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Old Jun 29, 2005 | 08:50 PM
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That was close-srt-4

I pull up next to a blue srt-4 at a light. Two dudes in the car. Light only was red for a couple of secs. Anyway, I'am not thinking race, just jamming some tunes and look over. Driver looking at me so I turn down the tunes and look over and he ask if I want to go. I say sure and get ready for the green. Its a two lane and 50 mph from there on to the next light. Got him out of the hole by a car and by 50 he was at my front tire and reeling me in. Good thing the next light was red and he turned with a wave that I returned. Any more than that and I would of been seening neon tail lights. I know that they are faster than me so the street gods shine down on the gta tonight. Good fun.

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Old Jun 29, 2005 | 08:55 PM
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Not much faster they run a high 13 and you should be running around a low 14 sounds like a good race.
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Old Jun 29, 2005 | 09:09 PM
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Nice run. You ran him in the perfect manor to give you the advantage. It is amazing how fast those little boogers are.
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Old Jul 1, 2005 | 12:17 PM
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stock srt's run like 14.5's at a track....my buddy has a yellow one with stage 1...they are not that fast outta the hole, i could get him all the time with my car before all the mods, i had a stock vette engine, and peg leg rear with 2.73's, and i could still pull on him outta the hole, but 2nd and 3rd gears in those srt's are nuts, they pull so hard....thats where they make some ground....thank *** for street lights tho
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Old Jul 1, 2005 | 03:40 PM
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Was a car I was condering as a Daily Driver....awsome little cars to drive and its Domestic!
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Old Jul 1, 2005 | 03:46 PM
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Old Jul 1, 2005 | 08:14 PM
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stock srt's run like 14.5's at a track...
Then those driver's can't drive or you're at a higher altitude....
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Old Jul 1, 2005 | 10:40 PM
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no we aren't at high altitude...there was 4 srt's at the track that day, they were all running consistant 14.5's-14.7's....and i talked to somebody else on here and thats all there running by him too...they are rated at 13.9, and usually you can't come very close to the factory rating on those ricers...
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Old Jul 2, 2005 | 02:06 AM
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Originally posted by klumb15
no we aren't at high altitude...there was 4 srt's at the track that day, they were all running consistant 14.5's-14.7's....and i talked to somebody else on here and thats all there running by him too...they are rated at 13.9, and usually you can't come very close to the factory rating on those ricers...
Do have any idea what you're talking about? Ever?
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Old Jul 2, 2005 | 06:54 AM
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not to start an argument or anything but I saw a srt-4 go 13.84 against me and he said all he had was better tires.. the secret in those cars is knowing how to launch without spinning or bogging that little hair-dryer down.

ps- I sill beat him
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Old Jul 2, 2005 | 06:58 AM
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Originally posted by klumb15
no we aren't at high altitude...there was 4 srt's at the track that day, they were all running consistant 14.5's-14.7's....and i talked to somebody else on here and thats all there running by him too...they are rated at 13.9, and usually you can't come very close to the factory rating on those ricers...
Its a Neon for one...you know made by DODGE. I wouldnt knock anything running mid to low 14's that costs under 23k from the factory....and it doesnt take much to make them much quicker. Heck Dodge even makes the Upgrade kits for the cars.
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Old Jul 2, 2005 | 07:01 AM
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not to start an argument or anything but I saw a srt-4 go 13.84 against me and he said all he had was better tires.. the secret in those cars is knowing how to launch without spinning or bogging that little hair-dryer down.

ps- I sill beat him

BTW if you do some research....The SRT-4's have a Bad problem with Wheel Hop and Busting Motor mounts. They also seem to have a Problem with Turbo Leak from the Factory. The top suggestions for these cars off the lot is Poly Mounts, Strut Brace and make sure all the Hoses etc etc for the Turbo system are nice and Tight. Not hard at all to get those cars into the Low 13's..even 12's. I still want one to drive back and forth to work in
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Old Jul 2, 2005 | 10:27 AM
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Do have any idea what you're talking about? Ever?
dude what are you talkign about, seriously...how does my post not make sense? i saw what I saw, there was 4 srt's, and thats all the faster they were running, so get off me man....like posted above, the big problem with those cars are wheel hop...when my buddy launches, he spins all through first with wheel hop, its pretty hard to run anything faster than a 14.5 when your car is doing that....
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Old Jul 2, 2005 | 01:02 PM
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and usually you can't come very close to the factory rating on those ricers...
Let me go ahead and highlight the problem here. What is this even supposed to mean?
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Old Jul 2, 2005 | 01:51 PM
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dude what are you talkign about, seriously...how does my post not make sense? i saw what I saw, there was 4 srt's, and thats all the faster they were running, so get off me man....like posted above, the big problem with those cars are wheel hop...when my buddy launches, he spins all through first with wheel hop, its pretty hard to run anything faster than a 14.5 when your car is doing that....
...and I've seen them break into the 13's stock, with the dealer tag still on them. Your point?
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Old Jul 2, 2005 | 08:43 PM
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yea i'm not doubtin them breaking into the 13's stock....i know there is some very simple things you can do to them and you can get them to run much faster than stock....i give dodge all the credit in the world for giving them cheap stock parts like motor mounts etc etc, because then they just make more money cuz they have such a big aftermarket for them...

Let me go ahead and highlight the problem here. What is this even supposed to mean?
it means just what it says....i look at factory ratings on some of those ricers, and the MAJORITY of the time, the people that buy them can't match the numbers even if they are really good drivers...i saw STI's and evo's at the track the other weekend, rated at what 13.4 stock or something like that, they were running high 13's....but then you see stock LS1's running 13.7, 13.8, and thats what they are rated at stock...i've even seen them surpass the factory rating while remaining completely stock.....i'm not arguing what you guys have seen, maybe you guys have seen srt's surpass the factory rating, but i'm just saying, the srt's around me haven't even come close to the 13.9 they are rated at....
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Old Jul 2, 2005 | 08:45 PM
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aren't there SRT cars and SRT 4's
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Old Jul 2, 2005 | 08:48 PM
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nope its the neon, neon sxt, and neon srt-4....
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Old Jul 2, 2005 | 10:56 PM
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but then you see stock LS1's running 13.7, 13.8, and thats what they are rated at stock
huh?

Please stop reading magazines ASAP.
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Old Jul 2, 2005 | 11:20 PM
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Stop evading the filters.

By definition an american car is not a '*****' as the origin of '****' is in referring to japanese bikes. I know it hurts to see cars with half the cylinders going faster stock than your v8 but it's the way things are now and will be in the future, sorry to be the bearer of bad news. It's better to accept these new cars for what they are, fast cars without a lot of luxuries being sold for relatively cheap. I remember GM used to make a car in that very price range at some point that was a fast cheap car. I think there's a website dedicated to them somewhere...
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Old Jul 3, 2005 | 12:22 AM
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inwo, what website what could that great website be? TGO? sure as heck isn't 3go, Ferrari.com maybe?
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Old Jul 3, 2005 | 09:06 AM
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Old Jul 3, 2005 | 01:39 PM
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Originally posted by Inwo
I think there's a website dedicated to them somewhere...
Yeah, but it was too hard to get the kind of performance out of them that Car and Driver said was possible, so people stopped posting there.
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Old Jul 6, 2005 | 09:27 PM
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alright let's make it simple. i own both, an 86 iroc and on 05 srt4.
05 has the highest output so far on stock ecm of 230hp/250ft.lbs. the cars weigh in at less than 3k lbs. (2950lbs) and wheel hop is horrible. although i heard sticker tires help, improving the front susp. is a must. the 05's are rated at 14.2 off the floor. a friend has an 04 with mods but w/o slicks he spun like hell and stayed in the low 14's. add good rubber and you're in the 13's. just a typhoon kit and exhaust will put you there too. 1st and 2nd kinda suck but 3rd is a short gear and you'll jump to 100mph fast. thank *** mine's still stock cuz i'd feel bad letting it beat my z, that'll never happen
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yea the 04's are rated a bit lower for specs, and have a bit more horsepower, then in 05 the made them a bit slower...its pretty sad my buddy is running right there with the 05's in his 04....you gotta really beat the sh*t out of a stock one to get to what its rated at...
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Old Jul 6, 2005 | 10:28 PM
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03-215hp 04-220hp 05-230hp
where do you get the 04 had more power than 05, i'm talking stock ecms. stage 1 will give you 240hp no matter the year. 03 is the only one you have to upgrade the injectors right away. 04 was upgraded and kept that way for 05. stage 2 will put you over 260hp and stage 3 will have you over 350hp depending on if you run turbo toys and upgrade exhaust and intake. your friend should be keeping up with the 05, 10hp stock difference, that's it.
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My buddy just bought an 05 SRT4. We raced from a dig and a roll. From a dead stop i owned him. From a 15mph roll it was a bit more interesting with him pulling on me in certain RPM ranges, but i still walked him.
The cool thing about his car is the fact that dodge offers the upgrades and it is still covered by the factory warranty. Thats cool if you got a new car...... every car ive owned has had at least 60k and 4 years
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Old Jul 7, 2005 | 12:32 AM
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The cool thing about his car is the fact that dodge offers the upgrades and it is still covered by the factory warranty. Thats cool if you got a new car...... every car ive owned has had at least 60k and 4 years
dodge needs something to keep it competitive these days
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Old Jul 7, 2005 | 07:46 AM
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03-215hp 04-220hp 05-230hp
they didn't make a 03 srt did they? i thought they came out in 04....my buddy has the yellow one and he said it comes stock with stage 1, cuz the yellow one was the promotional one or something...is this true? he's the one that told me that the 05's were rated less, i knew it wasn't much tho....i also like how you can buy mopar stuff and keep the warranty, most manufacter's just say F you when you do engine mods to a warrantied car...
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Old Jul 7, 2005 | 11:28 AM
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You should immediately stop listening to anything your friend says. lmao.
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Old Jul 7, 2005 | 02:22 PM
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yea i'm beginnign to realize that....i've been looking into srt's now ever since this post started...and the majority of the stuff he says is all BS...how can you have a sports car like that, and know absolutely nothin about it...unbelievable...i don't even own an srt, and from what i'm reading, i already know more than he does about it...
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Old Jul 7, 2005 | 07:16 PM
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your friend is an idiot!! as for the upgrades, they are not cheap. i'll give it to mopar for high quality parts but you need the dealership to install them. i was quoted nearly $4500 for the stage 3 not including the exhaust kit (which is made by borla), that you need to even achieve the hp #'s they claim, nor installation. And if your dealership is anything like the one here in Lebanon, heh, they won't get to touch the car unless there is a real problem covered under the warranty.
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Old Jul 18, 2005 | 08:27 PM
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Nice little racket dodge has there...Sell the car cheap,but if you want more power and keep the warranty you have to have them install there package at a nice hefty price. So as usual it all evens out. Impressive running car with average looks.
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Old Jul 18, 2005 | 10:46 PM
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You don't have to go through the dealership though, that's just if you want that set-up. Anything through a dealership will be expensive.
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Old Jul 19, 2005 | 07:13 PM
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if you want to keep your warranty you do. if you read the posts you would understand that. there are many companies and motorheads with kits on the market. hell if you know what you're doing and have access to everything you can build the srt-4's up to burn the more expensive sports cars and still not spend nearly the amount of the higher end competition.
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Old Jul 19, 2005 | 07:30 PM
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I know that's why people do that. But if you really think that you are able to blow up your car with those parts on it and get it covered, think again. It makes no difference which parts you use.
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yea i know what you mean stu....they say, yea if you buy all the parts from us, we'll keep your warranty effective...so pretty much they are saying, if i buy a 2005 srt, get stage 1, 2, and 3 put on it, then it would be like a 400 hp srt, then take it to the track every weekend until it blows up...and that would mean dodge would have to replace your motor under warranty because that is what it states doesn't it? for some reason i got a feeling theres something wrong with that, and you'll just end up with a nice bill for a new motor...
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Old Jul 19, 2005 | 11:53 PM
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See, once it blows up, they'll just tell you that it's because you did something wrong (which is true) so it doesn't matter which parts you put on it if you actually blow it up. If you don't blow it up, then does it matter? No.

P.S. I'd probably buy the factory stuff.
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Old Jul 20, 2005 | 09:12 PM
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show me a warranty that will insure racing in it. oh that's right, i don't think any exist. not everyone who has a fast car takes it to the track all the time. some of us just enjoy the overall performance of a vehicle. i'd like to know that if my life or a friend or family's depended on me hauling *** to or away from somewhere, and fast, i'd be able to do that without second guessing anything. a warranty is just as good as your insurance coverage, mess something up at the track, it's all on you.
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Old Jul 20, 2005 | 09:19 PM
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show me a warranty that will insure racing in it. oh that's right, i don't think any exist.
For the most part this is correct but GM will warrent any corvette taken to the track. That is one of the reasons behind the torque managment system. It was developed to decrease driveline shock between shifts. Because there is less chance of breaking now they encourage their owners to take their car to the track. This is an exception though.
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Old Jul 20, 2005 | 09:26 PM
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Subaru encourages track days, as well as Land Rover taking people on off-roading tours.

Needing the power to escape to save your families life? HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

Thanks for saving my life with your stage two package Dodge, I owe you one!
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Old Jul 21, 2005 | 07:25 PM
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Dodge also has track days too. I received a letter for SRT vehicles only at some track.

Stu, such a comedian. I'm beginning to believe the only reason you are on any of these forums is to be a jerk to others with your degrading comments. Sounds to me like your personal life sucks so you take your anger out on the internet. Cool man, real cool!!! I hope you **** someone off someday and they catch your *** and beat you to a bloody pulp while your wishing your pinto was a little faster so they never would have caught you!! HAHAHAHAAHA, now thats funny!!!
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Stu, such a comedian. I'm beginning to believe the only reason you are on any of these forums is to be a jerk to others with your degrading comments. Sounds to me like your personal life sucks so you take your anger out on the internet. Cool man, real cool!!! I hope you **** someone off someday and they catch your *** and beat you to a bloody pulp while your wishing your pinto was a little faster so they never would have caught you!! HAHAHAHAAHA, now thats funny!!!
He is harmless. It is funny how he will say/ask one ambiguous comment/question and then the next five posts are from people saying he is an ***. You guys must be oblivious to his humor. All the while you don’t realize you are breaking the rules more then he ever does. Relax guys. He feeds off posts like this. When you say things like this it makes you look silly. Stating the most cliche internet hate response doesn't give you much credit in the creativity department. Stu has us all on that one. Lets relax guys.

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I've already received death threats from people on my local board from banning them for breaking the rules. I'm not too worried about someone with low level wit being angry at me.


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well if you have already got death threats and what not, you think you would learn that people don't exactly like you....i dunno, i guess thats how i learn...

I'm not sure if you get your jolly's of saying rude comments, btu whatever works ya know...ya gotta do whatcha gotta do i guess....your day will come tho...

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Old Jul 21, 2005 | 09:04 PM
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Originally posted by klumb15
well if you have already got death threats and what not, you think you would learn that people don't exactly like you....i dunno, i guess thats how i learn...
The story was actually really funny and stu didn't egg him on at all. The guy had internet rage. The worst kind of them all.

But I agree about getting back on topic.
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Old Jul 21, 2005 | 09:15 PM
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yea i agree there wasn't anything really directed towards anyone in this thread, but i've seen stu mix up a few people...its funny to watch, but frusterating when your the victim...
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Old Jul 22, 2005 | 05:55 PM
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i'm with getting back to the topic, as for angry at stu, im not. low level wit, heh, whatever!!! I just clearly stated how i felt, just being a smartass like him. As far as i know, no rules broken from either side.
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Old Jul 22, 2005 | 06:41 PM
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