Out of curiosity, would it take more than $1,000 to get a Z28 in good shape into the 13's at my altitude?

 

If you started with a 91/92 Z, in good condition, and did exhaust and a cam, and ported heads yourself, you'll easily be in the 13's, for under a G. If you do the work yourself.

Sorry to hear bout your car, I was a fan Blew a ring right? Why aren't you going to rebuild it?

Edit: Just read "at my altitude" You're high right? (lol) Umm you'll be in 13's altitude corrected.. If you did some seriously porting on the intake and TB, all free mods, weigh reduction.. yeah you can get high 13's I would imagine. Weight reduction is KEY though. But I'm sure you know that. Add tires for more fun.

 

nitrous. you can get kits for around 500 - 600 bucks. a friend of mine had a 305 Trans Am: he added a K&N cone filter to replace the airbox, a catback, and a 125 shot. when he hit the button halfway through first gear he was rewarded with a 13.1 E/T at 104mph. if his motor was a 350 instead of the 305, he would have definately hit 12s

that would be enough to hit 13s at your altitude for sure

 

Darn, Stu, what happened to your car?

(secret fan of whatever-it-takes-to-get-down-the-track.)

 

if C5 vettes are running low 14's in your altitude, then no way your gonna get a z28 thirdgen in to the 13's for 1000bucks. Unless you add a nitrous kit and some DR's and gears and/or stall converter if auto L98 car.....

350 hp or higher is needed to even approach 13's in your area. and that require heads/cam/intake swaps for TPI cars to go that quick.

on a carbed car, possibly could reach that on a ported to hell set of vortecs off of ebay, and a intake/carb to match with a big cam. but you need to shop around to get the prices to go under 1000 bucks.

 

this stu is an imposter check it out, he registered THIS month, the other stu had over 1000 posts.

 

same stu, and he registered TWO months ago, unless your still stuck in Jan. the other stu was BANNED.

 

You silly kids; I wasn't banned, my account was just deleted for some reason. I asked the mods about it and they said they had no idea what happened and have never seen it before.

Anyway, my car blew a ring or two like three months ago, and instead of trying to jack around with a motor swap, I'm just selling it all mid project. I don't have the time or money to mess around with cars right now so I'm just going to get a beater for a while. It should only be like 6 months until I'm out of school and have a job. Then I can make more fast cars.

 

oh, well, you were on Probation for the longest time, i figured you finally pissed someone off enough to ban you.

 

This is exactly what happened. When we took him off probation all hell broke loose with his account. If he were baned he would not have been able to retain the same user name. It was a freak VB glitch.

 

about your car stu .you can get 3rd ens preety cheap so get one and use it as a beater then turn it into your fast car later.

 

Almost any car is better for a daily than an F-body if you live in Colorado.

 

Sorry to hear about your car trouble and account stu.

If your going the 3rd gen route, congrats...for a beater, I'd look for an old 82-84 and do a engine swap with carb (F### fuel injection IMO) You can find 350 short blocks for next to nothing these days if you look....

Try and find one with around 80k miles (might be hard)

If your on a CHEAP budget, look for a vortec manifold first, find a cheap one, then get the heads. Get an aggressive cam, and a 750cfm demon, 2200-2600 rpm stall converter, set of gears and you should be good to go into the 13's.

Subframe connectors are a MUST

I'm glad to see you interested in the 3rd gen

 

cam, valve springs, and exhaust will get a thirdgen into the 13's with a 350. Definatley possible with $1,000.

 

I'm not necessarily interested in a third gen, I was just curious. 13's for $1,000 is pretty enticing though, especially since it's RWD.

 

You will have to go carb unless you get a killer deal on an LT1 and swap that in. I have seen 5 or so complete LT1's go for 500 bucks.

But I agree with above. $1000 can get you a used 350 shortblock or longblock and you can put a carb top end on it. There is nothing wrong with fuel injection but your chances of getting a complete set-up that is capable of feeding a 13 second car are slim. You would have to find one of those afore mentioned LT1's and deal with the swap. A stock TPI isn't worth your time and I wouldn't waste the effort on TBI (although you could get into the 13's for a grand with TBI if done right). The cheapest and most practical way would be to find an old 80's car that was already carb and go from there. Just don't expect the car to look pretty

 

Haha... if you do happen to pick up a third gen and you're anything like other third gen owners, you'll put way more than $1000 in the car before you'll be hitting 13s, especially at your altitude. Unless you find an exceptionally clean third gen right off the bat for a stellar price, a lot of that money will be going towards just getting it working right. In my experience, third gens are some of the most tempermental cars to work on.

I'm not trying to discourage you from getting a third gen if you are interested (in fact, I'd like to do the opposite; they are fun, awesome cars!), but if you want fast for cheap, go buy a Mustang.

 

:nod

 

A Fox body 5.0 would be my first choice anyway. Actually, now that I think about it, I'd rather get like a 95 GT with the ****ty 4.6, then slap on the newer set of heads for a few hundred bucks and have a decent car to start with.

 

NA 4.6's arent the best place to start unless its a 4v cobra motor like the 96-98 or so.


remember breaking into the 13's at 5000+ feet is like low low 13's to high 12's at sea level areas.

mustangs 5.0's with about a 1000 bucks in mods may get 13's at your altitude. they got an advantage of being lighter than alot of cars. 25thmustang has about that in his car and it does high 12's at more lower elevations. so i would think it would be a mid high 13's at your place. for a thirdgen its gonna be a bit more heavy and not responsive to mods as well.

its all gonna come down to chip tune. you can pick up 30hp on a header/exhaust CAI L98 car with a custom tune. thats gonna make or break most combos and get you the times you should run.

starting with a motor and adding 1000bucks just aint gonna get your that fast real reliably unless you find a deal. things wont last long and may break. i dont think it can be done without Nitrous and a carb'd setup. fuel injection is just too expensive and TPI wont cut it for that price.

 

Yeah, the 4.6 is the worst choice possible. I beleive the 95 is a 302 anyways. 25thmustangs car runs mid 12's NA with stock heads and cam. 5.0's are what you want if you want a fast mustang for cheap. Otherwise a carbed 355 thirdgen build like others have said.

 

Yep, you're right 95 was the last year of the 5.0 motor. Stu, perosnally, I think you should get a Fox Body 5.0 HO Mustang. I love my ThirdGens to death but you cant beat the bang for the buck a 5.0 provides. Likes its been said, 25th runs 12's and hasnt even upgraded his cam or heads. 5.0's take bolts onsl ike a fat kid with cake. YOu'll have lots of fun in one too, I love driving mine. But if you're looking at a ThirdGen, snag a L98 car, or a LB9, and go from there. The SBC is around the same level as the 5.0 motor in bang for the buck. a Small Block is easy to work on, pretty cheap to work on and you can get power gains through minimal work on alot of motors. Good luck in your choice.

 

Not so true. But 4x4 comes in handy now and then.
Laters,
Conrad

 

Thanks for all the replies.