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Old May 16, 2006 | 03:45 PM
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Today at school a me and a couple guys decided to race i was in my 89 RS V6 mustang and an 04 Type r civic hatch. We all leave school head out there is this long straight road not to far away but they decided to race on the highway I wasnt gonna do it so i just followed them to see who would win. At the time I was roughly doing 110mph and they were pullin on me. We came up to this sweeping left hander and the civic lost control. He spun hit the gaurd rail and flipped 4 or 5 times across the road and landed on the other side. Me and the mustang had to drive through the debris on the road then we slammed on our brakes pulled over and ran to the civic. The driver was getting out hhis eye was bleeding a lil bit and his hand got caught under the car when it rolled and mest it up pretty good. The passanger was alright. I just thank god things wernt worse.
Old May 16, 2006 | 04:01 PM
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DUR!

"Yeah, lets take a car that has NO handling capabilities and throw it into a turn at 100mph and see how many times we can flip it...YEAH LETS DO IT"

You guys are ****ing idiots. I don't feel sorry one bit.
Old May 16, 2006 | 04:04 PM
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DUR!

"Yeah, lets take a car that has NO handling capabilities and throw it into a turn at 100mph and see how many times we can flip it...YEAH LETS DO IT"

You guys are ****ing idiots. I don't feel sorry one bit.
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Old May 16, 2006 | 04:17 PM
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Good work...

Kids make mistakes right. How come everyone hasent wrapped their car around a pole, or rolled it 14 times around a bend in a highway. Stupid immature people ruin it for the rest of us!
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Old May 16, 2006 | 04:25 PM
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Everyone wrecks, I won't hate on you for being there, but that's why people stress to take it to the track over and over.

P.S. There is no such thing as a Type R Civic in the states (ever), let alone that year.

P.S.S. To say that the Civic had no handling capabilities is stupid. It's pretty obvious that it was just driver error.
Old May 16, 2006 | 04:32 PM
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Darwin will take care of you street racers, hopefully before you kill someones mother or child.
Old May 16, 2006 | 04:34 PM
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You guys earned that one. There are no public roads in the Golden Triangle (Beaumont, Orange, Port Arthur) where it is safe to drive like that. No public roads anywhere, really.

Take it to the track.
Old May 16, 2006 | 04:42 PM
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I have taken a hard right turn @ 100 in my iroc and I will never do it again. But, in a civic..

Stu dont defend it in stock form they kinda suck. Modded I'll say alright but stock,, well my only accident was in a front wheel drive car..
Old May 16, 2006 | 04:57 PM
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My whole post was pretty much that point. The driver is a tool for taking a civic and pushing that fast obviously showing he doesn't have much experience. Even though the civic doesn't really handle all that well, it was more so directed at the idiot behind the wheel
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Im glad your friends ok, hopefully he'll learn from his mistake.
Old May 16, 2006 | 05:23 PM
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Well at least everyone is okay. Say that passenger would have been killed, the driver could have been charged with murder. When your racing around please Don't bring passengers because its usually them who die and you have to live with that for the rest of your life when your behind bars.

Do this at the race track!
Old May 16, 2006 | 05:37 PM
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Theres a time and place for that stuff. And that wasn't it. Obviously he didn't know the road to well.
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Originally Posted by stu
Everyone wrecks, I won't hate on you for being there, but that's why people stress to take it to the track over and over.

P.S. There is no such thing as a Type R Civic in the states (ever), let alone that year.

P.S.S. To say that the Civic had no handling capabilities is stupid. It's pretty obvious that it was just driver error.

A civic has no driving capabilities, they are to ugly small and not that wide and are made for old ladys.
Old May 16, 2006 | 05:46 PM
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A civic has no driving capabilities, they are to ugly small and not that wide and are made for old ladys.
Now theres an intelligent post. Apparently aesthetics effects "driving capabilities"?

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I'm sure the 15+ year old bushings and tie rods in your camaros are safe.
Ever see a tire blow out at high speed?
You guys are missing the point.
Old May 16, 2006 | 05:59 PM
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I'm sure the 15+ year old bushings and tie rods in your camaros are safe.
Ever see a tire blow out at high speed?
You guys are missing the point.
they are 17 years old
Old May 16, 2006 | 06:10 PM
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I'm sure the 15+ year old bushings and tie rods in your camaros are safe.
Ever see a tire blow out at high speed?
You guys are missing the point.
Not yet Im lucky.. H rated tires doing 140-150mph... yeah I know (back when I was 17, thought they were Z's at the time)

Yeah come think about it anything breaking at that speed would really suck ***..
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Well at least everyone is okay. Say that passenger would have been killed, the driver could have been charged with murder. When your racing around please Don't bring passengers because its usually them who die and you have to live with that for the rest of your life when your behind bars.

Do this at the race track!
In Illinois they can charge anyone involved including the people in the other car and those just "tagging along to watch" think about how your life will be after being convicted of some degree of Manslaughter............ that is if you were not the one killed.....glad you learned a lesson and no one was seriously hurt please spread your new knowledge with the rest of your peers
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Race at the track, because atleast if you wreck there they have medics on standyby usually as well as a zillion people in the stands to help you out. My brakes went out on my geo prizm and I did a 60 mph 2 wheeler, pretty damn scary.
Old May 16, 2006 | 07:24 PM
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You guys are ******. dude yeah they are dumb for doing that, but he just told you a story that really upset him and he watched his friends get hurt and you start bashing him? Now who's being immature. People make mistakes, just hope they learn from them.
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I remember, years back, the midnight street drags we had on strips tucked inside industrial areas. One straight away just so happened to have a sharp left turn at the end of it with a ravine that dropped 10 ft and a field that extended about 200 ft in.

We had a late 60'ish Camaro make a run against an '80'ish Malibu. All I remember was seeing that Camaro go off that bend and down into the ravine.

The driver was unbelievably allright.

But I can still see that poor Camaro, about 80 ft in, on it's crushed roof....wheels still spinning.
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You guys are ******...People make mistakes, just hope they learn from them.
I hope no one makes a "mistake" with someone you love.

Everytime you douche bags street race you play russian roulette with peoples lives.
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It's 1 thing to play around, withing a safe amount, but at 100+mph, i don't care if your in a ferarri, thats not safe. I hope your friend has his license stripped for a long time.

And I hope you've learned from this experience.
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You people are jack asses. He learned his lesson and hopefully so did his friends along with other ppl at the school. None of you are perfect drivers and im sure all of you have almost lost it before, his friend just wasnt able to hold on to it. If you must street race, dont go that fast. 0 to 90 is plenty.
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Everytime you douche bags street race you play russian roulette with peoples lives.
Wrong. Some of us actually do it in a safe manner.

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You people are jack asses. He learned his lesson and hopefully so did his friends along with other ppl at the school. None of you are perfect drivers and im sure all of you have almost lost it before, his friend just wasnt able to hold on to it. If you must street race, dont go that fast. 0 to 90 is plenty.
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Wrong. Some of us actually do it in a safe manner.
This has to be the most idiotic statement ever on this board. To say you do it safe shows you have absolutely no regard to the SAFETY OF OTHERS on the road. 0-90 is plenty fast enough to kill someone who may turn in front of you because they're assuming your going the speed limit. 7 people in one family were killed in my area last spring from 2 morons like you when 1 of them broadsided the van they were in. There speed was approx. 70 mph.They never made it to see their daughter graduate a block away.
To say you do it safe shows you're only thinking of yourself & everyone else should know to keep out of your way. Not to be harsh, but it's scum like you that destroy lives!
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This has to be the most idiotic statement ever on this board. To say you do it safe shows you have absolutely no regard to the SAFETY OF OTHERS on the road. 0-90 is plenty fast enough to kill someone who may turn in front of you because they're assuming your going the speed limit. 7 people in one family were killed in my area last spring from 2 morons like you when 1 of them broadsided the van they were in. There speed was approx. 70 mph.They never made it to see their daughter graduate a block away.
To say you do it safe shows you're only thinking of yourself & everyone else should know to keep out of your way. Not to be harsh, but it's scum like you that destroy lives!

chill the f out. when i said some of us do it safely, i meant on back roads that are dead straights with no houses and no intersections. tends to be a lot of that in NC. i didnt say go 0-90 safely through somewhere in the city.

therefore the only persons life i could put in danger is mine or the other persons that is racing. but theyre willing to take the risk, just like im taking one on if he lost control and hit me.

Also: Ppl have also been known to do it safely on old air strips. They just have to watch out for the families in their minivans taking a nice family drive down the abandoned air strip

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^^^What a ****ing moron. I see a darwin award coming your way in the future.
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Please tell me which statement was moronic that I made. Let me guess, the families on the air strip comment? Its only moronic b/c you cant find anything thats not safe about it to say other than in regard to the drivers.

BTW, those are good books.

Edit: To get this topic back on track so it doesnt have to get locked, the point is that the guys learned their lesson and hopefully wont be street racing 100+ plus on the highways anymore. And all im saying is, if you feel you must street race, do it at a place where innocent ppl wont get hurt. Ive done it myself a few times, but Ive stopped and now just do it on remote roads.

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And all im saying is, if you feel you must street race, do it at a place where innocent ppl wont get hurt.
I guess you dont have a mother or father or siblings or friends or maybe the guy your racing parents that "wont be hurt" when you kill yourself or him.........pretty self centered statement
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DUR!

"Yeah, lets take a car that has NO handling capabilities and throw it into a turn at 100mph and see how many times we can flip it...YEAH LETS DO IT"

You guys are ****ing idiots. I don't feel sorry one bit.
Um, the stock Civic Type R will out handle your car. dude probably had an EX or DX, not sure how well those handle though, priobably like a boat.

and I don't see a V6 stang or Civic pulling away quickly from you if you are at 110mph (unless they are both modded and yours is still slow).

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I guess you dont have a mother or father or siblings or friends or maybe the guy your racing parents that "wont be hurt" when you kill yourself or him.........pretty self centered statement
Wow, TGO has turned into dr phil online. We should say this to everyone who post their street races instead of telling them good job. Its a risk. Just like racing at a track would be just a big of a risk, except you dont hit a ditch, you hit a wall. You dont think that would hurt a family just as bad? No one goes and talks crap to those guys when they post their races. Oh wait, they have a medical crew already on the scene. Too bad that still doesnt make that big of a difference. Unless your car catches on fire.
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Wow when was the last time you saw someone wear safety equipment and go through inspection then have a totally controlled environment in a street race......you really don't get it do you?
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1) I wish PsychoCamaro would wreck his car doing 110 miles an hour.

2) Hey RedTopCamaro: A Civic just crashed doing 110 mph and two people survived, does that mean that Civics are better than Mustangs?

3) The reason people are so harsh on street racers is because of the seriousness of the offense. There are countless people who didn't survive from their "lesson." If it was something like building a boosted motor and blowing up, people could stand to go easier on the "student." When "lessons" take lives however, there is nothing wrong with being harsh. Not a single person in this thread is any more harsh than life itself and the consequences of actions like these.

Just some things to keep in mind, especially #1.
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Um, the stock Civic Type R will out handle your car. dude probably had an EX or DX, not sure how well those handle though, priobably like a boat.
There is no such thing as a Civic Type R in the states, EVER. Second, I doubt it would out handle his car. Probably about the same.

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wow when was the last time you saw someone wear safty equipment and go through inspection then have a totaly controled enviroment in a street race......you really don't get it do you?
Ah, do you think most ppl that go to the track who arent serious drag racers do any of that stuff? Nope. They dont have to have anything done unless they are at a certian ET, and stock 3rd gens will def not meet that ET. None where safety equipment on open runs unless they have an extremely fast car. Whats so much more controled about it than a remote air strip? Nothing. Just as many things can go over that 3 foot wall as can things cross a ditch and get on the road.
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Or maybe you would like to compare the number of deaths last year on the track compared to the number in street races.....then add in the others not involved that also died as a result of street racing!

I think you make your own point of moronic!
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you dont go to the track much do you

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THIS IS A STREET RACING BOARD!!!!! WHAT ABOUT THAT DON'T YOU UNDERSTAND. 99% OF THE PEOPLE ON HERE DO IT. YOU HAVE A PROBLEM WITH IT GOOD FOR YOU BUT DON'T COME HERE AND EXPECT PEOPLE TO NOT BE DOING IT, ITS CALLED THE STREET RACING AND THEORETICAL BOARD FOR A REASON. NO ONE EVER SAID IT WAS SMART OR SAFE AND I'M NOT SAYING IT IS EITHER BUT THE BOARD IS WHAT IT IS.
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Or maybe you would like to compare the number of deaths last year on the track compared to the number in street races.....then add in the others not involved that also died as a result of street racing!

I think you make your own point of moronic!
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you dont go to the track much do you
THAT HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH WHAT IM TALKING ABOUT. How many times have i said remote roads? Add those death and I promise you it will be about the same or even less than organized drag racing. exactly. you cant come up with anything so you keep going back to moron street racers who race in the middle of a city.
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Last time I checked, the drag strip was pretty straight and you most likely wear a helmet if you are travelling 100mph.

Remote roads are dangerous as well if they have trees alongside of the raod.
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Last time I checked, the drag strip was pretty straight and you most likely wear a helmet if you are travelling 100mph.
I do over 100 at the track and I dont wear a helmet. neither do the other ppl in stock cars.
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Originally Posted by sasser43
I do over 100 at the track and I dont wear a helmet. neither do the other ppl in stock cars.
is that a sanctioned track? NHRA/IHRA? the tracks here require helemts for 13.99 or faster, which if you trap in the 13's you are very close if not over 100mph.

I was reading somewhere that they may start having all participants wear helmets, and possibly a fire suit, regardless of track speed of your car.
Old May 16, 2006 | 10:58 PM
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Originally Posted by Zepher
Remote roads are dangerous as well if they have trees alongside of the raod.
just as dangerous as a hard wall right beside you huh? The only thing the wall has going for it is that it protects spectators and its very hard to hit it dead on.
Old May 16, 2006 | 10:58 PM
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Originally Posted by sasser43
THAT HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH WHAT IM TALKING ABOUT. How many times have i said remote roads? Add those death and I promise you it will be about the same or even less than organized drag racing. exactly. you cant come up with anything so you keep going back to moron street racers who race in the middle of a city.
Yep your right .....never mind...........good luck and god speed

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Old May 16, 2006 | 11:02 PM
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Originally Posted by sasser43
just as dangerous as a hard wall right beside you huh? The only thing the wall has going for it is that it protects spectators and its very hard to hit it dead on.
I'd rather scrape the wall than hit a tree.
this is what I did at about 90mph into the guardrail a couple of years ago,


Old May 16, 2006 | 11:09 PM
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Originally Posted by Zepher
I'd rather scrape the wall than hit a tree.
this is what I did at about 90mph into the guardrail a couple of years ago,
Looks like you took a good hit. And that car is my favorite TA ever, right down to the color. Its just a matter if you hit the wall with the side or if you curve way out and go back in to it(usually happens with funny cars or top fuel dragsters). Either way, remote roads are a lot safer than city racing or highway races at 100+ and your not putting ppl in danger.
Old May 16, 2006 | 11:11 PM
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The civic was a SI with just type R badges. They were pullin on me becuase a was holding steady at 110. The only reason me n the mustang didnt crash is becuase we got had on the brakes when he started to loose it BTW does ne one know if it is easy to get antifreeze off my hood cause it got sprayed pretty good?
Old May 16, 2006 | 11:18 PM
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Originally Posted by sasser43
Looks like you took a good hit. And that car is my favorite TA ever, right down to the color. Its just a matter if you hit the wall with the side or if you curve way out and go back in to it(usually happens with funny cars or top fuel dragsters). Either way, remote roads are a lot safer than city racing or highway races at 100+ and your not putting ppl in danger.
sliding sideways while hitting the guardrail lessened the impact and I did a 360 while sliding and tappped the rear on the guardrail as well. airbags didn't deploy which is good since no one had thier seatbelts on. My buddy in the back seat broke his nose on the pass side seat back as he was holding on and when we hit, his face hit the back of the seat. this was on the highway and I wasn't racing, *** end spun out hard during a shift and I couldn't counter-steer enough.
would you believe that that was $6700 in damage, that's $300 more than I paid for the car in 2001.



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