Just barely edged out a 2001 Camaro 3.8.
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Originally Posted by mw66nova
so my 12.1 pass pedalling it out of the hole...that was a fast pass, or no?
There's just too many blown mustangs, fox's, heads/cam LS1's, Covettes, and Vipers that are modded out there on the street (yah a lot of them arent daily drivers) that can go to the track at bust out 11s everytime on a tire (and some on street tires I'm sure). But the point is they are out there, and saying you ran a low 13 isnt going to get you a win light against these cars. They may not be what the majority of street cars run, but that's why I call them fast. If you are knockin off high 12s like the majority of performance oriented street cars, are you really special or fast???
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see, and i still drive mine everday too 
once i get me another car (got my eyes set on a nice '78 gmc caballero) i'm gonna put a kit on her too...hopefully a 150 hit...that'd put me well into the 10.8's i figure.
once i get me another car (got my eyes set on a nice '78 gmc caballero) i'm gonna put a kit on her too...hopefully a 150 hit...that'd put me well into the 10.8's i figure.
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never used the stuff myself, but i'm hoping to get it workin' right, seein' as i got of lot buddies who use the stuff on a regular basis. unfortunately, i'm gonna have to completely revamp my fuel system though (STILL using the factory mechanical pump for an 85 lg4.)
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My heavy truck on 20" wheels 3/4 full tank (26 gallon tank) and tools in the toolbox pulled mid 13s on a 100 shot. The stuff is ****...
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Originally Posted by stu
My favorite part was the first sentance.
"I just read 2 of your 1,400 posts and determined something or other blah blah blah blah."
LOL, what a laugh riot!
"I just read 2 of your 1,400 posts and determined something or other blah blah blah blah."
LOL, what a laugh riot!
yeah just to spend my 4000+ post to complain about how bad thirdgens are. that's it. and the mods yeah they don't mind. they enjoy having me here bashing thirdgens for the last 5 years so it's cool. don't worry about ok?
kids man. it's just kids these days.
brody while I can see where your comming from in a way but also think it's not like every car out there is running 11's. in a way it could also be releative to what your driving. like my accord if I run a 15 second pass. THAT IS FAST. hell if I break into the 16's I'm doing damned good. but then again my car is a 68hp monster from the factory and on a good day might bust below a 20 second 1/4. on the other hand your driving a new z06 11's isn't all that fast relative to what your driving.
sure my car pulling 15's might not smoke much but it's a feat and compared to the way the car was stock that is a very good feat and it makes the car fast relative to what kind of car it is.
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Originally Posted by rx7speed
sure my car pulling 15's might not smoke much but it's a feat and compared to the way the car was stock that is a very good feat and it makes the car fast relative to what kind of car it is.
If that was the case, the Honda S2000 would be the best naturally aspirated production car ever built by a long shot.
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i don't know, those f40's are pretty bad, making what...500hp from a 2.9l v8 or something retarded like that?
i don't care if your accord ran 30's from the factory and now your running 15's, that's still a slow car and you waisted your time and money getting it there if your goal is to have a fast car. if your goal was to make a 20 second ride into a 15 second ride, then you've done what you wanted to and it should be commended, cause i know it's not an easy deal (this coming from the guy with the "bad-azz 305" that ran low 13's) but it's STILL not a fast car.
and 11's is not fast to me. i know too many people in my area running 10's and 9's in cars that you COULD drive everday. not saying they do, but with fuel injection and forced induction the way it is today, it's totally possible to knock down a high 9 second pass, then go home on a set of drag radials and knock down 22+mpg...
i don't care if your accord ran 30's from the factory and now your running 15's, that's still a slow car and you waisted your time and money getting it there if your goal is to have a fast car. if your goal was to make a 20 second ride into a 15 second ride, then you've done what you wanted to and it should be commended, cause i know it's not an easy deal (this coming from the guy with the "bad-azz 305" that ran low 13's) but it's STILL not a fast car.
and 11's is not fast to me. i know too many people in my area running 10's and 9's in cars that you COULD drive everday. not saying they do, but with fuel injection and forced induction the way it is today, it's totally possible to knock down a high 9 second pass, then go home on a set of drag radials and knock down 22+mpg...
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stu even then I know my car wouldn't be competitive. fast compared to what it was. but a true fast car? not quite. it's just now on part with a few new econo boxes.
and anyway the rx7 makes more hp/L then the s2000. doesn't mean much I still drive a slow car
and anyway the rx7 makes more hp/L then the s2000. doesn't mean much I still drive a slow car
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lol me try to make the accord a realy fast car is a joke. sure one hell of a sleeper but WAY too much work. I'm more interested in trying something a little different with a slow *** car making is a little faster of a slow *** car and hopefully learn something more about carbs,turbos and how not to blow a motor. and be able to keep up in traffic. it's sad when you loose a race to a metro when your going ***** to the walls, only to find out the metro wasn't racing. a 10 speed could prolly beat me out of the hole
even with your 305 though it might not have been fast to you. for a n/a 305 from a time of semi ****box cars and performance with a not so great motor your car was fairly fast. again at least for what it was.
even with your 305 though it might not have been fast to you. for a n/a 305 from a time of semi ****box cars and performance with a not so great motor your car was fairly fast. again at least for what it was.
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just did a little research, the engines top fuel guys have are limited to 500cubic inches, which equals 8.19L
so, you have 500 hp from a 2.9L which equals 172.414hp/L
but, top fuel cars are claiming between 6,000 and 8,000 hp...so say we go low and say 5,000hp from 8.19L which equals 610.5hp/L
yeah, i'd say the top fuel car is out on top on this one.
so, you have 500 hp from a 2.9L which equals 172.414hp/L
but, top fuel cars are claiming between 6,000 and 8,000 hp...so say we go low and say 5,000hp from 8.19L which equals 610.5hp/L
yeah, i'd say the top fuel car is out on top on this one.
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you guys make me feel bad about my 14 second stocker 
Oh well, for now its fine. Though I would like to reach 12s, maybe with a different car and some forced induction
Oh well, for now its fine. Though I would like to reach 12s, maybe with a different car and some forced induction
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Originally Posted by stu
F40 was turbocharged. Glad you brought that up, since the highest horsepower turbo cars made WAY more power per liter than Top Fuel dragsters do.
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Actually theres no way to be certain, because you cannot dyno a top fuel car 
They may very well have 8,000 hp.
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you know what though? when it boils down to it and we're talkin' stop light to stop light, hp/L means jack.
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Originally Posted by mw66nova
you know what though? when it boils down to it and we're talkin' stop light to stop light, hp/L means jack.
Kinda like how being pound-for-pound stronger than someone twice your size doesn't keep you from getting your butt kicked.
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Originally Posted by mw66nova
you know what though? when it boils down to it and we're talkin' stop light to stop light, hp/L means jack.
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Originally Posted by mw66nova
you know what though? when it boils down to it and we're talkin' stop light to stop light, hp/L means jack.
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Originally Posted by stu
But you'll admit that I was right about the hp/liter thing? Because it's true, I was right.
till in the real world I lift my mad ol' boot up and put the stomp down.
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Originally Posted by rx7speed
since I have my rx7 back up and running I'm now working on ricing out my honda with a DFV webber. also working out a deal with a friend right now (depends on how many six packs he wants) to help out with fabbing up a header for my car since the whole two exhuast ports going into one big box kinda sucks. just picked up a turbo from a dodge daytona when I went shopping for some more parts for the rx7. figured I would need that for my friend to help with the header for it. trying to replace the head with a canadian style head for the accord to get rid of the 3bbl setup which should help compliment the weber a little better . the weber is sitting right now with some other parts for either the rx7 or the honda. only thing stopping me from putting it on their right now is either I need that head which would be nice but can't seem to find one. parts for this car are not easy to find. so I might just need to go with the intake adaptor :\
but here I go ricing the car out right?
if your curious what I'm ricing take a look for the cvcc accord with the ef1. what a ricers dream
but here I go ricing the car out right?
if your curious what I'm ricing take a look for the cvcc accord with the ef1. what a ricers dream
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Originally Posted by stu
But you'll admit that I was right about the hp/liter thing? Because it's true, I was right.
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Yeah, 9s just aren't that fast. I know a friend of a friend of my aunt's boss's mother's maid that has a car that runs LOW 4s without the shot. He can't use his shot though, because he'll literally be traveling BACK IN TIME just because the car is so fast. I'd estimate it runs in the high -2s. 
Sorry, I don't buy into the idea that just because a car doesn't run "as fast" as some of the cars out there, it's not fast at all. Hurling 3400 lbs of matter down a 1/4 strip of road in 14 seconds is pretty impressive if you ask me, when you consider an average human in relatively good shape could only do it in about 2-4 minutes.
P.S. - If your car does not make 600 HP and is not driven daily, or if it doesn't have jet engines and retractable wings to allow for extended periods of flight, it's just not fast. Plain and simple.
Sorry, I don't buy into the idea that just because a car doesn't run "as fast" as some of the cars out there, it's not fast at all. Hurling 3400 lbs of matter down a 1/4 strip of road in 14 seconds is pretty impressive if you ask me, when you consider an average human in relatively good shape could only do it in about 2-4 minutes.
P.S. - If your car does not make 600 HP and is not driven daily, or if it doesn't have jet engines and retractable wings to allow for extended periods of flight, it's just not fast. Plain and simple.
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Originally Posted by stu
You prove that 8,000 whp number that someone else suggested to you, and we'll talk.
Just because you can't dyno it, doesn't mean it's higher. It could also only be 3,700 whp as well.
Just because you can't dyno it, doesn't mean it's higher. It could also only be 3,700 whp as well.
why is it that people always have to PROVE crap to you stu? could you admit that you actually might be WRONG on something?
i know for a fact that they make over 3700hp because the promods are making around that much, weighing in at over 3000lbs only run 6.0's...and at that ET, you need ALOT more HP to go much faster, unlike 10hp picking up a 10th when your running 18.0's.
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ok, i was wrong, they are only making 7000hp, which is still 854.7hp/L...which is still more than your F1
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what is the purpose of this pissing match? these two cars are two completely different animals, one that is used for longevity and they other gets torn down after every 1/4mile blast. i don't think it matters who makes more hp/L...what difference does it make?
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Originally Posted by Nate86
Yeah, 9s just aren't that fast. I know a friend of a friend of my aunt's boss's mother's maid that has a car that runs LOW 4s without the shot. He can't use his shot though, because he'll literally be traveling BACK IN TIME just because the car is so fast. I'd estimate it runs in the high -2s.
Sorry, I don't buy into the idea that just because a car doesn't run "as fast" as some of the cars out there, it's not fast at all. Hurling 3400 lbs of matter down a 1/4 strip of road in 14 seconds is pretty impressive if you ask me, when you consider an average human in relatively good shape could only do it in about 2-4 minutes.
P.S. - If your car does not make 600 HP and is not driven daily, or if it doesn't have jet engines and retractable wings to allow for extended periods of flight, it's just not fast. Plain and simple.
Sorry, I don't buy into the idea that just because a car doesn't run "as fast" as some of the cars out there, it's not fast at all. Hurling 3400 lbs of matter down a 1/4 strip of road in 14 seconds is pretty impressive if you ask me, when you consider an average human in relatively good shape could only do it in about 2-4 minutes.
P.S. - If your car does not make 600 HP and is not driven daily, or if it doesn't have jet engines and retractable wings to allow for extended periods of flight, it's just not fast. Plain and simple.
You can turn a 20 second car into a 15 second car. It's still a slow car. You can 'hurl' 3400 lbs. of matter down a quarter mile track in 14 seconds too, but it doesn't make it fast. All of your friends can ride shotgun in your f-body and claim it to be, "like totally the fastest thing around!" It's still not fast. You can magically make a bone stock LO3 powered car run 13s, guess what, it's still not a fast car.
In most cases it all comes down to money and know-how. But don't be fooled by your butt-dyno or by your friends, you car isn't fast if it's turning 14 second timeslips.
Hell I daily drive a truck that runs high 14s (like 14.9s) to low low 15's. That's slower then a good portion of third-gens out there (
), but in my opinion it is still fast enough for a daily driver... 
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how did this post end up in a pissing match it was about a good kill on a 2001 camaro i know what happens next 
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how did this post end up in a pissing match it was about a good kill on a 2001 camaro i know what happens next
Debates tend to spiral off of discussions, especially off of street racing topics.
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hey brody I never said my car was or would be fast. if anything I would admit as I have done about my rx7 many times.
it's slow and prolly always will be slow. either one of the cars.
now if someone could only donate a thirdgen to me :-) I've been trying but nobody wants to help out.
it's slow and prolly always will be slow. either one of the cars.
now if someone could only donate a thirdgen to me :-) I've been trying but nobody wants to help out.
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What happens next? You're gonna start using punctuation in your sentences?
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Debates tend to spiral off of discussions, especially off of street racing topics.
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Originally Posted by mw66nova
what is the purpose of this pissing match?
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Originally Posted by rx7speed
hey brody I never said my car was or would be fast. if anything I would admit as I have done about my rx7 many times.
it's slow and prolly always will be slow. either one of the cars.
now if someone could only donate a thirdgen to me :-) I've been trying but nobody wants to help out.
it's slow and prolly always will be slow. either one of the cars.
now if someone could only donate a thirdgen to me :-) I've been trying but nobody wants to help out.
i've also got lots of 305 parts to include one whole motor (minus intake) stock bore, and one .030 over block/crank/pistons. whole motor is stock '84 lg4 and has a bottom end knock, other has no rods, and only 7 pistons. also have a set of 187 heads and lots of other stuff. i'd take $200 for ALL my 305 stuff.
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Originally Posted by mw66nova
hey, i've got an 87 sportcoupe with a small amount of rust damage in the right rear quarter panel, floors are good, needs doors, motor, tranny rear, interior...but if you come and get it off of the blocks it's sitting' on in my pops back yard, your more than welcome to it for free. (remember my red 87 sport coupe LT? yeah, that's the one)bring wheels, i've got a blowed up rearend we can put under it to get it moving...oh, and bring a steering wheel too...
i've also got lots of 305 parts to include one whole motor (minus intake) stock bore, and one .030 over block/crank/pistons. whole motor is stock '84 lg4 and has a bottom end knock, other has no rods, and only 7 pistons. also have a set of 187 heads and lots of other stuff. i'd take $200 for ALL my 305 stuff.
i've also got lots of 305 parts to include one whole motor (minus intake) stock bore, and one .030 over block/crank/pistons. whole motor is stock '84 lg4 and has a bottom end knock, other has no rods, and only 7 pistons. also have a set of 187 heads and lots of other stuff. i'd take $200 for ALL my 305 stuff.
your in georgia and I'm in idaho. lond way to drive a car ona blown rear end held together with jbweld, motor with a rod knock ,vice grips forthe steering wheel, and 4 donut tires. and to tow/trailor it is going to cost a **** load of money for my friend who has a truck that only gets maybe 13mpg unloaded and isn't that reliable as is. thank you for the offer though
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well...i was thinkin of a trailer to come and get it...lol! and i have to admit, for some reason, i thought ID, meant indiana, though i know it's IN...brain fart i guess.
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your in georgia and I'm in idaho. lond way to drive a car ona blown rear end held together with jbweld, motor with a rod knock ,vice grips forthe steering wheel, and 4 donut tires. thank you for the offer though
What ever, people drive like that in Civics to save weight every day!
m66nova: I'll just take your word for it and say you were right. Although, just for the record, I thought that the highest amount of power was like 1,800whp out of a 1.5 liter. (If that even changes anything) I don't remember though. I'd have to find my "Maximum Boost" book and check with Corky Bell again.
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Originally Posted by stu
What ever, people drive like that in Civics to save weight every day!
let me tell ya what though as far as top fuel stuff goes, those guys are so limited to what they can do with fuel and stuff, there is SO much to be gained if they were allowed to do whatever they wanted...but they'd also be blowin' stuff up left and right.
and g()d help us if they were to allow turbo's back in...cause they make MUCH more efficient power...they'd have 3 second cars...and lots of dead drivers.
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and actually I think the most hp/L thing comes from engines that aren't even a L
check out some of the RC style motors.
you know somehting like .5-2ci and yet able sometimes to put out around 3-10hp.
check out some of the RC style motors.
you know somehting like .5-2ci and yet able sometimes to put out around 3-10hp.
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Originally Posted by mw66nova
well...i was thinkin of a trailer to come and get it...lol! and i have to admit, for some reason, i thought ID, meant indiana, though i know it's IN...brain fart i guess.
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