well i have an 85 sport coupe with a 2.8v6 all new sensors 3.73 posi from an 89 formula a rebuilt 700r4 w/ shift kit and all the "free mods" i could do to it and my friend has an all stock 04 gt with a 5spd. ive raced him once from a 15mph roll and pulled 3 cars on him then he cuaght up and beat me by about 5 links ( raced till 65) and what i was wondering if u guys think i could take him with a 75-100 shot of nitrous or if i should wait till i get my new motor in (69 cadillac 472 375 hp 550ft/lbs STOCK) also my dad has 2 t-type regal turbos and an intercooler in his garage he might let me "borrow" for a while.....
let me know what u guys think.
Tahnks,
Kevin R.
BTW my friend isnt a very good driver......

 

ahah....your v6 will never take his gt. sorry. 100shot might help if you dont blow the motor.

 

the 2.8 sucks had one built mpi with cam and heads ported still not that fast wait till you get the caddy

 

with dope you'll be mid-high 14's...not fast enogh, sorry

 

[QUOTE=thirdgencaddy] ive raced him once from a 15mph roll and pulled 3 cars on him then he cuaght up and beat me by about 5 links ( raced till 65) QUOTE]

Sorry this race is impossible to believe. You were going 15 mph, both floored it, you pulled 3 cars, and then he walked around you and pulled back 5 cars... ALL by 65 mph. Why lie or post about races that basically cannot happen. And if it did go down that way, you have an extremely slow car, and a 100 shot is only going to make him win by a little less.

 

I agree, your story makes no sense. If you raced a gt from a roll to 65 in your v-6 he woulda whomped you

 

wait for the 472 and then put the 100 shot on it. And pray for your drivetrain, because it will be going to meet it's maker.

 

What's the difference between a car and a link?


Don't bother trying to boost the Caddy motor, I can tell already that if you actually do get that motor in, it will be more than you can handle anyway.

 

Maybe he is thinking of "lengths"

 

I don't believe that there is much "thinking" going on in this story at all actually.

 

 

welll...he did say his friend couldnt drive..maybe he has ADD too? forgot what was goin on oh man 3 cars then he floored and and caught up..... a caddy engine in a thirdgen should be interesting

 

I think it would be freakin sweet because I love odd swaps like that (especially if a big block is involved), but bone stock it will be waaaaay too much torque for a V6 car. I'm fairly confident that a 472 would obliterate an untouched stock V8 thirdgen drivetrain, from tranny to axle. 375hp/525 lb-ft before any of the modding starts.

 

A swap to a caddy engine isn't worth the effort. There's alot of custom work involved. I wouldn't even be able to swap in a late 70's caddy 350 without some work.

BTW, those numbers are gross numbers. Probably closer to 310 hp/425 tq sae net flywheel hp or somewhere thereabouts.

As for the maker of the thread, your story sucked, your car is slow and you'll never do the swap.

 

Yeah I know. I don't know if it would lose 100 lb-ft.

Though the story isn't very credible, if you acquire a Cadillac tranny with your 472, the swap wouldn't be that bad. As long as practicality isn't an issue, I think it would be pretty neat to have a BB Caddy in a 3rd gen. Unique for sure.

 

My buddy has a big block Caddy motor in a Scout, that thing was cool.

 

sorry i didnt clarify why i pulled on him. he is a crappy driver and almost killed his car when he missed second but he killed me after he got it back together....

 

Stop talking bull ****, get a real motor. That big block will murder your puny 10 bolt, and twist the whole chassis. If you want something that will run with that newer gt and wont drive downt he road sideways would be either
a)Turbo the 2.8, get a strong clutch
b)Swap in a basic 350 with a 5 speed
c)Buy a chevy 400 sbc, mildly built is can make those caddy numbers easy yet save 200 lbs thats the bbc would add in gluttony. Hope this helps.

 

I don't see you putting the caddy engine in in the next 5 years.

 

472 in a 3rd gen does sound like one of those oddball projects that never seems to come together. Swaps like that can suck, cause once you get in over your head, you start getting tempted to give up. I see that happen a lot with 3rd gen owners, except it's more like "I'm going to build a H/C/I L98 and keep it EFI" and once things get tricky or start to break, they bail and get a 4th gen.

 

A big block caddy in a 3rd gen is almost as difficult as putting a 400SBC in a Datsun 510. Do-able, but will require a lot of time/patience/colorful words/serious modification.

This story is clearly My 3.8L V6 in my 4th Gen is only about 1/2 a car length faster than 99 Mustang V6. And that can be chalked up to driver ability. There is no way in heaven or hell that your 2.8L V6 will ever pull on a GT, from a roll or a stop. Irreguards to weither that mustang is a 5.0L or a 4.6L. If you'd said it was a camaro SC with a L98 in it, it might have been more palatable. Nice job, you fooled nobody.

The 472 in the 3rd gen will most likely never happen either. If you're telling the truth about the Turbocharged Buick 231 you might get to "borrow", that'd be a more practical way to go... Its not as heavy as a V8 which means you could potentially retain your stock suspension. Possibly your motor mounts. You'd have a Turbo Camaro..That in itself is pretty remarkable. Plus, You'd be looking at numbers almost on par with a LT1 4th gen Camaro. Which means you could probably still school most of your civic driving wanna-be R--er friends, and they won't even be able to give you s--t for having a V8.

Good luck!

 

lol you put three lengths on him hahaha, he could just think about flooring it next to you and you would be 3 lengths back.

all

 

Very true.

04 GTs are teh slow, but V6 camaros are among the slowest cars I've ever ridden in