Well guys, my father car is just about done and we want to race. hopefully someone out there knows a few things about fords and can help dictate the outcome of the race.

1987 IROC 350 700R4 3.27 Bone stock
VS
1973 Ford Gran Torino
351 Cleveland
2V heads 2.04in/1.65ext
comp 230/230, .530/.530 110LSA
Cobra Jet Intake
Holley 650DP
1 3/4 full length headers
true dual 2.5in exhaust with glasspacks
Hurst 4 speed
3.25 Trac-loc
265/50/16s

Car is somewhat lightened since there isn't much interior left, just a dash and 2 front seats.

What do you guys think?

 

I would put money on the Torino, unfortunatly.

The cam alone would be a hard choice, let alone he has aftermarket heads/exhaust/intake.

 

I would say that the Torino would win. Your car is worth mid-low 14s and the Torino is worth more then 300hp for sure.I don't know how well those heads flow but a chevy 350 with something like say 882 heads and that cam would be worth 350+hp with that cam.Thats a pretty healthy cam.It should lope pretty good.I knew a guy in high school who had an ugly 73-74 mustang with a 351 that just had stock ported heads, a very mild aftermarket cam (didn't lope),headers and performer intake and he ran 14.2.Do the heads have any work done to them and what is the compression ratio of the motor? I don't know enough about the heads to tell you how much hp.The could flow pretty bad but that is a good healthy cam and the cobra intake is pretty good if it is the old 60s model your talking about or is it the new ford motorsports intake,which is even better?With that much cam I would have ran a bigger carb but a 650 should work.Can't be for sure but I would say it could very well be a solid 13 second car if it makes 300+hp.

 

How is your car bone stock? Don't you have some aftermarket intake parts installed along with an exhaust?

 

Sorry I am confused.I have a zz4 or are you talking about the guy I knew in high school who had the 70s mustang or are you talking about my car?Are you replying to waax?I never said my car is bone stock?My bad I just saw iroc and am not paying attention to the full member name.I guess this is my last beer?

 

*confused*

 

you said your car was bone stock in the first post. I believe it will be a close race , as the turino is a heavy car to begine with.
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opps wrong person doah !

 

Dont count the IROC out just yet, if the Torino has a stock suspension you could get a good jump and maybe hold him off through a 1/4 mile. After that he might pull away from you.

 

I haven't been on in a while, I didn't realize that those parts were still listed. I have since then sold all my aftermarket stuff and im keeping this one 100% original. I even run paper filters and stock exhaust now.

Clevelands are notorious for great heads. Even smog 2v heads have 2.04in/1.65 exhaust valves with generous ports. The 4v heads have montrous 2.19/1.7xex valves.

Its running somewhere between 8.7/9.3 compression, somewhat low, but i havent checked the head casting yet.

Also note the torino is pretty gutted, prob around 3800 lbs, it has no options whatsoever. It was origninally a Cobra Jet car. As for the suspension, it has KYB Gas Shocks and its been lowered 2 inches and has some sort of fabbed up torque boxes.

He's got some 3.89 gears on order

 

That Torino has a ridiculous mismatch of parts. I'd be surprised if it got out of the 15's.

 

I agree with you. For 1, the intake and heads do not line up AT ALL, the ports on the CJ intake are massive compared to the 2v heads. For 2, the cam is in the 2000rpm-6000rpm range, whereas he prob makes peak power somewhere around 5000rpm.

I would say if hes going to run the 2v heads, get an edel intake made for 2v heads, get a holley 750, drop the duration on the cam a bit and make up alot of the lost torque.

Run a 270h cam, single plan for 2v heads with a holley 650-750 cfm, keep his current exhaust and bump up the compression alot by going to so early casting Quench heads.

Or if he wants to use that cam, get some 4v heads, ditch the cj intake and go with a single plane intake and a holley 850.

the cam is killing his torque, and when he finally gets the revs up, the intake is holding him back.

What do you suggest as a 351c/351m combo?