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Old Dec 16, 2006 | 07:05 PM
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Need some help....Quick!!!!

some dude from my old school just offered to race me in a 1/4 mile for 250$. i have a 1987 trans am 5.0 v8 with nothing else installed excepct for a new exhaust system but runs very good. Hes got a 07 mustang gt stock mith nothin installed. i need to know if i can beat him and please hurry up hes meating me in 10 minutes. this is only my second race so give me some info
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Old Dec 16, 2006 | 07:11 PM
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no, he'll walk away from you.
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Old Dec 16, 2006 | 07:16 PM
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you dont think that i have a chance? i am a good driver and he just got his licence
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Old Dec 16, 2006 | 07:25 PM
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I had a 5.0 in my camaro a few years ago, and it had head work, exhaust, cam, Holley 600 carb, HEI and I could barely hang with a 99 stock GT. I only put a fender on him and this was on the interstate from a good second gear roll. Run him and find out, just giving you my .02 on it.
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Old Dec 16, 2006 | 07:38 PM
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thanks alot man, he didnt show anyway but do you have any suggestions for me, i want to get more off the line speed and torque and improve my 0-60 but cash is kinda short now. i got like 325$ i might be able to do a little more but thats it... any ideas
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Old Dec 16, 2006 | 07:43 PM
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you wouldnt have a snowballs chance in hell of beating him, unless he stalls or crashes
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Old Dec 16, 2006 | 07:44 PM
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thanks alot man, he didnt show anyway but do you have any suggestions for me, i want to get more off the line speed and torque and improve my 0-60 but cash is kinda short now. i got like 325$ i might be able to do a little more but thats it... any ideas
A rear gear would help your 0-60. Something like a 3.73 would give you more low end, and still be streetable on the highway. My 87 305 had a quadrabog on it, so I replaced it with a Holley 600 with vaccum secondaries with an Edelbrock performer intake and a HEI distributor and that helped it alot.
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Old Dec 16, 2006 | 07:47 PM
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Ya i know this now but i need some suggestions on how to make my trans ams 0-60 alot and give it more horsepower... enough to beat this kid next week
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thanks alot man, do think that the 305 trans am is a fast car by itslef? enough to beat some crappy imports

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Old Dec 16, 2006 | 07:59 PM
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Ya i know this now but i need some suggestions on how to make my trans ams 0-60 alot and give it more horsepower... enough to beat this kid next week
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thanks alot man, do think that the 305 trans am is a fast car by itslef? enough to beat some crappy imports
You would have trouble with some of the imports too. I mean you could bust a bone stock civic, but a stock 5.0 TA isnt that quick, we're talking mid to high 9's in the 1/8th mile. Get down in the 8.50 range before you go jump on an 07 GT, or any GT for that matter.
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Old Dec 16, 2006 | 08:07 PM
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Would a good exhaust system help me out cause im thinkin of gettin one tommmorow. i also want some different peformance parts so i can bust this guy down next time, im mainly focused on the initial take off from the start cause thats were i lacking. what can i buy to help there that is easy to install?
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Old Dec 16, 2006 | 09:24 PM
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your not going to do it with 325 dollars i would recommend you just give him the 250 and not get your pride hurt
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Old Dec 17, 2006 | 08:07 AM
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For $325, you are not going to feel much of a difference with anything you do. Unless you decide to buy a used nitrous kit and throw that on. But, that could cost you more in the long run. You could do suspension mods, but you still won't feel much of a difference in take off, because you not making the power to actually need those mods. Take you $325 and put it towards something cool that you want for the car and not something that your hoping/praying will turn that little 305 into a monster. Or better yet save the $325 for something bigger.
I would do gears or suspension mods to make it handle the twisties even better. -Nick.
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Old Dec 17, 2006 | 08:10 AM
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you wouldnt have a snowballs chance in hell of beating him, unless he stalls or crashes
LoL that made me laugh out loud...
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Old Dec 17, 2006 | 03:16 PM
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Nitrous nitrous nitrous!
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Old Dec 17, 2006 | 04:34 PM
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Nitrous nitrous nitrous!
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Old Dec 18, 2006 | 09:30 PM
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Even with the juice that's not a guarantee. You're outmatched man, just let it go.
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Old Dec 19, 2006 | 05:34 PM
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I cant let it go, if you knew this guy you would want to whoop him too so give me a brake.
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Old Dec 19, 2006 | 05:44 PM
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I cant let it go, if you knew this guy you would want to whoop him too so give me a brake.
Step 1: Find someone with a car faster than his and offer to fill his tank to let you borrow it.

Step 2: Race the jackass in the mustang.

Step 3: Profit
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Old Dec 19, 2006 | 05:48 PM
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youve watched too many episodes of "PINKS". I've got a 93 TA with a LT1, 6spd, custom burned PROM programmed on the dyno, long tubes, ac delete. all this and i can barely beat the newer Rustangs. I love my car too much to put nitrous on it. keep your money in your pocket. or **** it away. Youve heard it from more than 1 person..
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Old Dec 19, 2006 | 07:20 PM
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youve watched too many episodes of "PINKS". I've got a 93 TA with a LT1, 6spd, custom burned PROM programmed on the dyno, long tubes, ac delete. all this and i can barely beat the newer Rustangs. I love my car too much to put nitrous on it. keep your money in your pocket. or **** it away. Youve heard it from more than 1 person..

I agree. Plus, don't encourage a 16 year old with zero seat time behind a 300+hp car to race. That is stupid. You will both be setting yourselves up for a future "man I can't believe that happened" moment. That is if one of you doesn’t kill yourself. Keep racing to the track where they have a crew, ambulance, smooth road with no people, traffic, or kids running across, and no cops to bust you. Not to mention, when you beat someone on the 1320 you get a little piece of paper for proof and bragging rights. Your car is no match for his. Don't make my insurance premiums higher than they already are by being an idiot on the streets.
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Old Dec 19, 2006 | 07:52 PM
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well put there ShiftyCapone..
and you have no chance in hell to beat the mustang.. the only way to beat him is if he stalls.. which is not likely to happen when you are racing..
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Old Dec 19, 2006 | 08:38 PM
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I cant let it go, if you knew this guy you would want to whoop him too so give me a brake.
That would be spelled BREAK.

Seriously though, you're out classed and out muscled in this race. $350 or whatever you had to spend won't save you.
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Old Dec 20, 2006 | 11:00 AM
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Hook the nitrious up, like stated above. 200 shot at the least. Rip out your whole interior, use a 5 gal. bucket to sit on. Any other weight reduction you can do will only help(possibly remove the rear hatch for the race. Cut the exhaust off before the cat!! Take you air filter off. Hook up some buckets full of old oil under your rear bumper rigged with a zip cord, once you get the jump on him from the line.......pull the zip cord. You should be able to do this all for $350.

OR

Like we all said tell the guy to "bugger off" and leave it at that. Later in life when you have a faster car, look the guy up. It will be worth the wait, especially when he is driving a mini-van.
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Old Dec 20, 2006 | 04:40 PM
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I barely pull on the mustangs with my 350 and the mods ive done to it..

You really do not have a chance against him. You will be kicking yourself in the face when you loose 250 dollars because you didnt want to listen to us.
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Old Dec 31, 2006 | 08:15 PM
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Well heres what went down, me and this kid went down to my local track and just messed around. he actually ended up bein pretty cool. we raced once and he beet me but let me tell you he only had me by 1 car length.We didnt race for money either. Im just startin to get into this racin and its alot of fun. Theres a group of guys i met at the track who told me to come back next week and race for fun, heres what they got,
1. a pontiac g6 stock 06
2. a volkswagon gti with a couple of cheap mods 97
3. a 2001 v6 stock cammaro
4. a civic with a new exhaust and suspension system, basicly stock
5. and a mazda rx-8
thats really it so can somebody give me some predictions on those races with my 87 v8 305 tpi trans am with a suspension package
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Old Dec 31, 2006 | 10:38 PM
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that just proves he cant drive it should have been worse
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Old Jan 1, 2007 | 10:06 AM
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that just proves he cant drive it should have been worse


Was this a dragstrip or just some place people race? If it was a dragstrip what time did you run?
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Old Jan 1, 2007 | 08:23 PM
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Its a real drag strip but during the weekdays its open to the public to just mess around, The lights are off and there is no times or anything except for the weekends. Basicly just a nice straight away but tell me what you think about those other cars because i might be racin for real next saturday.
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Old Jan 1, 2007 | 08:43 PM
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the only car i know you could have a problem with is the 01 camaro, not for sure on the rest, but give them all a try if just for fun.
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Old Jan 9, 2007 | 03:07 PM
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well i ended up goin and racin all those cars except for the crossfire and the mazda. The g6 wasnt really s street racin car so i won by a mile, the civic was pretty much stock and i beat him pretty good to. The cammaro was only a v6 so i pulled off the line much quicker than him but he came back and almost beat me, i only had him by about 2 car lengths at the end. The gti had a supercharger and alot of mods i didnt know about and he beat me by about 2 lengths. Not bad for a 305 tpi though, That gti was fast as hell!
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Old Jan 9, 2007 | 10:34 PM
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Well heres what went down, me and this kid went down to my local track and just messed around. he actually ended up bein pretty cool. we raced once and he beet me but let me tell you he only had me by 1 car length.We didnt race for money either. Im just startin to get into this racin and its alot of fun. Theres a group of guys i met at the track who told me to come back next week and race for fun, heres what they got,
1. a pontiac g6 stock 06
2. a volkswagon gti with a couple of cheap mods 97
3. a 2001 v6 stock cammaro
4. a civic with a new exhaust and suspension system, basicly stock
5. and a mazda rx-8
thats really it so can somebody give me some predictions on those races with my 87 v8 305 tpi trans am with a suspension package
Cool, you met all the slow guys...
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Old Jan 10, 2007 | 04:21 AM
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Cool, you met all the slow guys...
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Old Jan 10, 2007 | 10:26 AM
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UH, go to the track with the tree and times on and let us know what you run. Something smells funny here.....

I am thinking that G6 should of had you pretty easily.
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Old Jan 10, 2007 | 10:41 AM
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Well, after reading some more, IF the g6 was a gtp version, you would of been toast.

They tested those at 14.4@96 with a terrible 60 foot time. That will def best an 305 tpi car at the track any day.
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Old Jan 10, 2007 | 02:39 PM
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I wish we had a local track that would let us run during the week. Where do you live?
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Old Jan 10, 2007 | 07:00 PM
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that guy only put a car on u in the 07 what a loser.... i would have put like 10-15 on u. he dose not know how to drive what a loser
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Old Jan 10, 2007 | 08:07 PM
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Old Jan 11, 2007 | 02:26 PM
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Old Jan 16, 2007 | 10:27 PM
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Alright, i know the 305 isnt a monster but its pretty fast, its got enough to take out a newer v6 mustang with ease and i have beat every rice burner who has lined up with me. After i put on my catbck,headers,superchip, and new cam these stang gts better watch there backs. Plus its fatser than most everyday cars on the raod and it handles like a dream, its just an overall fun car to drive with some nice speed.
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Old Jan 16, 2007 | 10:43 PM
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Alright, i know the 305 isnt a monster but its pretty fast, its got enough to take out a newer v6 mustang with ease and i have beat every rice burner who has lined up with me. After i put on my catbck,headers,superchip, and new cam these stang gts better watch there backs. Plus its fatser than most everyday cars on the raod and it handles like a dream, its just an overall fun car to drive with some nice speed.
no moster is the truth. a off the shelf chip isn'yt going to work well with those mods, burn your own and dyno tune you more then likely will still not hang with newer GT's with out some help on get fuel and air in there better. and not faster then most everyday cars, examples, 4 gens 3.8, lt1,ls1's,03-04 mustangs dohc corbas, 05-07 4.6 gt mustangs,just about any vette, any 350 3rd gen , srt8 charger, and that is just a few. i cant name any stock imports cause i dont pay that much attention to what they run.
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Old Jan 16, 2007 | 11:13 PM
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I didnt mean cars like that i meant cars like civics and everyday driver cars, i know im not the fastest out there by far, i just dont like when people say that the 305s slow, thats not true, they have alot of potential and its a great platform engine with alot of torque and good acceleration. And thanks for the tip on the chip 91 drag.
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Old Jan 17, 2007 | 01:14 AM
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Turn everyone's head and get a nitrous kit. This'll put you up there with the big boys.
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Old Jan 17, 2007 | 03:56 AM
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Originally Posted by 91drag
the only car i know you could have a problem with is the 01 camaro, not for sure on the rest, but give them all a try if just for fun.
That makes me laugh, my Daily is a 2001 Camaro 3.8/ 5sp/ 3.42 rear. Exhaust/Airbox are my only real mods.

Yeah.....even with practice....still only mid 15's. In stock form they dont launch well, Its useless to launch above 3k, even if its one of those that came with Y87/GU6/G80.

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Old Jan 17, 2007 | 07:41 AM
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Originally Posted by Quasi-Traction
That makes me laugh, my Daily is a 2001 Camaro 3.8/ 5sp/ 3.42 rear. Exhaust/Airbox are my only real mods.

Yeah.....even with practice....still only mid 15's. In stock form they dont launch well, Its useless to launch above 3k, even if its one of those that came with Y87/GU6/G80.
since most of those cars are in mid 14's stock you must drive like crap sorry
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Old Jan 17, 2007 | 07:54 AM
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That makes me laugh, my Daily is a 2001 Camaro 3.8/ 5sp/ 3.42 rear. Exhaust/Airbox are my only real mods.

Yeah.....even with practice....still only mid 15's. In stock form they dont launch well, Its useless to launch above 3k, even if its one of those that came with Y87/GU6/G80.
I've heard of people running high 14's with good tires, the car definitely has the power but they're hard to launch, the best I ever ran in my '97 V6 was 15.67@89.89 with Headers and exhaust... never got past a 2.3 second 60'.

I later installing a cam and got it dynoed and pulled 210 RWHp. I sold my dad the car and he's had a ball with it... definitely a fun car with some cheap potential.
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Old Jan 17, 2007 | 08:06 AM
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Originally Posted by baroner
well i ended up goin and racin all those cars except for the crossfire and the mazda. The g6 wasnt really s street racin car so i won by a mile, the civic was pretty much stock and i beat him pretty good to. The cammaro was only a v6 so i pulled off the line much quicker than him but he came back and almost beat me, i only had him by about 2 car lengths at the end. The gti had a supercharger and alot of mods i didnt know about and he beat me by about 2 lengths. Not bad for a 305 tpi though, That gti was fast as hell!

this reminds me of a funny story..

about a year and a half ago, i was at the dragstrip with some friends... there was this new kid with a SN95 stang.. first time at the track.. hes having a blast racing all of these slower guys and beating them.... well, i didnt know him at the time, but he was a friend of a friend.... he asked to run me.
now my car at the time ran 7.60s if i hooked decent... i kinda figured, hey, if hes asking me, he must know what i have...
of course, i completely annihilated him...
we get back, and he looks totally heartbroken....
his friend asks him whats wrong, and he goes "i thought you said he was slow"... jeff replies "i said hes the slowest one of thoes camaros over there.. that doesnt mean hes slower then your mustang" (and it was true, most of my friends run faster)
now, he drives an fbody.
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Old Jan 17, 2007 | 09:58 AM
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Originally Posted by MrDude_1
this reminds me of a funny story..

.... he asked to run me.
now my car at the time ran 7.60s if i hooked decent.....
his friend asks him whats wrong, and he goes "i thought you said he was slow"... jeff replies "i said hes the slowest one of thoes camaros over there.. that doesnt mean hes slower then your mustang" (and it was true, most of my friends run faster)
now, he drives an fbody.
7.60s

Eh?

Okaeee.....
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Old Jan 17, 2007 | 10:19 AM
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That's a stout 8th mile, was it in the LS1 car or your 3rd gen?
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Old Jan 17, 2007 | 11:18 AM
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Originally Posted by 1991CamaroRslow
That's a stout 8th mile, was it in the LS1 car or your 3rd gen?
Um, the LS1 is IN his 3rd gen...
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Old Jan 17, 2007 | 12:18 PM
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Originally Posted by 1991CamaroRslow
That's a stout 8th mile, was it in the LS1 car or your 3rd gen?
thats the LS1 IN a thirdgen. lol

its right in line with the other LS1 cars, but from the outside, it still looks like a stock RS thirdgen....


freestylzz:
1/8th mile track... not quarter.... LOL.
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