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i wasnt being down right serious but i mean if you had 350 hp at the wheels peak, they your probly seeing a damn good amount at Lower rpms too. thats alot more than stock i am sure. even if you shift at 3K rpms thats still alot of power at that rpm. its still gonna be somewhat tough. you would have to crawl around in the snow.
and if you part throttle a 2wd car with same power, i dont see how it would be any different from a AWD car if you have the proper tires. my friends 2wd S10 went damn good in the snow for years with just 150lbs in the bed and studded tires
and whats so funny about my statement on FI vs N/A
try making 700hp on a 355 N/A and driving it on the street. it can be reliable but not as street friendly. i should have mentioned i was thinking of street friendly-ness. blown 355 can easily make 355 and maintain streetablility and be more reliable
and if you part throttle a 2wd car with same power, i dont see how it would be any different from a AWD car if you have the proper tires. my friends 2wd S10 went damn good in the snow for years with just 150lbs in the bed and studded tires
and whats so funny about my statement on FI vs N/A
try making 700hp on a 355 N/A and driving it on the street. it can be reliable but not as street friendly. i should have mentioned i was thinking of street friendly-ness. blown 355 can easily make 355 and maintain streetablility and be more reliable
Last edited by Orr89RocZ; May 27, 2005 at 01:37 PM.
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Car: 89 Iroc-z
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thats makes sense... just realized that its turbo'd and not N/A so power down low is not there since no boost is being made...
eh, brain farts......
eh, brain farts......
Well, an STi has exceptionally good torque (even down low), I even have a buddy who's car made near equal, if not more torque on his STi at around the 400 level. With a turbo though, you can stay completely out of boost and not really make any power. I've known some Supra guys who drive their single turbo set-ups in the snow.
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Car: 1988 IROC-Z, 95 Z-28
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As for how fast the VR6 cars are. My buddy has one swapped into his 1990 GTI has all sorts of mods done to it. Wiht the 305 tbi in my car he had me by about 7 cars. Not bad considering my car has a couple hundred pounds on his and down atleast 50 hp.
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Originally posted by Orr89RocZ
thats makes sense... just realized that its turbo'd and not N/A so power down low is not there since no boost is being made...
eh, brain farts......
thats makes sense... just realized that its turbo'd and not N/A so power down low is not there since no boost is being made...
eh, brain farts......
That has to be one of the biggest misconceptions in the automotive world.
Like I said, not picking on you but a lot of people say the same comment you did.
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i understand what your saying. turbos have produced tons of Low end torque over superchargers and N/A motors... i have seen comparison tests and turbos can make impressive down low numbers. dont get me wrong, i know what they are capable of...
its just that i forgot you can stay out of boost to limit that power, to make it easier to drive in snow conditions where power is not what you need. thats what i was getting at. you can control boost to limit your power to lessen the low end to drive better in the winter.
its just that i forgot you can stay out of boost to limit that power, to make it easier to drive in snow conditions where power is not what you need. thats what i was getting at. you can control boost to limit your power to lessen the low end to drive better in the winter.
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Originally posted by TRAXION
Don't forget about the type of life you might find yourself in. When you're married with 2 kids ... a Subaru STI is an awesome car. Snow? No problem. 2 kids? No problem. Safe? Absolutely (Front/Side Airbags, HUGE brakes, ABS, crumple zones, etc). There's more to a car then just power potential and depending on where you are in your life you will see what I am saying. My IROC ran mid 11's. I sold it for an STI ... and I'm totally happy with it. Hmmmmmmmm. I'm putting down over 300 to the wheels in a lighter car with awesome brakes and cornering ability ... and I can drive it year round ... and I can put both my kids in the back and rest assured I am driving a safe car. I would never have done that with the camaro. It sat in the garage more than I drived it. I'm slowly preparing it for the new turbo. All I need is injectors before I can buy a new turbo (I already have full exhaust, full engine management that I can tune on the fly by myself, full-time wideband O2 sensor, walbro fuel pump, etc). With a new turbo it will easily put down 350 to the wheels. Weak eh? lol.
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Don't forget about the type of life you might find yourself in. When you're married with 2 kids ... a Subaru STI is an awesome car. Snow? No problem. 2 kids? No problem. Safe? Absolutely (Front/Side Airbags, HUGE brakes, ABS, crumple zones, etc). There's more to a car then just power potential and depending on where you are in your life you will see what I am saying. My IROC ran mid 11's. I sold it for an STI ... and I'm totally happy with it. Hmmmmmmmm. I'm putting down over 300 to the wheels in a lighter car with awesome brakes and cornering ability ... and I can drive it year round ... and I can put both my kids in the back and rest assured I am driving a safe car. I would never have done that with the camaro. It sat in the garage more than I drived it. I'm slowly preparing it for the new turbo. All I need is injectors before I can buy a new turbo (I already have full exhaust, full engine management that I can tune on the fly by myself, full-time wideband O2 sensor, walbro fuel pump, etc). With a new turbo it will easily put down 350 to the wheels. Weak eh? lol.
Tim
Originally posted by Orr89RocZ
traxion your car was a 11 sec N/A v8 car.... those arent the best streetable choice. you could have built a blown 355-383 and made a honest 450 at the wheels very reliably and very street friendly. forced induction cars always will be more reliable than N/A once the power levels increase
traxion your car was a 11 sec N/A v8 car.... those arent the best streetable choice. you could have built a blown 355-383 and made a honest 450 at the wheels very reliably and very street friendly. forced induction cars always will be more reliable than N/A once the power levels increase
The car surprised me on just how "street friendly" it is, it doesn't act tremendously different than any other thirdgen until you put your foot into it. I mean this seriously. As far as reliability goes, I wouldn't hesitate to make it my daily driver if I had to...I think it has more to do with doing things right which is why this car can be trusted. If I had put the car together I'd be standing on the side of the road with my thumb out.
Anyway, I'm not jumping in on you, I'm just saying you'd be very surprised just how "street friendly and reliable" this NA car can be.Oh yeah, and I do take my oldest daughter for rides in the IROC occasionaly and have no fears because when I have her in the car I'm not going to be stupid.
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thats good to know, i have heard stories about that car and thought it was alittle rough on the street. but its good to know that it really isnt.
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Originally posted by Orr89RocZ
thats good to know, i have heard stories about that car and thought it was alittle rough on the street. but its good to know that it really isnt.
thats good to know, i have heard stories about that car and thought it was alittle rough on the street. but its good to know that it really isnt.
There is just something about it. The biggest reason that the car is so streetable is because of my tuning. I have a lot of time into that car with regard to the tuning. It's a wolf in sheep's clothing. Those who I have taken for a ride in the car didn't believe me when I told them it had a 3600 stall converter ... and they definitely didn't believe me when I gave them an idea of the cam specs. The cam is huge and on an LSA that most say won't work in an EFI motor. But it does work ... and it works darn well.
James: a gutted 3" converter will be fine! Go for it.
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Originally posted by TRAXION
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j/k...I remember your car at the Nats in MD...that really was a sweet ride
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