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Old Feb 16, 2010 | 03:38 AM
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LT1 vs 305tbi

I am new here but I have a problem that maybe the third gen experts can help me with.

I have a LT1 car with some minor mods nothing serious maybe a high 12 car on a good day and there is this crazy 18 year old kid trying to get me to race him in his 305 92 teal Camaro. So my question is, should I just give him a tennis ball and tell him to throw that SOB as far as he can and give him that distance in a head start? Or should I just go heads up and teach him a lesson and take that money?
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Well, normally I'd say you should just spank him right out and teach him a lesson but since it is a TEAL Camaro, you may have your hands full

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that camro runs like 15s in the 1/4 mile
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Well, normally I'd say you should just spank him right out and teach him a lesson but since it is a TEAL Camaro, you may have your hands full

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I say spank him out right, just murder him and after words ask him to run again because you were having a problem with your throttle and couldnt floor it.
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Here's a stock 305 TBI Camaro... It's a 91 or 92 (I can't remember) in teal even. Do you think it's worth a ticket just to hurt his feelings?

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Old Feb 16, 2010 | 06:47 PM
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yeah that kid is stupidcan i race him once your donemy 91 rs didnt run hardly any faster than my 2.8 v6 i say do this take off and stay next to him and make him feel good...then wave bye bye and nail it and bust his *** that will teach him
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I say go for it. Do it for fun & be a good sport about it!
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I also agree to teach him a lesson.The school of hard knocks style.

Race him and race hard as if you had competition.After you win,take his money and tell him thats its not always good to talk so big if you cant back it up.make sure that he understands he didnt have a fighters chance at all,then hand his money back and walk away.

It might be a waste of your gas,time and money.But it will inspire the kid to learn how to run his car and build it to one day kick your *** back lol.friendly rivalry
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And if he happens to be one of those kids with a highly modified 305?
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And if he happens to be one of those kids with a highly modified 305?
Than what it would be deep into the 14's?
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Chances are not high on that in my opinion,and even if the 305 was modded..I doubt it would take an lt1 down unless he was spraying it and had heads cam intake exhaust..full tune and really good sticky tire.

His best chance will be in the first 60ft to be able to stay with you..for a very short ride..from there you can start whistling if you like lol,or even stop and take a break.
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i say do this take off and stay next to him and make him feel good...then wave bye bye and nail it and bust his *** that will teach him

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I wouldn't count the TBI guy down with the right mods. Here's me up against my friends 95 LT1 Camaro.

http://vids.myspace.com/index.cfm?fu...deoid=63417212
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I wouldn't count the TBI guy down with the right mods. Here's me up against my friends 95 LT1 Camaro.

http://vids.myspace.com/index.cfm?fu...deoid=63417212
thats a big list of stuff you got there, I doubt this kid has all that.
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True true, just saying with the right mods it doesn't take much to hang with or take down an LT1 car.
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But even if this kid had all that and more..Id question his ability to handle it and use it properly against the LT1.

Im sure it took you awhile to figure out just how well to drive that Camaro as well as you did against the 95.Didnt happen over night.
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True true, just saying with the right mods it doesn't take much to hang with or take down an LT1 car.
Touche lol
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But even if this kid had all that and more..Id question his ability to handle it and use it properly against the LT1.

Im sure it took you awhile to figure out just how well to drive that Camaro as well as you did against the 95.Didnt happen over night.
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Lol,but I will say this...
Id love to see thats guys face when they ask whats under the hood and the answer is "just a lil 305"

Always wanted to do a crazy 305 and blow a few LS1 car doors off but just wasnt cost effective for me.But a handfull of guys have and I give them full respect for it.Even for taking down modded Lt1's

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Here are some vids of me racing the TA early in 09

I am the 4th race in. Lost by one to a 500rwhp LS Camaro
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cfNHVsRF4a8

I am the 3rd race here, almost "took out" a quick a$$ T-type
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Originally Posted by robertfrank
True true, just saying with the right mods it doesn't take much to hang with or take down an LT1 car.
what does your car do in the 1/4?

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I haven't taken mine to the track yet but from what everybody tells me it a very low 14 second to high 13 second car. Still working on the tune though, it's being quite a bitch at the moment, lol

but getting back to your original question if he's bone stock and doesn't know how to drive then you will own him BADLY. So go ahead and hand him his a$$ on a platter.

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I haven't taken mine to the track yet but from what everybody tells me it a very low 14 second to high 13 second car. Still working on the tune though, it's being quite a bitch at the moment, lol
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I'm going to have to go with the 305 on this one!!!
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I'm going to have to go with the 305 on this one!!!
Seeing as how I am talking about you I would think so.

But you did get beat by a bone stock 97 Tahoe with 185k on the clock and a 2000 Grand am with a 3.1 over 200k for miles and SHE spotted you out.
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Seeing as how I am talking about you I would think so.

But you did get beat by a bone stock 97 Tahoe with 185k on the clock and a 2000 Grand am with a 3.1 over 200k for miles and SHE spotted you out.
Yup. With a 305 that had 17 year old plugs and a plugged cat and bald tires. She and you all street race around way more than I do so don't make this into a sexist, "you were beat by a girl" thread.

That was last year, bud.

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hmmm now this is getting interesting.........
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Yup. With a 305 that had 17 year old plugs and a plugged cat and bald tires. She and you all street race around way more than I do so don't make this into a sexist, "you were beat by a girl" thread.

That was last year, bud.
Hey man you can tell all the tall tales you want on here, but all of these problems only seem to surface after you raced and lost.

I feel like I must apologize to all of the fine folks here on thirdgen.org for you see I started this thread mainly to pick a fight with threeohfive (Aarons92Maro) on here. Because since he has been around a certain group of people on the internet that are into drag racing he has been telling us what a power house this 305TBI is and will be, he insists on calling out people who would have him covered by 2-3 seconds on a very bad run. So seeing as how when people from this other board try to tell him that if he is going to try and get into the drag racing scene and even have a shot at breaking into the 12's. Than he might want to think about pulling that 5.0 and dropping in a more suitable power plant for horse power. But than he brings up that over on thirdgen.org you guys tell him how badass the 305tbi is and that there is no problem in getting plenty of power out of it.

So I figured since I like to keyboard race in winter and he has about as much knowledge about cars as my GF than I would bring the fight here where maybe he can get some support to back up his claims.


For the record I have owned a 92 RS 305tbi m5 myself in the past (amongst other F-bodies) so I have an idea on what is what. I am also a member of just about any forum with the letters LS or LT or drag in the title.
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Hey man you can tell all the tall tales you want on here, but all of these problems only seem to surface after you raced and lost.

I feel like I must apologize to all of the fine folks here on thirdgen.org for you see I started this thread mainly to pick a fight with threeohfive (Aarons92Maro) on here. Because since he has been around a certain group of people on the internet that are into drag racing he has been telling us what a power house this 305TBI is and will be, he insists on calling out people who would have him covered by 2-3 seconds on a very bad run. So seeing as how when people from this other board try to tell him that if he is going to try and get into the drag racing scene and even have a shot at breaking into the 12's. Than he might want to think about pulling that 5.0 and dropping in a more suitable power plant for horse power. But than he brings up that over on thirdgen.org you guys tell him how badass the 305tbi is and that there is no problem in getting plenty of power out of it.

So I figured since I like to keyboard race in winter and he has about as much knowledge about cars as my GF than I would bring the fight here where maybe he can get some support to back up his claims.


For the record I have owned a 92 RS 305tbi m5 myself in the past (amongst other F-bodies) so I have an idea on what is what. I am also a member of just about any forum with the letters LS or LT or drag in the title.
Woooooooah there lil doggy, Ive owned enough 3rd and 4th gen v8 fbodies and I'm not picking sides but I'm sure your lt will wax him. I feel bad for him now. What are his "mods"?
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Woooooooah there lil doggy, Ive owned enough 3rd and 4th gen v8 fbodies and I'm not picking sides but I'm sure your lt will wax him. I feel bad for him now. What are his "mods"?
He's also the same guy (MODERATOR, how sad) who got in trouble by the site administrator for telling me I should commit suicide and he would buy the gun. He's a great guy, if you can't already tell. I would ask that mods close this thread. We all know this race will not happen and you came on here to flame me.

I'm not much of a drag racer, I made the mistake of joining a drag racing (mostly street racing) site last year. I get neverending hell about having a 305tbi, which I personally, enjoy driving.

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This may get me some hits but I'll be up front and honest, unless you've poured alot of time, money, effort & mods into the 305tpi/tbi, you got a SLOW car. If I owned a 305 I wouldn't even try to race anybody unless they had a 6 cylinder from the 90's or older. And that's if I had it well maintained, properly tuned with a full gas tank. Frankly 305's aren't crap. The only good thing about them is if they come with a T-5 and that does give them some extra room but not much.
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Well its not that we are trying to boast the 305 as a fast car in its stock or mildly modded state over here at thridgen.org because alot of us have owned those motors.

I simply replied to main topic question about your lt1 vs his 305.Fact is he would lose.But we will be able to say with a really good build up on his 305 and a really good ecm tune he can take you down in the future and it would be a tight race...assuming you dont mod the lt1 any further.

I personally dont think there is anything wrong with owning a driving a 305 car thats in good condition as a daily cruiser.As long as you dont go around thinking your the fastest thing on the block because its a v8 lol.Just respect it for what it is... torquey,semi economic v8 and good on insurance lol.

Lol if he is as crazy as you claim then why not just race him now,take the money and walk away
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Originally Posted by 86White_T/A305
Well its not that we are trying to boast the 305 as a fast car in its stock or mildly modded state over here at thridgen.org because alot of us have owned those motors.

I simply replied to main topic question about your lt1 vs his 305.Fact is he would lose.But we will be able to say with a really good build up on his 305 and a really good ecm tune he can take you down in the future and it would be a tight race...assuming you dont mod the lt1 any further.

I personally dont think there is anything wrong with owning a driving a 305 car thats in good condition as a daily cruiser.As long as you dont go around thinking your the fastest thing on the block because its a v8 lol.Just respect it for what it is... torquey,semi economic v8 and good on insurance lol.

Lol if he is as crazy as you claim then why not just race him now,take the money and walk away
I am not the guy with the lt1, lol. I was just saying the 305 is slow. And I concur, the 305 is a good car to have for it's looks & for a daily driver for sure. Keeping it maintained, tuned & looking good are all good qualities any car owner takes pride in.
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He's also the same guy (MODERATOR, how sad) who got in trouble by the site administrator for telling me I should commit suicide and he would buy the gun. He's a great guy, if you can't already tell. I would ask that mods close this thread. We all know this race will not happen and you came on here to flame me.

I'm not much of a drag racer, I made the mistake of joining a drag racing (mostly street racing) site last year. I get neverending hell about having a 305tbi, which I personally, enjoy driving.

first of all the only reason anyone would get in trouble from the site administrator is because your his lap dog, i would say more about what you do for him but there are rules about talking about someones sexual orientation on this website.

I'm also surprised you of all people would ask the mods on this site for anything since they banned your first screen name on here (Aarons92maro) and you had to sneak back on saying you were your own little brother

and lastly if you think it was a mistake to join the other website then why don't you just delete your profile on there and never go back, the never ending hell you get isn't about having a 305, its about you.
Nobody likes you!!!!
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Where are the moderators?

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Where are the moderators?

No kidding!

This is nuts. I never understood why people got so worked up by me liking a 305tbi car. I thought it was quick for what it was and I get called gay and a multitude of other things. Then the two people on the website come on here to try and start things up with me. Unbelievable! Not even worth fighting over.
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The best thing to do is just ignore them, don't instigate more. We don't need this nonsense on this site, even in this section of the forums. And it appears people are just making new accounts to start something here...if you are, don't waste your time, we aren't a bunch of kids here, this is a respectible site filled with actual vehicle knowledge and enthusiasm. We do NOT need negativity that you are all so eager to bring here.
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The best thing to do is just ignore them, don't instigate more. We don't need this nonsense on this site, even in this section of the forums. And it appears people are just making new accounts to start something here...if you are, don't waste your time, we aren't a bunch of kids here, this is a respectible site filled with actual vehicle knowledge and enthusiasm. We do NOT need negativity that you are all so eager to bring here.
Thanks for the kind words. Both are on ignore and I would like to ask that the mods please close this train wreck of a thread.
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You know all winter long ThreeOhFive tells me he going to clip me with this nasty 305 build, I just want to know what new and amazing things is he being told to do to this thing to get it so fast?

Oh and ThreeOhFive you brought the fight here.
https://www.thirdgen.org/forums/theo...vs-modded.html
Old Feb 19, 2010 | 04:19 AM
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Re: LT1 vs 305tbi

Well I am not going to lie, I do like the 305 motor. had a 305tpi in my 91 z and it was fun and they make badass 4x4 motors. However, the original topic is being strayed from, you asked if you could beat him and being that his mods arent shown I will assume he is stock or mildly modded so you should beat him and considering you say your lt1 is a high 12 sec car then yours is mildly modded too. On the main topic I think you will beat him if he doesnt have a smart setup. Game.....set...match. And there is nothing wrong with a 305 or liking a 305.
Old Feb 19, 2010 | 06:06 AM
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Re: LT1 vs 305tbi

Originally Posted by d00012
And if he happens to be one of those kids with a highly modified 305?
So what?
Old Feb 19, 2010 | 08:04 AM
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Originally Posted by ThreeOhFive
No kidding!

This is nuts. I never understood why people got so worked up by me liking a 305tbi car. I thought it was quick for what it was and I get called gay and a multitude of other things. Then the two people on the website come on here to try and start things up with me. Unbelievable! Not even worth fighting over.

coming from the kid that said Hitler should have killed all the gays
Old Feb 19, 2010 | 12:18 PM
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Originally Posted by twistedpower
coming from the kid that said Hitler should have killed all the gays
What are you talking about???
Old Feb 19, 2010 | 01:10 PM
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Yep, this thread will soon be locked im sure..
Anyways, my 305 is faster than my aluminum headed LT1. And it eats F-body LT-1 cars. Sooooo..
Old Feb 19, 2010 | 01:36 PM
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Originally Posted by NY3RDGEN
Yep, this thread will soon be locked im sure..
Anyways, my 305 is faster than my aluminum headed LT1. And it eats F-body LT-1 cars. Sooooo..
no shiz dee dee dee, your 305 is procharged
Old Feb 19, 2010 | 01:39 PM
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Originally Posted by Vortec_Formy
no shiz dee dee dee, your 305 is procharged
It is


Old Feb 19, 2010 | 01:57 PM
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Originally Posted by ThreeOhFive
What are you talking about???

this is what im talking about Aaron, you should know thou, you wrote it in this thread

i think this is what got you banned the first time.


https://www.thirdgen.org/forums/theo...ml#post4095398

No... I just like to be critical. I'm tired of this world making concessions for homosexuals. They need therapy, or serious help. In my opinion, they should be taxed twice as much as heterosexuals. If it weren't for them HIV/AIDS would not be the problem it is. I say we should ban all gay marriage, I laugh everytime a state deny's them the right and they all cry. Homosexuals go to hell when they die... Read the bible!!!
With beating the hell out of them, and making them wish they were never born. I hate them. Hate is a strong word... and it still doesn't do my opinion justice. Hitler needs to come back and instead of gassing Jews, gas all the homo's. Back to topic...
Old Feb 19, 2010 | 02:35 PM
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Re: LT1 vs 305tbi

Here on Thirdgen.org, the powers that be made a wise move by creating sub forums for the dreamers. You know the dreamers, the kids that go out and obtain a 305 TBI car, or a V6 F-body, thinking it'll be fast because it's a V8 or because it's a Camaro. They have no frame of reference so they think the car is much faster then it really is, and no amount of constructive criticism or even 4 or 5 defeats, is going to convince them otherwise. By creating these dreamer sub-forums these people have a home where they can discuss their dreams with other like minded people. Usually each of these dreamer forums has a few people (.1%) that actually make their cars fast, giving the low man on the totem pole a goal to shoot for. What unfortunately can happen is Ricky the Boy Racer starts running his mouth about his tough guy TBI or V6 performance car because someone else has made one fast. By having sub-forums it cuts down on the nonsense.

If you hadn't noticed, this forum is a dreamer sub-forum. It's here because most of us don't want to read about all the slow V6 and TBI guys bringing their knives to gunfights and making the rest of us look bad.

My point is that not everyone at Thirdgen.org is delusional. We're not even telling anyone their 17 second car is fast or a threat to anything. Those people are in the minority. They're embarassing themselves, not everyone on this forum. Now if anyone is offended by this, you have my apologies, but really you shouldn't be. If you know your car is faster then the majority, then who gives a rip what I think?
Old Feb 19, 2010 | 02:45 PM
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But this specific thread is beyond that, it was created as a joke, we don't need that, or any others like it.

The OP got us in the beginning, but at least he was courteous to apologize. Still, it wasn't necessary to bring this to the forums.
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Re: LT1 vs 305tbi

Originally Posted by NY3RDGEN
It is


LOL

Originally Posted by twistedpower
this is what im talking about Aaron, you should know thou, you wrote it in this thread

i think this is what got you banned the first time.


https://www.thirdgen.org/forums/theo...ml#post4095398

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No... I just like to be critical. I'm tired of this world making concessions for homosexuals. They need therapy, or serious help. In my opinion, they should be taxed twice as much as heterosexuals. If it weren't for them HIV/AIDS would not be the problem it is. I say we should ban all gay marriage, I laugh everytime a state deny's them the right and they all cry. Homosexuals go to hell when they die... Read the bible!!!
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With beating the hell out of them, and making them wish they were never born. I hate them. Hate is a strong word... and it still doesn't do my opinion justice. Hitler needs to come back and instead of gassing Jews, gas all the homo's. Back to topic...












Holy Red Prejudice Batman

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Old Feb 19, 2010 | 06:59 PM
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Why are F body FAMILY MEMBERS even concerned with beating on each other,you should be picking on non GM people!


This thread is BEAT
Old Feb 20, 2010 | 02:02 AM
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Re: LT1 vs 305tbi

This thread is giving this site a bad name. Why are the mods letting it keep going? This needs to be locked.

Pretty terrible that two men, one in his thirtys (?) have enough time on their hands to harrass an 18-year-old all over the Internet because he's proud of his car. It's downright shameful. It is to the point where if it continues to be a problem, and this keeps escalating, there may be police involvement. This is harrassment, and I've been way too nice about the whole thing. It would be different if I didn't know you both, but you live in the same area I frequent and hang out in the same lots I visit on cruise night.

Seriously, leave me alone.

Last warning. I've dealt with this crap for too long and have better things to do than defend myself from false accusations.

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