so my buddys neighbor has a 07 saleen supercharged, full exhaust, tuned, and pulleys, and he says he will race anybody for 200$. so i told my friend to tell him ill race him but only on the track, he only races from rolls so i think i got a pretty good chance, who do you think will win
and i think im going to put my bottle in the car just in case cause i really dont want to lose 200$

 

if he hooks its a easy 11 sec. car...

 

yea that waht i thought but hes only had the car for a few weeks, and its on 18s with street tires, im relying on his lack of experience at the track to win

 

I'd say 12's at best. I remember back in 05' when those cars first came out in the new body style. They ran bottom 13's, a few snuck into the 12's. Don't forget that the S197 cars are a bit more porky than an old fox body. Did your friend mention what kind of power #'s the car in question puts down?

For comparison's sake - a few of my friend's own 07'-08' Shelby GT500 cars. They both lay down close to 500 at the tire. Drag radials, tune, CAI. Neither one of them has run 11's yet... very low 12's at 117-119 MPH. I wouldn't rate them as pro drivers, but I wouldn't say they suck either.

Either way - post up the results!

 

Yikes, my friends GT500 with similar mods on ET Streets went 11.1 @ 120+. If the Saleen driver can drive he should win (you off the bottle) if he cant, you should take him. It's basically on him as your probably right on your times every time out and he needs practice.

 

yea im pretty sure he cant drive it well and as long as the track prep is good tonite im going to spray it with a 200 shot, ive never met the kid yet but my friend said he beat a turboed hatch back civic and a newer si with nitrous and now he thinks hes got the fasted car around

 

Sounds like a pretty bad@ss race.
Just go all motor for now and see how it goes.

Nice job getting your 305 to run those numbers.

 

I'd say the difference is the tires then. 18" BFG drag radials don't "dead hook." Believe it or not, both of them get their best launches by doing a burn out - then turning the traction control back on for the launch. I've tried multiple times to talk both of them into a CCW drag pack with slicks and a set of 3.73 or 4.10 gears to replace the 3.31 cogs.

 

I'm still curious about what tires he runs. Here's one of the cars I mentioned in action this past Sunday:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S7UbxJjvwC4&fmt=18

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j7uEM-KErJE&fmt=18

 

with $200 on the line i'd say have the bottle at the ready just in case.

 

I say go for it! and if you win would you send me 25$? lol gotta pay a cheering fan

 

he never showed up last friday but, the track was horrible i spun through 2nd on my et drag slicks and went an 11.80 at 119 with a 1.702 60ft, the track was wet at the end of the night from all the dew

 

Thats a damn good time for a 305, how much did you spray?

 

it was a 200 shot but i only had 650lbs of bottle pressure where it should be 1000lbs, it should go low 11s if i can get it to hook

 

MT ET Streets... 18" versions I believe, he actually recently sold them.

 

The new drag radials I assume. How did he like them? What tires will he be trying out next? The car in the vids I posted was leaving about 2500 RPM slipping the clutch out fast. It left OK, nothing really stellar. I would love to see a full timeslip from the car you mentioned to see the break down of the run. I'd like to see where he's picking up his time vs. my friend's cars. The blue 08' in the vid ran 12.80's @ 113-114 completely stock, dyno'd just shy of 429 RW w/o any mods.

My apologies to the OP, just trying to gain some knowledge.

 

I'm 99% sure the tires he ran on were the non radial ET Streets but I would have to check. As for a timeslip breakdown I can ask him and see what he says. That 114 mph from a stocker seems loe to me. That much power the car should be turning upwards of 117-119. A well driven 03 Cobra at sea level is a 113-114 mph car.

Either way I will see what he says and get back.

Sorry OP

 

LOL You'd be dissapointed here then. The average 03'-04' cobra traps 108-109. The average Shelby does 109-111. Our track is 66' above sea level IIRC.

 

Yikes, my 258 rwhp car traps that mph...

 

Like I said, you'd be dissapointed. The DA here sucks on a regular basis, not as bad as say - Colorado or New Mexico, but still less than ideal. I have a friend that used to race his 98' WS6 at MIR. He consistently went 12.9 - 13.0 w/ just a lid & cut out. He moved to FL, and much to his dismay his car couldn't muster any better than a 13.4 here in Orlando.

And I hope you haven't taken any of my posts as ford bashing, I know it can be hard to read people over the web sometimes. I'm just comparing notes...

 

Watched a video 08 Z06 Vs. 08 GT 500. Z06 ran 11.6 in the quarter and the GT500 Ran a 12.8 plus it cost $15,000 more. Ive yet to here of one running in the elevens

 

Bad driving is all I can comment on the 1/4 mile time. How does it cost $15K more than a Z06? I am not up to speed on what new performance cars sticker for, but Isn't the Z06 a $65-70K car? That would make the GT500 a $80-95K car? Holy crap!!! They are NOT worth that much, MAYBE half that.

 

I was hoping you were racing a S7, not a mustang. Got a lil excited for a moment.

 

No way a GT500 costs more than a Z06, last I checked the avg. Z06 was selling for about $70K - $75K. My friend picked up his 08' GT500 for about $45K out the door.

 

hahah an s7... i would wonder how much crack you would have to be on to hope that a 305 would take a 7.0 L force inducted race car lol..

.. not gonna lie though.. that was my first thought too

 

Just sayin. They were both supposed to be professional drivers and my bad on the price the GT 500 only costs about 9 grand more than the Z06

 

Sorry it was the Shelby GT 500 KR and yes the price tag on it is $82,000 and it ran 12.8 in the quarter completely stock. Video was by Motor Trend

 

Interesting... A GT500, even a non KR is a low 12 second car.

 

the S7 pulls 11.5s int he 1/4. where as the OP said hes capable of low 11s...

that independent suspension kills 1/4 mile times. its not so farfetched.

handling is a whole different story.

 

yea im not sure how well a super car would launch on a wet track like it was the nite i went, i went a 11.8 at 120 with a 1.8 60ft spinning through second and having to pedal it in 3rd on 9in et drags

 

KR is a whole nother story, I can see that with a higher price tag. 12.8 is horrible, MT needs to be shot. I'm a GM guy saying that...

 

very true here in tiny pueblo colorado our ford dealer has a stage 427 supercharged roush hot off the assembly goin for 32k... the gts are looking at 26 average im not sure why these new bodies are so cheap.
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alightly off topic a 305 running that kind of times widens my eyes lol.. would love to get a run on it with my bug *sigh* distance kicks my ***

 

Theres a great reason they are so cheap... the economy. Same reason trucks can be had for nothing!

 

ah yeah that does make sense.. but i wonder how dodge gets off selling their v6 charger for the same price as a gt stang. even chevy's new v8 impala is only 29 maybe 30k and the v6 charger is still 32k...

as for the origional post i've never seen a new saleen yet but as far as numbers goes if your really running those times i think you have it he's only had for a few weaks so your driving will be better