or close to stock (lid/catback). It's going to take cold temps, low humidity, low tire pressure, great driver, etc.

 

i dont see how all you guys think the lt1 is sooooo much faster than a lb9 or l98, gbgb is my buddie and that was my post but i forgot i was under his name. I admit the 58 ml is overkill but i bought it because im gonna puta vortech or a procharger on it. and im sorry but i have raced many lt1's and they arent as fast as many people think. and i dont believe a stock lt1 will be anywhere in the 13's. I live in detroit and every weekend ther are tons of illegal racing spots my friends and i frequent them, and the lt1's arn't that fast sorry A ls1 **** ya there in the low 13 n/p but my car stock gm says it should run 2 tenths slower than a gta so the l98's arnt soo much faster either.Has anyone ever checked the stock tq of a lt1 vs a l98 or lb9 i think they better check b4 they open there mouth again.

 

il post my video of my car racing my 2 friends a 96 modded formula and a 94 t/a versary the formula beat me buy a car and the ta stock with auto i beat him np. will post some time this week

 

Although the L98 may make a touch more peak torque the LT1 will mop its face up with its entire power band. LT1's can and have dipped into the 13's in stock trim. Not to mention that they have a solid 50 more hp than the L98. I would spend a little more time at the track or own one before you try and educate us. I won't question your win but I am also sure the guy was not the best driver out there. I will say it again. I have never lost to any 305 car (inclduing heads and cammed cars) in my stock 95 Z.

 

I see stock lt1s in the 13s all the time.......

 

Yo...just shut up....really man....just shut up. Weren't a problem in my modded 305 TPI (no longer). Your opinion is dumb. I'm moving on to the next topic....really.

 

Too bad we never ran into each other earlier. Anyways.........(think twice)...."in my opinion stock" LT1's can bite the rear of my nicely modded 305 5 spd....impress me and say it was an LS1 champ instead of a "dog-***" auto or 5 spd LT1?!

My last race in my modded 305 tpi vs. modded 350 Olds Hurst ( eee...ehhmmmm stock LT1 killer......) " You got a "305" in that Z?"

Please........I really don't know what kinda lead-sleds ya'll are racing. Later.

 

Keep fighting the good fight. 5 spd LT1? There is no point in arguing anymore. Just go to the track and show me all those slips where you beat LT1 cars by a few lengths.

 

Well I have seen many 6 speed LT1's running crappy around here and other places. I have seen as bad as low 16's here(thats a low 15 at sealevel)to 14.5's(mid 13's sea). It depends on how bad they are running or how good you are.
I am head and cammed(not great heads but doing the job)and I have taken out a few LT1's. Not that they were great but they were just tired engines. They are guys from my local car club that I race. Most of the time I am destroyed but sometimes you get a bone.

 

Do people forget that a stock 5 speed LB9 could run a mid to high 14 pass? Thats not that bad. A modded 5 speed should be able to hang with a stock LT1 at the most.
Sorry to say it but why the bashing on this kid? So what if he beat a LT1, that should be a good thing right? You mod what you got be it a 305, 350 or hell a Iron Duke. If its done right any car can beat another car. Plain and simple.
Stop bashing and open your eyes just a bit sometimes its hard to swallow but you gotta admit its kinda cool to hear other people modding things that no one ever thought could be fast.
Rock on to all you underdogs, that includes third gens as a whole. We are the under dog of the GM world. We are meat for LS1's, LT1's and spat on by the 5.0 crowd. Lets not bash one another for something we never saw just because it sounds too good to be true.
I'll stop babbling now

 

The key is COULD. And an LT1 could run a 13.6-13.7 bone stock as well... I dont see how there is a comparison. Stock vs stock we all know the winner. When mods come into play things get different!

 

Yes could, same goes for the LT1. I never saod stpck Vs Stock. I said a modded 305 5 Speed should be able to hang with a stock LT1. Of course it depends on the mods. Same thing goes for the 6 speed LT1's they COULD run mid 13's to high 13's to hell low 14s. Throw a terrible driver in there and you got a race.

 

Uh, no. And this is coming with a guy who owned a 305 Formula for years. With those mods, the LT1 wasn't racing/had no idea how to drive, or you have a 150shot that you forgot to list.

 

my fastest run to date is a 14.40@98 witha a reaction time of .256 so whatever dude i have no idea why this car is soo fast but for a 305 it sure does supprise alotta people. Oh i also forgot to add my car hangs a 1/2 car behind a ls1 and steady too, up until i shift 4 and then they pull. This is racing my friend witha 2001 ss camaro witha 4.10 gear too.(((IT"S A AUTO))) just so you cant say he dont kno how to shift.

 

Your running 14.4 at 98. the ls1 should rape you. with 410, it should get up quick. i am thinking more like 3 cars than 1/2. Unless he cant launch good

 

I think the guy who posted this one folded a long time ago........Hello?..... gbgh???? HELLO??

 

it was only his second post hes gone or he changed his name to save face.

 

Man, I came across a twin supercharged viper yestrday.... Blew his doors off. 28 cars, I tell ya... 65 CARS!!! L03's ROCK!

 

great kill

but i race a f-16 and i blew his wings off 383 stroker away

 

What does your R/T have to do with your ET?











The answer is nothing if you didn't realize I was being sarcastic.

 

why does everyone think the a/c stays on at WOT? are you that ignorant? look in any service manual. and if you look hard enough you will find guys with v8 s-10 swap that hard wire there a/c on and a few good high rpm runs and the a/c compressor is junk

 

i was at my buds when i posted this i thought i was logged in as me but was'nt. So whatever

 

its a joke. a/c on is a pretty common excuse to hear from someone

 

oh, sorry but I here people say it very seriously alot.

 

its fine.