I have a 1985 Trans Am 5.0 TPI Auto Vs friends 1993 Eagle Talon Turbocharged dohc I4 Manual who would have the better chance?

And his father has the 2000 Saab 9-3 SE Auto who would win there Vs me?

 

what's done to the rides? watch that talon though, light and only takes a few mods on the turbo'd ones to get em running like hell.

 

They are both pretty much stock my trans am has a 3" exaust with no cat. and a K&N filter. His Talon has the K&N filter with cat back and no cat. His car was a 1992 eclipse non-turbo and he took a 1993 Talon Turbo engine with the AWD and put it in his eclipse.

 

So its AWD?? if so even FWD he got this they make more power and got the turbo. those things got ***** for being 4 banggers and with little work they can handle 18 PSI on stock internals. How much Boost is he running?

 

PSI is relative to the engine and setup. so 18psi on stock intake, heads, etc isnt that much. that being said

Those 1st gen DSMs are dumb fast. and AWD launch FTW get him from a roll so he isnt in boost and takes away the AWD advantage

 

He is running the stock Boost and his car now is still FWD.
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If i go to race him from a take off where should i have the gear in like Overdrive or just Drive or 2nd or maby first and work my way up? I think start in 2nd and work my way up i don't know? He talked big like his car is the fastest in the town and he wants to race.
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If i go to race him from a take off where should i have the gear in like Overdrive or just Drive or 2nd or maby first and work my way up? I think start in 2nd and work my way up i don't know? He talked big like his car is the fastest in the town and he wants to race. My car is an Auto.

 

id put it in first cause from 35 itl just drop to 1st anyway but once his boost hits he should be past you. Its not AWD id take him from a stop cause hell spin like crazy if his boost hits fast. and i know mine from holdin the brake and revin to 2k and just flooring it i dont get any wheel spin at all it just goes try that.

 

k thanks

 

I have a 90 gsx...which is very similair except i have AWD. From the factory the cars arnt that fast, low 15's. With MILD mods they will RIP! If he has a 3" catback...with no cat, that will help a decent amount. If he doesnt have a boost controller then you are PROBABLY going to win...but not by much. If he has the boost up AT ALL, i think your toast. Good luck. Those cars are no joke. Hardly anything and they are in the 12's.

 

im actually in the same problem as you lol. my friend owns an awd turbo eclipse. and when we race the first time it was from a 10 mph roll and i had a nice steady pull away form him. and when we raced from a dig he jumped ahead a good bit but i started to gaind before i let off (was in a high cop area) but when we went to the strip he ran a .08 second faster. it was my first time to the drag strip so i didnt know if i should preload. but on the street we are fairly even. but now hes uped his boost so i dont know where i stand.

correction: he had his boost up when i raced him at the track. and it seems that performance shifting was the best.

 

Race from a dig ( stopped ) FWD fails the worst there.

Leave it in auto so you only have to worry about driving... the tranny will shift when you hit the best time to shift anyways

 

Thanks for the help i will tell what the outcome is.

 

Spin like crazy lol its a 4 banger with a little boost. Dude drop the 700r4 in 1st and dust his Bit*ch assz.

 

ive ridden in one that could spin all 4 i garentee it would spin them wheels

 

His car is rated at 195 HP and mine is 215 HP or 205 HP but his car is manual and is lighter.

 

Dude these cars can be MEAN> I own one, ive modded mine, i know about them. They are NO JOKE. Stock...not that quick....a boost controller and exhaust later...look out. The FWD's have serious traction issues. From a roll they are nasty. You definatly want to keep the race as short as possible and from a dig. The AWD's are just the opposite. I was shocked at how little $ it takes to make these cars scream. I also have numerous friends that have Dsm's that ive helped mod. Just because something is a four cylinder has little bearing on whether its slow or not. Hell my DD is a turbo 4 banger, and ive ran a 13.9 in it. 08 Dodge caliber srt-4. (flame away)

Anyways, just my two cents, i know about these cars, they are not to be taken lightly. Can be very good sleepers also.

 

Woooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooow

 

its going to be a tuff race...good luck youwil need it ..those turbos are killers

 

Yeah man good luck, even if you lose ya still got more ***** then the bi*ch in the 4 banger.

 

Yeah is car is fast it wips you back i have ridden in it but i don't want to race but i wont back down if he go's for it.

 

I hate to sound negative but if the T/A wins it won't be by much. His car is scraping 14's AT BEST...certainly within range of a turbo DSM with exhaust.

 

Drivers race I think

 

i had a 1990 plymouth laser with 265k miles on it and it ran in the mid 16's bone stock. 5speed, turbo, fwd. not bad for a $900 car!

 

He will win. Have you run your car at a track? I'd be surprised if you could crack 15's w/that thing. My mom had the same car, when it had a de-screened MAF, ported plenum, a little timing advance, no cat, CAI, cat back, it ran 15.8 @ 86 mph at Epping. Pretty crappy, but it IS only 190 hp in a 3400+ lb car. A Talon Turbo would out do that.

 

I always thought the 85's had a better mph due to the better cam they got?

 

They got a better cam? That sure wasn't evident w/the car we had. In fact, my '83 CFI w/headers, 5 speed and "free mods" went a second/9 mph faster. I was extrememly unimpressed w/the '85 TPI Trans Am. The only thing it had going for it was "SOTP", sound and image. On the track, it was a slug at the strip, and a pig on the auto x courses.

 

Lets just say you should not go for money lol just looking out cause my best friend has a 91 and it runs 11's with 2900 in mods in it...

 

cleveland is a dsm town. my dude has one and it keeps up dead even wit my l98, both 14.2's as of last night.

drivers race? takes alot less skill to hook awd, it's more about making enough power then getting it down. 3rdgens, make the power easily, but getting it down is the problem.. awd thirdgen,, there's an idea.

dude he has you.. my 85 tpi ran 15.4 at 89, he'd have to be less then stock to be slower, if you're on here asking how to hook it up, i doubt your car has either the tires or driver to get the win. not bashing just the facts.

racing a turbo car, against tpi, from a roll, is ASKING him to hand your *** to you, tpi wins out of the hole, or don't win at all.

 

Race, find out, report back with results. If you think he's got you buy beg or borrow a nitrous kit and spray a 125 shot to your car, that should even things out well.

 

i had a 91 talon fwd, that thing could fly to 100+ like it was nothing. with good street tires i never had any real traction issues. dsms are very easy to drive (as long as the tranny stays together )

oh yeah, and i used to get 30+ mpg back then...ugg

 

Yes, but the DSM is a manual and the camaro auto; Leaves a lot more room for error on the DSM.

 

My ex had a '90 gs turbo 5 spd. Stone stock, my car would walk that dsm. no problem. One weekend under the hood of the dsm, and about $500, and it was a totally different story...