Me and my brother were driving down State Rd. 13 in St. Johns county (Jacksonville people knows where that is). I pulled up to a red light across from Sonic and I noticed a red 2001 Camaro V6 that sounded pretty good next to me. So we pulled into Sonic and ordered some drinks and he came over and asked me what I had under the hood. I told him a 305, nothing special. I then took a look at his car, he had a K&N and a catback with a 3800 series II V6, and a automatic. Very nice car. So we pulled back onto 13 and catch another red, (I think I was meant to run him). Green light, we take off, I pull him through first gear and when I hit second hes right at my door at thats the way it stayed till we shut down at 70, I wasn't pulling and he wasn't pulling but it was fun.

 

What kind of mods do you got man?

 

Nice kill! Those close races are the fun ones. Doesn't matter how fast you run, just as long as you run.

 

Open element, Jet stage 2 chip, full exhuast 3 inch.

 

And you were almost taken by a V6 fourthgen

lol

 

Do I need a tune? lol

 

With an LO3? always lol

 

I would love to have chip work done. I'm a newb to understanding that stuff so I would employ someone's services for that.

 

The close races are the most fun ones.

 

By no means is my car fast, I just like focusing on my exhaust note hitting his quarter panel so I could hear it. lol

 

Those V6s aren't slow compared to alot of cars. They'll run in the 15s without problems. Good kill haha

 

You know, i once saw a Pontiac Grand Prix GTP (supercharged 3800 engine) smoke a 4th gen Z28.... it was an LT1 though, but still.. those cars are no slouch.. sleepers.. my aunts 2004 Grand Prix GT will hang w/ my buddys 97 Mustang GT.. ( i wouldnt have raced it or anything though)

 

my uncle has got a 96 camaro with the 3.8 and a 5 speed and i just drove it 3 days ago and man those things arent slow id say the auto would be in the
LO3 range and the stick would just dominate an LO3

 

I saw a guy at Super Chevy run 13.5 with a stock 3.8. Massive wieght loss, 5 speed and 4.11s. No spray. I wanna know what else he had

 

wow i think i bought the wrong car.........

 

that Jet chip is probaby whats killing you..those off the shelf proms are absolute junk.

 

Is it just me, or is any motor that starts with "L" slow? Seriously, is that wrong?

 

LS7?

 

Oh yeah. Let me rephrase. Starts with an "L" came in a third gen?

 

i dont think my L98 is that slow

 

This is totaly true. i have compared a Hypertech "Stage 3" prom and the ARAP bin from Tunerpro.com and the ARAP is ALOT more aggressive.. and there are people who can back me up on that also..


92 Formula- If i were you, i'd get someone to burn you that ARAP bin into a prom. I'd do it but i dont know what all is involved for the Speed density.. the stuff i have is all set up for MAF.. I know that when i put in the Hypertech prom I felt a large gain over stock, and when i got rid of the hypertech and put in the ARAP.bin, it felt alot better too, as well as just made my car run better..

 

Theyre almost considered slow now with all these new cars. But I still think my L98 is fast too.

I can only imagine having a 3rd gen with a L98 when they were first put out, or even in the mid 90s. Not a lot of cars could have touched them.

 

Yeah, I've been drinking. I drive a 1990 Honda Accord that burns oil as regularly as Old Faithful. Don't pay attention to me tonight.

I <3 Thirdgen.org











Some one put that in their sig.

 

Cheeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeers!

 

By today's standards L98s aren't very fast. I can think of several cars off the top of my head that are grocery getters that have more hp.

Nothing that can't be fixed with mods though!

 

Relax guys, all third gens are fast lol why worry about anything?

 

Hey you have to realize, there are brand new cars that are cool, but slow as hell. At least ours were actually fast at one time. 14's was fast back in the 80's.

 

Exactly. Too many fast cars coming out.

 

If I could find someone willing to help, I would totally do it. I have no idea even where to begin, I read the thread on PROM tuning and its greek to me.

 

All an L98 needs is an XE276HR cam, performer RPM intake and a holley DP

That'll tear some **** up for sure

 

LC2??
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compared to your new family cars it is for quite a few of them at least stock for stock

 

first what the heck is it with the whole boro thing in the south? I work doing travel related stuff and I speak to a lot of people from the south. everyone of them lives in a somethingboro, greensboro, williamsboro, ashboro,


even in the mid 90's think quite a few cars where able to at least run with them :-)
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funny comming from a guy who drives a TBI :-p

 

I dunno about all thirdgens being fast, but they're definetly cool

 

Well, at least you can make them fast with relatively simple mods. Maybe not blistering fast, but most third gens could at least hit 14s with headers and a cam. Decent for just doing two mods.

 

you can easily get them in the 13's with tracion and a torque converter in addition to the headers and cam. my old 305 ran 13.0's on a consistant basis.

 

Ive never really thought about it but I guess youre right, everything is either boro or ville. Instead of Goldsboro we go by Gold City, because our biggest crew from here calls themselves Gold City Family.

There were a lot of cars just as fast and a lot that could beat them, but they werent grocery getters like today.

 

Hey stu let me ask you a question. I've viewed two posts today and both of them you had comments and both pertained to you bad mouthing the thirdgen camaro, may I ask what the **** your doing in here. And if you think anything with an "L" in the thirdgen was slow. L98's are not slow its all relative, remember these cars are atleaast 14yrs old. I think that anything with "honda" on it is slow and nerdy.
Also people use the term fast with reference to what they think is "fast". In the day of the third gens they were "fast" believe me. Back in those times 4 cylinders made 90hp and v6s made 110. Yes there are alot of new cars out today that are faster than the thirdgens that arent considered sports cars, but as time goes on the cars get faster and faster. Simply put they were from a time when performance was low, and they delivered awesome performance. If you had an IROC back in the day you were the ****. And Im confident in saying that they are some of the most handsome cars of all time. IMO

 

Awesome, thanks for the ramble Fruit_kake.



P.S.

In sixth grade if you had a slap braclet you were the ****.

Back in the 50's if you slicked your hair back and rolled a pack of cigarettes into your sleve you were the ****.

In the 20's and 30's if you did the Charleston you were the ****.

In the late 1700's if you owned a slave you were the ****.


I think I'll do all those things now because at one point they were awesome.

 

LOL

It's just a matter of Chevy coding all of their motors with L, so you've got some pretty nasty ones in there too.

L88 (435 hp Vette motor from the 60s)
LT1
LT4
LT5
LS1
LS2
LS4
LS7

But you have to throw the LG4, L03 and LU5 (I think that's the code for the almighty 305 CFI) to balance things out. It's kinda like CAFE regulations. IF Chevy only coded their good motors with 'L's, they'd be much too awesome. Thus the government requires that they code worthless motors with Ls as well (LQ8, anyone? 2 bbl IRON DUKE POWER!!) so that other companies do not become intimidated.


Errr...I think that's how it goes anyways...

 

I mentioned that they were cool back in the 80's, because I was trying to explain that you cannot compare them to the cars of today. Today the cars that are percieved as cool to the general public is much different. And your comparison to IROC's being cool in the 80's and different things you mentioned in other era's is irrelevant to this discussion and is an unfair comparison and if you are a mature adult you should know that. Furthermore you keep trying your hardest to put the thirdgen down, why are you even on here. If you dont like them dont come on here, I dont go to V-crap.org and talk about how hondas dont have horsepower.

 

Who ever said I don't like third gens? You only don't go to a honda board because you wouldn't know how to find one, and you wouldn't last two secongs there.

 

It seems that you dont like them, since we've been discussing these topics here and on the other post, I havent seen one post that seemed even remotely positive toward thirdgens. Yea I know it would be so hard to find a honda forum wouldnt it, gosh.. I wonder if I googled it, would anyting come up ?? Nahh afterall hondas are only for the hardcore streetricers. A poor V-8 guy like me wouldnt know anything about applying decals and 10k tachs. LOL your a really pathetic guy. Im outta here cause youve continually proven that your heads is somwhere below your waist, and there is no point for it to go on any further.

 

That whole post made me spit out my soda, thanks alot stu

 

Come on guys lol they are ALL fast dont shoot down any of them I even named my RS= Rocket Ship so people would shut up at school lol.

 

LMFAO @ anybody arguing that anything slower then an 11 sec pass is "fast" for a street car

 

so my 12.1 pass pedalling it out of the hole...that was a fast pass, or no?

 

No sorry. Try again. You have to hit 11s to be fast in a thirdgen.

 

two cars easily come to mind with the honda name

S2000 and NSX. being both are at least on par with the l98 if not one of them being a little faster then the l98 and one of them being around I think the same time the l98 was I take your words to infact verify the l98 is slow.


thank you


what are you talking about you just bad mouthed the thirdgen by saying it was slow.

kids these days




well I'm off to go find a factory turbo honda. woot woot
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will you quit bad mouthing the thirdgen if you want to be here. I know of a few hondas that have just as much horsepower as the thirdgen and yet you keep talking about how the thirdgen is great yet bash the honda for it's lack of power.


make up your mind

 

well now thank you for the nice insult there. I know my honda is that great but lets see you try to play with what I have.
since I have my rx7 back up and running I'm now working on ricing out my honda with a DFV webber. also working out a deal with a friend right now (depends on how many six packs he wants) to help out with fabbing up a header for my car since the whole two exhuast ports going into one big box kinda sucks. just picked up a turbo from a dodge daytona when I went shopping for some more parts for the rx7. figured I would need that for my friend to help with the header for it. trying to replace the head with a canadian style head for the accord to get rid of the 3bbl setup which should help compliment the weber a little better . the weber is sitting right now with some other parts for either the rx7 or the honda. only thing stopping me from putting it on their right now is either I need that head which would be nice but can't seem to find one. parts for this car are not easy to find. so I might just need to go with the intake adaptor :\


but here I go ricing the car out right?


if your curious what I'm ricing take a look for the cvcc accord with the ef1. what a ricers dream

 

My favorite part was the first sentance.

"I just read 2 of your 1,400 posts and determined something or other blah blah blah blah."

LOL, what a laugh riot!