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Old Apr 27, 2006 | 12:10 PM
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since this thread has gotten way off subject i will switch gears again... Anybody see the PHR write up about the new turbo Ecotec GM will be using in the Cobalt and the Solstice? The turbo will have a better appeal than supercharging and its more efficient. It will be churning out 260HP and about 260TQ.... Thats 2.1hp per cubic inch!!!! They say the stock bottem end is good for 1500+ HP.... I think v-tec has a very equal opponent now... Look out SRT-4 too....
Im guessing 260hp in a solstice would be good for mid/low 13's... In a Hot looking car to boot..
Old Apr 27, 2006 | 12:15 PM
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Old Apr 27, 2006 | 12:22 PM
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Old Apr 27, 2006 | 03:09 PM
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Ummmm, anything with a turbo trounces VTEC already. I don't know why Honda refuses to boost one of their cars.
Old Apr 27, 2006 | 03:25 PM
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That car reminds me of the new Saturn Sky. Any body ever drive one or seen them around yet? Girlfriend works at the saturn dealership and said they are slow POSs.
Old Apr 27, 2006 | 03:44 PM
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Originally Posted by sasser43
That car reminds me of the new Saturn Sky. Any body ever drive one or seen them around yet? Girlfriend works at the saturn dealership and said they are slow POSs.
Because it's the same car. Next year they are coming out with a turbo version. I thought about it.....
Old Apr 27, 2006 | 03:51 PM
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It's understandable, you are kinda butt-hurt that you drive a 14 second ride. Don't be, a 14 sec ride is plenty fast for a daily driver. A human can sprint 1320' in a minute or less. Maybe the obesity epidemic has hit harder then I thought though.

You can turn a 20 second car into a 15 second car. It's still a slow car. You can 'hurl' 3400 lbs. of matter down a quarter mile track in 14 seconds too, but it doesn't make it fast. All of your friends can ride shotgun in your f-body and claim it to be, "like totally the fastest thing around!" It's still not fast. You can magically make a bone stock LO3 powered car run 13s, guess what, it's still not a fast car.

In most cases it all comes down to money and know-how. But don't be fooled by your butt-dyno or by your friends, you car isn't fast if it's turning 14 second timeslips.

Hell I daily drive a truck that runs high 14s (like 14.9s) to low low 15's. That's slower then a good portion of third-gens out there ( ), but in my opinion it is still fast enough for a daily driver...

Nah, my car probably runs high 15s if I'd have to guess. The point I was trying to make is that everyone has there own idea of what's "fast," it's all subjective. Sure, a 14 second car is not "as fast" as a 10 second car at all... but compared to a 16 second car it's fast. See where I am going with this?

And trust me, I'm not hurt at all over the power of my car. I hardly race it at all and I've never been to the track. I personally don't care how fast it is; I drive it because I like the car regardless of how fast it is.

PS - Someone who runs regularly could easily run it in less than a minute, but considering most of our country is on the verge of obesity like you said, I wouldn't count on most of the population being able to do that.
Old Apr 27, 2006 | 04:11 PM
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Originally Posted by sasser43
That car reminds me of the new Saturn Sky. Any body ever drive one or seen them around yet? Girlfriend works at the saturn dealership and said they are slow POSs.
Thinking about the content of this thread up to this point, I'll try to carefully word this

They turn 15.0s-15.3s stock, which is about as "fast" as an 305 TPI auto 3rdgen. Whether that is fast at all or not is apparently very much a matter of opinion, but I wouldn't go as far as to call them "slow POS's". Everything I've seen or read about them from the mags or owners suggest very good build quality, and I don't find 15.3s all that bad for a $19K N/A 4 cylinder. At 2800 lbs, and being RWD (and thus having weight transfer), I think a 260 hp Solstice will turn very low 13s with some good tires.
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They say the stock bottem end is good for 1500+ HP....
These Ecotecs are developed by Opel, and they're pretty stout. They share design with Opel racing motors, and they can take quite a beating. They're a wee bit better than your average Iron Duke.

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Old Apr 27, 2006 | 04:18 PM
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Because it's the same car. Next year they are coming out with a turbo version. I thought about it.....
Ah, I just looked it up and saw it was. I had only seen the sky from far off at the car lot
Old Apr 27, 2006 | 04:36 PM
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N/A? I thought they were all supercharged? If not it sounds like another stupid Chrysler Prowler money pit to me.
Old Apr 27, 2006 | 04:49 PM
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Originally Posted by 80smetalfan
Thinking about the content of this thread up to this point, I'll try to carefully word this

They turn 15.0s-15.3s stock, which is about as "fast" as an 305 TPI auto 3rdgen. Whether that is fast at all or not is apparently very much a matter of opinion, but I wouldn't go as far as to call them "slow POS's". Everything I've seen or read about them from the mags or owners suggest very good build quality, and I don't find 15.3s all that bad for a $19K N/A 4 cylinder.
I dont want the discussion to turn into this again but, all the car dealers are putting out sports cars that are quick and have high hp. Most ppl wanting to by a sports cars want something quick. And with all the other dealers putting out cars with 400hp, the sky is somewhat weak compared to them. But either way, i know nothing about the car and have only talked to the guys that work at the saturn dealer who took it for a test drive. They said they arent top quality cars and they wouldnt want to drive it. I see them as 40 yr old women driving them.

Though it is probably the best looking car saturn has ever put out.

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Old Apr 27, 2006 | 05:59 PM
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Ummmm, anything with a turbo trounces VTEC already. I don't know why Honda refuses to boost one of their cars.

stu they have put a turbo on one of their cars. only one that I know of. guess honda just doesn't like turbo's or know how to use them or something
Old Apr 27, 2006 | 06:04 PM
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Buy a Mallet Solstice. Solstice + LS2 = best of both worlds...
Old Apr 27, 2006 | 06:06 PM
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The article is very good. Supposedly, according to the writers(and through looking at the dyno graph) computer tuning will add a huge increase in power.

Very well designed engine. IIRC salt racers have used fairly stock ecotec motors in excess of 200 mph+.

Too bad the new miata is a superior vehicle in terms of performance.
Old Apr 27, 2006 | 06:21 PM
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Originally Posted by stu
Honestly, because this thread has sucked the whole time and this is a much more interesting topic. V6 Camaro? Whoop dee doo!
OK, but at least I didn't say I killed a LS1 or something that was stupid. I mean what do you expect? I own a LO3, its the little races that make me happy. I didn't know that you had to have 400,645,616,514 horsepower to post in this forum.
Old Apr 27, 2006 | 07:08 PM
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well you do so get used to it :-)


and once I post in a thread you either need to have a rotary or respect the rotary.



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Old Apr 27, 2006 | 08:38 PM
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stu they have put a turbo on one of their cars. only one that I know of. guess honda just doesn't like turbo's or know how to use them or something
I know, but it was the Honda City. They also have a turbo jet ski, and in 2007, the new Acura SUV comes out (basically the Acura version of the CRV) with a 2.3 liter turbo. They know how (remember F1 in the 80's?) they just like their image too much.
Old Apr 27, 2006 | 09:02 PM
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notice how far away we are from talking about a 3.8 camaro
Old Apr 27, 2006 | 10:53 PM
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I already explained why.
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