/\/3\/\/l8l3

What the hell, I thought it was just a stupid teenager trying to rev to my maro, we got at the light and i nailed it lost a little traction, but the guy in the syclone just took off like no ones business, I heard him chirp second pretty bad and I hook real good in second and kept up with him when I got into 3rd I had him by 1 car I let off and he did a fly by

Long story short we stopped and he had oversized turbo/intercooler.....said he had 1.55 0-60 but ran a 12.55 1/4

MrDude_1

umm, yea..

when a car (or truck) has 4wd, and a turbo.. with a automatic... its pretty easy for him to waste 2wd street cars out of the hole... esp on the street.


id be disappointed if he didnt get you by alot... lol

Orr89RocZ

iTrader: (20)

uhhh,,, how fast is your car? to catch a mid 12 second car/truck by 3rd gear, after getting roasted of the line by 2 carlengths would mean your insanely fast. i mean low 11's or so.

MrDude_1

unless the race is longer then 1/4 mile...

Orr89RocZ

iTrader: (20)

well yeah, but think about it LOL

by 3rd gear, and catching a 12 second truck is about 1/4 mile or less. i hit third gear when i ran my car and i am sure that hitting 3rd gear in a 12 second car is about same. this race was about a 1/4 mile then +- a little bit. by 3rd gear, thats roughly 100mph so that again means close to trap speed which means about less than 1/4mile. LOL

i am thinking too much here...

/\/3\/\/l8l3

I have never taken it to the track, but have had oen of those G-Tec things of my friends, we put in the weight as 3750 and it equated to 11.1, i don't think i am THAT fast but I have never lost a race to an 4th gen camaro without being at least 2 cars ahead by the end.

/\/3\/\/l8l3

I blew my old 700-R4 (lasted longer than I ever expected X10) and put in a new one about 6 months ago, and the guy that built it for me suggested a 2500rpm stall converter, and a b&m shift kit and ever since then second gear feels like a rocket, first gear doesn't really feel like it is all there but that rock hard shift into second sends me back in seat smiling

THEGENERAL

what engine do you have and what mods have you done to it to achieve those numbers???

/\/3\/\/l8l3

vortec supercharger, I built the engine according to a car craft project back in 2001 i think? First part was called "Import Killer 454" made like 109hp per liter (they were using marine blower i believe), then they came out with small block issue and I had a friend that wholesales performance car parts pick up everything...we put it together in my shop, but I had him help me since I had never built a High High performance motor...the exact blue prints and specs are at the house and i'm at work

I think I have 7grand in it minus my aluminum block and machine work I traded for. i'm making 455hp 422ftlbs at 5,400rpm running and this was before I really got my fuel problem taken care of. I am still sort of in a break in period only having wracked up 4k miles on the motor so far. I only drive my beast maybe once a week and most of the time thats to a restraunt.

I have lost a lot of interest in her in the recent times due to my fiancial problems and if I could get my investment out of her back i would gladly sell but that isn't happening anytime this decade

THEGENERAL

id say you got a very well built setup there
hows traction in it ?

Orr89RocZ

iTrader: (20)

pretty nice

i have that article. that 454 was up over 700hp. pretty impressive. good combo.

/\/3\/\/l8l3

Traction isn't too bad but if I get taken off the line real bad I seem to put my foot in it too fast and end up spinning a bit, I really want to dyno it now that I have the fuel problem fixed I am also very suprised with gasmileage. 15on highway and 13 in the city But I take it very easy

THEGENERAL

When you get the chance dyno that bad boy ..LOL with the mileage and power you are running i bet its a blast to drive around ...

anondude13

So, it's a blown 454 small block? How much boost are you running? I heard somewhere that the head gaskets are pretty thin on the 454 sbc's and they can't hold much boost, I could be wrong tho.

/\/3\/\/l8l3

No its a 350 w/ standard bore I modeled it after the 454 and the later article on the 350 "import killer" in carcraft.

I started thinking about why I am addicted to speed and what I get out of racing, this happened to me about 3 months ago or so and makes me smile everytime I think about it.

A guy in a brand new 04 Cobra call my camaro white trash ride when it was parked and he laughed and told me to stop being a poser. I said to put his money where his mouth was $100 he said "no problem " I started my camaro and he looked at me with this suprised look, he heard the lumpy cam and heard it idle at about 1100rpm.....needless to say he made a right turn as soon as we got out of town :tdown:

vejatabul

http://www.rcbproductions.com/video/...vs_syclone.wmv
thats a vi of me beating a syclone off the line and down to the traps. he did a 189 60 foot to my 1.70. we were both on dr's.

THEGENERAL

that looked like an s-10 extreem to me not a syclone???

stu

How are you still in the break in period after 4k miles? You can break a car in on a dyno in like an hour.

pasky

Hahahaha, I wouldn't break my car in on a dyno in an hour. I'd wait a minimum of 700 miles. Your asking for trouble for anything under 400.

/\/3\/\/l8l3

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I am always easy on my cars for the first 1/5 of their life.

Yah you can break in a cam in an hour, but do you go to the track right after? No

stu

That depends on who you ask. Lots of very fast racecar drivers break their cars in like that. You think guys who race laps wait 700 miles before they break their cars in?

People say the same thing about clutches too. Two years ago I got my ACT Stage II clutch installed on a Thursday, and the very next day was Friday night Club Clash in the middle of the season. Over two years later it still holds like the day it was put in, and I'm running nearly tripple the horsepower as when I got it installed.

pasky

Good for you, but i'd rather not void my warranty when it comes to a high performance clutch. When I got my spec III it said 400 mile break in, thats exactly what I did. If I ship it off and say this thing is crap and they notice the signs, well, im SOL. Better safe than sorry and btw, we all don't build nascar race engines designed to live 5 hours of oval track racing.

ShiftyCapone

iTrader: (7)

Most T5/T56 clitches take a very soft 500 miles to break them in. This goes for centerforce, hayes, spec and others. As for motors, every manufactuer is different. Small blocks need a specific break in cycle during a 500 mile interval to set the rings with the proper oiling. Most poeple neglect this step. As an example, most LS1's make more power after 7k of break in. It is funny when you see an LS1 car run 13.8 with 500 miles and then run a 13.1 after 6k of driving with zero mods added.

/\/3\/\/l8l3

Stu I am new to the board and don't know you well but every post I read of yours you are attacking someone elses point or opinion. I understand you go to the tracks but is it really necessary to argue over every detail?

I am giving my motor until 6k or so before I start being really rough and going to the track, I figure I'll be lucky if I can get 30k highway miles on it

I'm going on a business trip for the weekend will return

vejatabul

an extreme s-10?"!!?!? look closer....they did not make extreme s-10's for the 82-93 body style! it even has the stock wheels. you can see the badging. wow. come on.

stu

I'm not attacking anyone, but 6k miles is a REDICULOUS amount of time to break in a motor. You either settle the rings right, or you don't, and it doesn't take 6k miles to do so. I'm not even talking down to you or calling you stupid or anything. All I'm saying is that 6k miles is too long.

pasky

I think Shifty just explained why....

stu

No he didn't. Just because the motor performs better after 6k miles, doesn't mean that it's not broken in by then. You can still hammer on it with no ill affects after like a maximum of 500 miles. I think you guys are missing the point.

THEGENERAL

easy hoss i just glanced at it ....LOL

i stand corrected my bad...

MrDude_1

eh, not only is that time rediculously long, but most race motors dont even last 6k... lol

yes i know we're talking street motors.
yes i know once the motor loosens up and wears together after a few thousand miles, it makes slightly more power.



but once the basic breakin is done, it wont harm the motor by beating on it.

anymethod

I think this has more to do with pride and with invested work/money. If I put $7,000 into my car (which will hopefully happen once I have that much) then I would do everything to baby it for as long as possible. Not to mention the hours of work put in. People who build up their own cars always seem to baby them and take it a lot easier than people who are just given a car. By 6,000 miles his motor should be worked in, but if he chooses to baby it or take it easy then I see nothing wrong with it. But I do agree, 6,000 miles is more than enough. I would put about 1,000 to be safe on my own motor before getting on it a lot.

~Matt

stu

I'm sorry, why would you spend $7,000 on a motor just so you could drive it likes it stock?

Orr89RocZ

iTrader: (20)

i also have a tough time understanding that concept. motors are for going faster. thats why you build them for more power. why spend 7000 on forged bottom end and heads just to be civil daily driver? waste. get a stock rebuild if thats your game.

/\/3\/\/l8l3

I romp on it pretty often but I take it easy daily driving

It might be a lot of miles but hell I want the motor to last more than a year or two if I dropped a pile of money on it.

She spends weeks in the garage she is not my daily driver.

MrDude_1

i find the oppisate to be true.

thoes who put hours of work and thousands of hard earned and saved dollars into their cars, tend to be the same ones who bash on them for fun.


take my car for example. ive probly spent over $40,000 on 3rdgen stuff since i got started. i beat the **** out of the car when im playing.
its just that afterward, i fix what i break. i dont put her up wet.
just because i care about the car, doesnt mean i wont thrash on it.

for me though, its a moot point. once i get a new motor, i tend to put close to 1000 on it that weekend... lol. the next weekend, it goes to the track.

stu

I understand that first part. But the fact that it's not your daily driver and you still don't consider it broken in after 6k miles means it's been like what a year? That's forever. You sound like you changed your story though. No one can argue with getting on it when the time comes, but refraining like driving like an *** at any other time just because you can.

/\/3\/\/l8l3

/sigh Not going to dignify that with a response since you already know everything :hail:

I did change my story I was meaning to say "everyday driving" and not daily driving. So in turn I changed my story here also by dignifying that with a response.

stu

Leave me alone, it's harder than you'd think knowing everything, it takes a lot of work.

MrDude_1

really? i didnt work too hard at it.

90-irocdx3

iTrader: (4)

any pictures of this car?

THEGENERAL

anymethod

Ok maybe I was speaking for myself then, but wouldn't you be more upset if something happened to a car you built yourself than one you just bought and drove? If someone chooses to baby their car then it's their choice and I would until I thought it was broken in. I wouldn't baby it forever.

~Matt

stu

You are talking about two different things here. You don't buy nice pants to paint your house in is all I'm saying.

/\/3\/\/l8l3

Using that logic you don't own a honda and come to the camaro boards.

owned.

stu

LOL, nice try, but you guys are missing a very important detail in where I post. This is the street racing forum, and last time I checked, that sport doesn't belong to anyone.

THEGENERAL

this is very true you dont have to own any certain brand to be here nor do you have to own any certain brand to post anywhere on this site but if you notice stu only posts here on the street racing board for the most part of what ive seen ....

regardless stu when you getting rid of that racing gerbil and getting a real car....LMAO

stu

I was going to sell it, get a student loan, and buy a Saab with the student loan (much better interest rate). But that was going to be too expensive and was taking too long for the loan application, so I'm just going to put another motor into the car here in a couple of weeks. I'll be glad to be back on the road with my 'fake' car, because after driving my car, every other car I've driven has felt broken.

THEGENERAL

fake car ???

where did that come from ?
what did you do to your car ?

stu

The rings on one of the pistons blew remember? It still runs, just on only three cyclinders. I bet it's still faster than most cars I'd run into though. lol. I wonder if I could still beat a GT Mustang with it. heh.

SC82TA

Check this site for how to break a motor in

http://www.mototuneusa.com/break_in_secrets.htm