so im wondering who win

MY CAR
83 trans am
700r4
brand new rebuild:
lg4 .30 over
mellings 204 214 cam
new lifters and springs
moly rings
heads cleaned valves mach. and 3 angle valve job
open element air cleaner
all emissons delete
ac delete
non cc q jet
jegs hei vac advance dizzy
3:23 gears (non posi)

talon tsi stock: engine stock boost 5 speed awd (specs show 195hp 203 tq)

 

race from the dig
but then again if the other driver knows how to launch that awd then yall pretty much even from the start.
anyway get the upper hand from the dig and you have it.

 

Im not sure but I think that if that Talon TSI is stock it will be even. But then again, I still have yet to see a Talon TSI that is stock, So if you dont know for sure that its stock, watch out. He may be running more boost than you think.

 

Sounds like almost exactly the same as my build. You didn't mention your exhaust, or intake, those two peice could really be making or breaking you. If you've got a decent exhaust w/ headers, it ought to be a decent race. But be warey, Talon TSi's build up cheap, and fast.

 

my exhust is stock manifolds with a very small exhaust its about a 1 foot of 2 1/2 in pipe past the y pipe and a cherry bomb turbo muffler just a regular street muffler and it dumps under the front pass. seat. BUT im prob going to put some longtubes on it with a custom exhaust all the way back. and the intake is a stock cast alum. intake

about the talon. the kid that is driving it now his bro put in the newer stock engine after he threw the timing belt on the old one. and im about 90% sure it is running stock boost. Plus the kid that has it now isnt the best a driving a stick.

 

I don't thikn i've ever even seen a stock DSM. I'd put money it's not stock boost at all, and that'll be the difference between a decent race, and total rape.

 

what does it take to up the boost on these cars

 

if the mitsu turbo is anything like the turbo on the GNs, alls it takes is about a dollars worth of parts at your local hardware store to make the wastegate rod adjustable. then he can dial in as much boost as he wants

 

tsi awd from a dig?? that thing will lay a hurting on you. a few of my friends have owned them, stock and modded, they haul some tail. awd from a dig is a bad idea unless you have 3.73's, posi, n d/r's. take him from a slow roll, he'll bog a lil, if he's stock, if not he'll pick up the pace and the boost isn't high on them so it'll spool pretty quick. i've seen these cars with under a grand in mods rack through the gears. but all in all, i think it'll be a good race, just get him up in the gears and mph. good luck man.

 

Only way you would have a chance in hell is if you had some deep gears and posi with good tires...AND he was stock boost. I'ed race him anyways. Chances are his car will brake...its a DSM

 

the saying in 240sx world, is that if you want to go fast, drive a DSM, but if you want to drive everyday of the week, drive a nissan.

they do break,alot.

 

I think he'll get you...

 

dude have u raced him yet?

 

No i havent..... i kinda over herd him talking to my neighbor about it. he says the car is running 13psi from 4 to 5k, if so he didnt set it up like that. (plus the kid isnt the best driver. he is a neighbor of mine that i could care less to give the time of day. BUT i was just wandering JUST IN CASE i every meet him at a stop light LOL..... O he also said that he pulled on a c6 vette up a hill


BTW, I just put on a holly 650 carb and its running much better.

 

The vette wasn't racing...

 

thats what i thought....


LOL just heard the the clutch is gone in that car now damn DSM's lol got to love them.

 

true to form for a dsm. course a break pre race doesn't count as a loss either, and the next time he'll be coming back stronger.

wait a month after he gets his clutch in, then he might break his trans while racing you

 

dsm's might break stock parts, but there's a lot of aftermarket parts that will take pretty much anything these little monsters will throw at them. my friend recently showed me an article where 2 friends each had street legal and streetable 9 sec. talons. that's nuts! these are a force to be reconned with, but it sounds more like this dude is a b/s'r.

 

My buddies stock Talon TSI was running about 9.0 @ 80 or so mph in the 1/8th.
All he did was unplug the Wastegate solenoid. I think it was hitting 15psi.

The best I got out of my 86 Trans Am LG4 with carb and manifold swap was a 9.5 @ 73mph.

 

no, i meant 1/4 mile 9.0's. i couldn't believe it. i just found a video the other night on youtube where this talon awd ran down a 4th gen transam w/ nos and took him. the dsm's are no joke when it comes to how little it takes to get them going. but if you took our engines and turbo'd them with some lower compression pistons, we'd have some fiercely psychotic cars that had gobs of power AND torque!

 

yea dont mess with the nasty *** dsms they are just wicked fast for nothing, back a couple years ago i had a 92 talon tsi, i put a downpipe exhaust and a air intake, raised boost to 14lbs i ran low 14s all day on my stock turbo and i hit full boost at about 2600 rpm, that car would be runing 10s if i didnt get hit in the butt by a drunk driver got to love it

 

my times weren't posted in response to yours, I was posting the 1/8 miles times for the OP.

 

zepher whats up man? that's f*ing crazy man, in my neck of the woods people don't play with talons too much except for good ol' nicky two beeps, and no one messes with him .

yea, i think those lil cars will be the 69 camaro of 2040, an awd turbo eclipse.

one glaring weakness they have is an inability to use the newer mitsubishi technology, as the newer 4 bangers while sharing alot in common with the old ones, spin the opposite direction.

 

its nice to be on dsm gen.org

 

g*d forbid we talk about our competition, if you don't like it find another thread huh?

 

i agree with rockit!

these threads are here to give everyone ideas of what our cars can do against everyday rides we come across. from stockers to barely streetable, the possibilities are endless. we are here to help each other out and relay feedback from previous experiences. if you don't wish to share any of those experiences or think anyone else's is worthless, then maybe you shouldn't even be on this board.

hey zepher, it looked like you were responding to the 9 sec. talons i was talkin bout. just coincidence man.

 

well as soon as i get done with the exhaust.....My car is going on the bottle

 

sweet man. the exhaust is very important on nitrous cars, remember to get a cam with emphasis on exhaust flow it will boost the power you get from the NOS and reduce heat buildup from the extra squeeze

 

I already have a mellings 204 214 cam
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what shoud i run with shorties a full exhaust and 100 shot...1/4 mile?

 

im sorry...im on a third gen site not dsm......and before you go off on me....i have owned a "few" dsms hahaha...it took 4 cars to make to make one decent car(all junk in one way or other)(bought them for $500 for 4 of em lol).

What i hate most about the 1st gens awd....
--4200lbs----dont call bs---i weighed them at the truck stops near me
--blow timing belt----lose motor 95% of time
(i tried dealership, greddy, ebay....no belt was good)
--trannys keep blowing up---


After that i tried 3rd gen supras......oh dear lord......nightmare city

After all that import crap i finally went back and got a few third gen F-bodies

 

I tried to buy a DSM and after going through about 60 of them and realizing they all had the SAME FREAKING PROBLEMS I gave up and bought a Prelude. I finally got tired of the 2.05 burning oil, gave it to my sister and bought a Chevy S10. The DSM cars are plauged with problems. Go to the track and keep an eye out for how many older DSM cars break while you're there. In Ohio the only import guys who seem to reliably run are the Honda guys. Here's what I would do, wait till he races his car a few more times then he'll probably have to fix something and you'll win by default

 

talons are fast but you got a good shot