My friend says its cheap HP and he'd never use it because its almost like cheating.

Just curious what you guys think!

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1988 Jet Black IROC
5.7L W/ 64000 miles
Flowmaster Exhaust
Fully Loaded
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My IROC In Readers Rides
My IROC

 

Isn't that the point of NOS? HP for a small price tag. I would never do it. I saw a kid ruin a perfectly good engine with it, but I don't think it is cheating. Cheating is when you are already moving before the light turns green.

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1984 Z28 Camaro
Mods: 350 ci built by Ultimate Performance Inc, 4 bbl Quadrajet rebuilt by Holley, 700R4 Rebuilt by Level 10, Hyptertech chip Stage 2, K+N air filter, Edelbrock TES exhaust manifold, Flowmaster Muffler, 3.73 Richmond gears, Auburn Posi Limited Slip Differential, KYB Shocks and Struts, Edelbrock Panhard Bar, Trailing Arms, and Strut Tower Brace, TRW Springs, 245/50/R16 Embassy Tires(Yeah, I have no more money.)
Future Mods: Paint!

 

i think if you build a motor to handle it its fine, but people who slap it on a engine with high mileage are asking for trouble. not saying some people dont have perfect success with it, but i wouldnt risk it.

 

I wouldnt risk it either. I kinda want my HP from start to finish. Not have to wait to get into 3rd or 4th gear to get hp.

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1988 Jet Black IROC
5.7L W/ 64000 miles
Flowmaster Exhaust
Fully Loaded
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My IROC In Readers Rides
My IROC

 

Cheating?!?!?! How is that any different from any other power adder? Anyone who says that nitrous is cheating is obviously just afraid to run it and making excuses as to why. I agree, cheating is starting to early

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*1989 RS
*Red, Daytona Turbo fiberglass hood, chrome 16x8 IROC wheels
*355 CID
*TPI ported plenum, SLP siamesed runners, Edelbrock high flow intake
*Edelbrock TES Headers (getting SLP 1 3/4)
*Richmond 3.73, Auburn Posi
*Modded 700-R4, 2800 stall converter

 

My friend dropped a superchraged engine into his car. Its really nice. Then we got on the subject of NOS and just wanted to hear what you guys thought.

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1988 Jet Black IROC
5.7L W/ 64000 miles
Flowmaster Exhaust
Fully Loaded
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My IROC In Readers Rides
My IROC

[This message has been edited by IROCThe5.7L (edited October 15, 2001).]

 

i dont think its cheating, but i think its "cheating".

i dont know if you guys will be able to differetiate between the two. i am after more "mechanical" mods...cams, even blowers, intakes, blab, blah blah...it seems like just spraying some NOS into a motor and doubling teh HP is "cheating", but im not blind enough to actually call it cheating.

i know what i am saying...does anyone else?

and by the way...i would never use it.

-Brian

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1991 Camaro RS
GMPP 350 HO crate engine - 454 TBI, MSD ignition, SLP exhaust, everything is new
700R4 - 2,400 stall converter, vette servo, shift kit
My car's webpage - z28boy.cz28.com
President - Central New York F-Body Association
Email - z28boy@twcny.rr.com
AIM - "Z28 Boy"

 

Saw this on a local board:

"NOS isn't cheating, your mom paying for your car is".

 

Nitrous is awesome. Nothing like the hit you feel from it kicking in. I've felt it twice, and it was awesome. It is hard on an engine, but if it's designed for it and tuned correctly, you shouldn't have problems with it. It's definitely the weapon of choice for a sleeper. Personaly, I like having my power all the time, but nitrous is cheap, easy, and fun.

 

cheating schmeating, the first time you go out and are about to hit that switch is probably the most scared for your car that you will ever be. Once you do it youll know what I mean. It is a great feeling...that little blue bottle, thats all I can say

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91 RS W/carbed 350, Vortec heads, performer rpm, Comp cams Xtreme energy 224/230 duration and .477/.480 lift. BFG Drag radials. 3.42 posi,Corvette servoed 700r4, 3000rpm stall converter. Edelbrock TES, 3inch cat, flowmaster with single 2.5 inch exit.
Best time yet to come
13.0 @ 107- N/A
12.5@ 117- 100HP Nitrous

This is a Pic of my car in race trim www.tbns.net/billyjay/camero.jpg

Yes I know how to spell camaro- so dont ask. I didnt make the link

 

I would like to say it's "cheating", but I would more rather lean on "cheap". I mean, I look at it as "bottles are for babies". Sure, all the pros use it... but I'm more for the naturally aspirated and forced induction way of competing..

What better way to win than to beat a car that is running the bottle when you don't have a bottle.

I guess I have this preconceived notion that people who use nitrous use it only when they are losing, or when they need their egos pampered.

But I have to admit that I do like the sights of that purge..

 

Horsepower is horsepower no matter how you make it. As long as it doesn't violate a pre-determined set of rules within the race, it's not cheating.

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1989 Mustang LX 5.0 Coupe
13.34@106.7 - needs more gear and converter

1992 Mustang LX 5.0 Convertible
14.23 @ 95.something - 100% bone stock motor - it's been a while since I've ran this one

1993 LX 2.3L Hatchback - "The Ride to VCU"

Moderator Stangtec.com, SN95.com
Amelia and Nic's Twin Terrors

 

My preference is to have the power all the time. I like to turn up to the strip on my street tires and see what she can do, it's a real world comparison. I feel that NOS is cheating in a way. At least with superchargers the power is always there on tap and turbos and cams etc.. I like to know the car is powerfull all the time and not reliant on a little blue bottle

Just my £0.52

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'86 IROC ZZ4
Holley 750 dp, Shorty Headers, BW POSI 3.27 rear, Southside sfc's, Probuilt 700r4, Hurst Dual Gate Shifter.
Best Run 13.8 @ 100mph- far more to come!
London-England (Brothers In Arms)
British Firebird/Camaro Site

[This message has been edited by ZZ42Fast (edited October 16, 2001).]

 

If useing nitrous is cheating,Then useing a turbo or a supercharger is cheating too.

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82 firebird with 305H.O.,Block bored .30 over,Keith black hyperutectic flat top pistons for 10 to 1 compression,Turned crank,Magnafluxed connecting rods,Melling H.V. oil pump,and double roller timeing chain,Ported and shaved heads w/3angle valve job,Z-28springs,Summit push rods and comp cams magnum roller rockers,Ported Edelbrock performer r.p.m.intake,Carter 625 afbcarb,Accell spark plugs,wires,and H.E.I.super coil,Heavy duty cap and rotor,Clevite performance cam with 450-460 inches of lift,Comp cams lifters,700r-4 tranny rebuilt with trans-go rebuild kit,corvette servo,New torQue converter,Flowtech headers,Flowmaster muffler,3.73limited slip rear end,Energy suspension bushings from front to rear,Energy suspension tranny mount,New center link,ball joints,trans-am steering box,ASP power pully,Boxed L.C.A.'s.

 

Nitrous isn't anymore cheating than putting a bigger cam in.Anybody who says nitrous is cheating is jealous and doesn't know anything about racing.Blower,turbo,cam,bigger intake,msd,ect. ect. it's all power adders.It's an excuse for people that gets beat by nitrous your cheating.And my oppionon it's those people that are sucking on the bottle.Come strong or don't come at all.Just my piece of mind

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85 iroc with 305 weind single plane intake, 650 double pumper, msd crap,holley mechanical fuel pump,cam is 230 duration 453 lift, 350 turbo tranny, 2400 stall soon to be 3000, 125 horse shot of nos, 4.10 gears, lower end is built and i shift the 305 at 6500, just for you 305 doubters pull up next to this 305 and get a little

 

So when a GN or TTA guy runs 6psi on the street and 25psi at the track; is that cheating. FU(K NO!!! The guys that say nitrous is cheating probably got lit up by a nitrous car at some point in time. BTW, Vortech's and ATI's give you more HP than a 125 shot. Power adders are power adders.
Nitrous is probably the route I will go when I have the money. It is more practical than a supercharger for me. Both produce ~250hp, but I don't have to run 93 octane unless I intend to spray. Just a thought.

 

There are also other situations where nitrous is the best way to get what you want accmplished done. There are two guys I know with 4th gen Z28s that both run mid-10s. Both of them are trying to get in the nines. To do that and still be able to drive their cars every day, the bottle is really the only way. Neither one has gotten in the 9s yet, but they've gotten within 10ths of it. If they elected to go with another method such as blower or NA, it would cost a lot more and be less streetable. Maybe not the blower as much, but it would have an impact on fuel mileage.

 

NOS is not 'cheating'. Like the post earlier, if you predetermine bfore the race, motor to motor, and you get sprayed, yes, that would be cheating. But adding HP is the name of the game, no matter if it's a new carb, or a new cam, headers,gears,etc,etc.
But to say that a single power adder is cheating isn't right.
Me, I like power all the time. that's the feel you get from bolt on mods, vs. spray. But most people see how easy it is to bolt on 100,150 or even 200+ HP shot, and get addicted.
If a motor and fuel delivery system isn't up to snuff, *BOOM*. Expensive lesson.

But things I have heard at the track, "if your car doesn't run low 12's, it's not ready for NOS."

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350 4 bolt main, Speed-O-Motive 383 stroker kit, re-sized rods ground for clearance,TRW Forged pistons,10.7:1 compression,HPC Coated RPM intake, Holley 750 cfm carb,World Products Sportsman II heads,2.02/1.60 valves, Comp Cam 1.6 roller rockers, Comp Xtreme 284 cam,240/246@.050 with .540 lift,Crane pushrods,ATI damper,Proform HEI and MSD6A box,HPC coated 1 5/8 headers, 2.5" exhaust with 40 series mufflers,TH350 with Hughes 3000 stall, Powertrax NoSlip Locker, 4.11 gears.

 

I stand by what I said.

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'86 IROC ZZ4
Holley 750 dp, Shorty Headers, BW POSI 3.27 rear, Southside sfc's, Probuilt 700r4, Hurst Dual Gate Shifter.
Best Run 13.8 @ 100mph- far more to come!
London-England (Brothers In Arms)
British Firebird/Camaro Site

[This message has been edited by ZZ42Fast (edited October 17, 2001).]

 

Its BS, don't use it. N/A cars are much more impressive than some guy with NOS saying how incredibly fast his car is, except for when the nitrous isn't working or something, LOL.

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89 RS

STILL Looking For:
An 87 IROC-Z28 350 TPI


[This message has been edited by IROCZTWENTYGR8 (edited October 17, 2001).]

 

I for one have hopped up cars in most every way poss the last 20 odd years or so.
I´ve been an avid nitrous user for the last 15+
Nitrous-or more to the point the use thereof-is simply put just another way to cross the finish line first.
Nitrous is safe-as safe as it can get.
I know i´m gonna hurt some feelings here,but the truth of the matter is that people that blow NOS motors up are the same ones that´s gonna blow a SC;d or turbo motor to pieces.
They simply shouldn´t be using the stuff in the first place.

When i use the bottle it´s normally 300 shot upwards and to this day the ONLY motor i/we´ve lost to the bottle was one we INTENDED to blow up.
A 993cc 3 cylinder Daihatsu Charade.
(It mustered a 125 shot b4 going into orbit btw)

Saying holds true.
When the flag drops the BS stops,and true enough..there´s no second place winners..

 

Well said,dvc-raceing! I totally agree!

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82 firebird with 305H.O.,Block bored .30 over,Keith black hyperutectic flat top pistons for 10 to 1 compression,Turned crank,Magnafluxed connecting rods,Melling H.V. oil pump,and double roller timeing chain,Ported and shaved heads w/3angle valve job,Z-28springs,Summit push rods and comp cams magnum roller rockers,Ported Edelbrock performer r.p.m.intake,Carter 625 afbcarb,Accell spark plugs,wires,and H.E.I.super coil,Heavy duty cap and rotor,Clevite performance cam with 450-460 inches of lift,Comp cams lifters,700r-4 tranny rebuilt with trans-go rebuild kit,corvette servo,New torQue converter,Flowtech headers,Flowmaster muffler,3.73limited slip rear end,Energy suspension bushings from front to rear,Energy suspension tranny mount,New center link,ball joints,trans-am steering box,ASP power pully,Boxed L.C.A.'s.

 

I have a question. What do you think about a kid putting NOS in his stock '98 Honda Civic? I know a kid who just graduated last year, and he thinks that he can just put NOS in and it will be okay. Do you think that he can blow his engine? Shouldnt he do some other types of mods first?(such as suspenision, etc.) I dont know a lot about NOS so I cannot comment about it. But I was wondering if that is safe to do in a Stock Honda Civic. It seems a little unsafe to me. He seems to think that he will now have the "fastest car around". Maybe it is just getting to his head. Well anyways....I would rather have raw horse power...straight from the engine...w/o the bottle. But I can see that if I had a car that ran 10's...as stated before...and that I still wanted it streetable yet wanted it in the 9's...then I would probably use it. Oh well, I am 17 and have plenty of time to decide whether or not I will ever use NOS. Like I say...Never say Never. You never know.

James

 

I would never touch it. It's like steroids. But you have to draw up a situation first. Let's say your going to race a guy that has a car that's pretty close to your own in the timeslips. By the way we're talking on the street here. You get side by side at a light. Then he hits the nitrous-----cheating!!!!! That's almost the equivalent of shooting out one of your tires in my book. But if he makes you aware that he has it, and races you without it as well as with it, it's fine.

 

i agree abel, its the same thing as when a woman comes up to you, and doesnt tell you shes not really a woman, and just lets you find out on your own, the way i see it.
(NO THIS HAS NEVER HAPPENED TO ME, KEEP QUIET)

 

Isn't that what street racing is all about!! It wasn't even a month ago that a member on here was talking about getting roasted by a sleeper stang, and everyone was laughing it up telling him how good of a story it was. Now, if you get smoked on the street it must be because the guy was spraying (according to able kane, you must list your mods to a guy before hitting a light). You don't know anything about N2O, and you are afraid. Ask any of the thousands of people out there that are running nitrous safetly. Go put your car on the bottle and we will see how your opinion changes. And also, if you want I can send you a towel so you can get the sand out of your vagina

 

Listen here, you little bitch, I'll take none of your insulting little remarks. You can go ahead and use your n20 "safetly". That's what I said. But the idea of spraying every single time, or lying about it... What's this little dumb@ss "vagina" remark? Got some little problem with women? I don't myself, but it's a free country...guess you can think what you want...long as I don't have to hear it. Or read it. Or even think that people like that exist.

 

HAHAHAHA, That was exactly what I expected you to say....stock. You are the little bitch whining about how you don't think it's fair to spray. If there were predetermined rules for an all motor run, then spraying IS cheating. But if you know a guy runs a certain et, and you catch him at a light after he installs nitrous (and you get smoked)....then I'm sure you would still go crying home bitching about how nitrous isn't fair. Is it fair to run drag radials on the street...or a s/c...or a turbo....it's all the same argument a$$hole.

 

I am probably a hypocrite for saying this, but I always thought NOS was cheating but a charger wasn't...

Why?? A charger is in use all the time. NOS, you just push the damn button or whatever, and when the bottle runs out, all of a sudden you ain't so fast

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Jason E

'89 Camaro RS
-Medium Grey Metallic
-2.8, A4, T-tops, 94k miles
-Hypertech chip, Accel wires/coil/K&Ns
-Alpine 60x4 and Bostons

'97 Z28
-30th Anniversary package (white with orange stripes)
-LT1, M6, t-tops, 45k miles
-Eclipse CD and 10" Aluminum sub in JL Audio Stealth box, Boston RM speakers, Xtant 403a amp

Speed Kills...Wanna live forever? Drive a Ford.
Long Live #3...

 

Buckwheat say "Nitrous Otay"

I don't consider anything you put on your car cheating including nitrous. It's just a cheaper and easier way to go fast.

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2000 NHRA Edition T/A
Pewter Metallic
A4 3.23 Gear w/GSC's
Whisper lid, MAF Ends, Ram Air Kit, Exhaust C/O
Best 60ft:1.94
1/8th:8.381@86.03
1/4:12.963@108.44

1989 IROC-Z 5.7 Dual Cat
Auto w/3.27 gears
Jet Stage 2 chip
Modified Air Box&MAF
AFPR&Air Foil

 

My point is: Lying is Cheating. And I think it's funny that this little sexist here tries to put me down by calling me a woman. I like women myself.

 

I dont think you know what youre really saying here able, you seem to change your mind every other post. First nitrous is cheating and then lying is cheating. In a street race anything you do to your car is fair. Its not like you line up next to someone and sign a contract that says what each guy has done to thier car, you RUN WHAT YOU BRUNG. As for the sexist remarks, just because Violate told you to get the sand out of your vagina doesnt mean hes sexist. It just means that he doesnt want the chafing from the sand between your legs influencing your decisions.

 

Abel Kane-Are you one of those guys that knocks on other guys in front of chicks to make yourself look better? You seem like one of those guys.
BTW, Stop talking about nitrous and how it's unfair, because nobody will ever have to spray to beat your 17 second car.

 

WHAT THE HELL!!When I am at a light and want to go with someone or at the strip on a sunday I sure as hell dont ask em what they got, all I want to know is will it run.Hell NOS,turbo,blower...what differance does it make ya run what ya brung. Why dont ya start up a commie racing series where everybody has the same ET and then ya break them down so they all have the same reaction times to.Or better yet...keep her parked!Everygbody wins.Would that keep ya from crying. Smells like a sore loser from gettin burned all the time.CRACK THE BOTTLE AND GO!

BOTTLES AND BLOWERS MAKE ALL THE REST SLOWER!!

[This message has been edited by 4NK8OR (edited October 18, 2001).]

 

Hey Dano, you don't like me saying NOS???

Well BUCKWHEAT ( ), I figure if the title of the post says NOS, most people can PROBABLY figure out what I am referring to, eh?? Others can say it and I can't???

Get a life...

 

Ummm, did I miss something here but I don't think I said anything about you. I guess your probably too young to remember the Little Rascals....Buckwheat....remember. I didn't say a word regarding you.

Buckwheat still say Nitrous Otay


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2000 NHRA Edition T/A
Pewter Metallic
A4 3.23 Gear w/GSC's
Whisper lid, MAF Ends, Ram Air Kit, Exhaust C/O
Nitrous Express 150hp kit
Best NA Times
60ft:1.94
1/8th:8.381@86.03
1/4:12.963@108.44

1989 IROC-Z 5.7 Dual Cat
Auto w/3.27 gears
Jet Stage 2 chip
Modified Air Box&MAF
AFPR&Air Foil

[This message has been edited by Dano 00TA (edited October 19, 2001).]

 

I think it's rather strange how much many of you assume. Here's a scenario:
Two people get ready to race. One yells to the other,"Do you have NOS?" "No." They race and the one who questioned loses. Or: Two people race. One has NOS being fed to his car. He wins. When they pull over to talk, he bull****s and runs his mouth, and never mentions his little secret. If the other asks, he denies it. Many of you do not believe it is cheating- that's ok, it's a free country, that's what we continue to fight for. But is it not bad sportsmanship? By the way, my car far from the slowest car around. As a matter of fact, there are stock camaros and mustangs that are slower- if you look through the years. That doesn't stop someone from modifying them, and it does not make it a bad car. I think it's funny that alot of you seem to think it's funny that there are people that don't have the money to go out and by any car their little heart desires. I am not a rich person, and I never have been. It's also funny that alot of you camaro and firebird owners put down my "17 second car" yet you have to have a winter car as well as your sports car. Hmm, why is that? You know what? My car can be driver year round, and it has been for 16 years. It will for 16 more, while alot of you get a car every 3000 miles. You can do what you like, maybe I would sample cars in the same fashion if I could. But I take pride in my car. Is it as fast as a camaro or mustang or whatever else is put high because of straight line aceleration alone? No- 99 percent of the time, I guess, right now anyway, it wasn't buildt for it. Still funny about all of your assuming. You've already assumed that I'm male, teenaged, and white. Tell me more- I'm starting to enjoy it. Why don't you tell me my future, or well I guess you could assume anything. I came to this board because it seemed like there were nicer, friendlier people here. I assumed that in the last month maybe people would have gotten themeselves in a slightly different mindset. No **** that. How big is you house? Do you own a Camaro? Why not, you must be some piece of trash. Well, fine, this board seemed to be more peaceful with me not here, though I don't see how I caused such a fuss...Well, try to get it together. *** bless. Believe it or not.

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1981 Oldsmobile Supreme Brougham... 403 V8, bored .030 over, Blue Racer Wolverine camshaft with hydraulic lifters, 700 Edelbrock carb, stock intake, K&N air filter, Bosch plugs and wires, dual exhaust...400 turbo...

1985 Ford LTD Crown Victoria 4dr...302 TBI V8, Bosch +4 plugs and wires, K&N air filter...AOD transmission...3.08 non posi

 

In the words of what SPOOM said in another post "you run what you brung"
whether that's completely bone stock or every possible mod imagineable...
A mod is a mod,including N2O,S/C,TURBOs or even thermostats, a race is a race...if you lose you lose, if you win you win...if you think you'll lose, don't race unless you can handle losing.
And if you think that n2o is cheating, take all the mods off your car and go race some stock ricers with wings...cause that's all you'll beat.
sorry for venting
but i hate it when people say n2o is cheating
just because you are scared to run it, doesn't mean that the guy who does is cheating.

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1998 Ford Ranger 3.0 Cold air intake and flowmaster exhaust.
FOR SALE: 1995 Red T-Top Camaro...Got a ticket, now my insurance is too high...
1989 5.0 RS

 

I just wanna know, but doesn't refilling the bottle get a bit spendy?

 

Depends on how much you use it. I only use mine once in a while. I've had it on my car since april and went through 2 bottles so it's not that bad. 30 bucks a fill.

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2000 NHRA Edition T/A
Pewter Metallic
A4 3.23 Gear w/GSC's
Whisper lid, MAF Ends, Ram Air Kit, Exhaust C/O
Nitrous Express 150hp kit
Best NA Times
60ft:1.94
1/8th:8.381@86.03
1/4:12.963@108.44

1989 IROC-Z 5.7 Dual Cat
Auto w/3.27 gears
Jet Stage 2 chip
Modified Air Box&MAF
AFPR&Air Foil

 

Cool, how much use does it take to empty a bottle? Like on the street vs. at the track?

 

Well at the track with a 75shot you should get about 10 1/4 mile passes out of it. If you go with a higher horse jet you'll naturally get less. As long as you don't get crazy with it on the street and use it alot it'll last a while. You thinking about getting one?

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2000 NHRA Edition T/A
Pewter Metallic
A4 3.23 Gear w/GSC's
Whisper lid, MAF Ends, Ram Air Kit, Exhaust C/O
Nitrous Express 150hp kit
Best NA Times
60ft:1.94
1/8th:8.381@86.03
1/4:12.963@108.44

1989 IROC-Z 5.7 Dual Cat
Auto w/3.27 gears
Jet Stage 2 chip
Modified Air Box&MAF
AFPR&Air Foil

 

WTF is wrong with you man... if you actually go and look at abel's first post it was a PURE OPINION! No bashing or badmouthing whatsoever... You jumped on his back saying his OPINION was wrong... you seem to be talking about yourself with the above quote... only you also need to bash other people in front of men and women to feel "good" about yourself... SO JUST SHUT THE **** UP!

 

NOS sucks. "Look my car is slow, (pushes button) whoohoo now its fast!!" BS.

 

hey look my car is slow (insert one of below) and wow is it fast.

now I swapped cams
now I put a big block in
now I took out 400 lbs
now I turned the boost up
now I drive downhill


[This message has been edited by vortecfcar (edited October 21, 2001).]

 

You must never have ridden in a car with it or used it. I've ridden in a few cars with nitrous and there is no other feeling like hitting that little button. It's unreal. I want to build a 383, and eventually I'll probably put it on the bottle, because it just keeps looking more and more appealing.

 

The thought has crossed my mind, no money now but down the road maybe. One thought was after I get a 400 in thats pushing close to or more than 500 then something like a 75 shot just to add more fun and whatnot.. Then thoughts of it on my 305 and re-use it later with the bigger motor. But I'll want to know the ups and downs of it before I get a system.

Jess

 

NOS a crutch for those unable to make real Horse Power. When the crutch goes away push button cars fall on their a$$.
They get no R-E-S-P-E-C-T period......

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Chronologically challenged. But still kicking!
'92 CAMARO RS
305 TBI 5/spd (now TPI)
B4C Alt.
Cam change:TRW 198/210 ,450/.460 114 LSA
Stock TBI manifolds
'85 IROC Ex.
14.94-92.00 mph
SPDC base and "350" Vortec coming soon!
'69 camaro-BB/Lenco,1050 dominators, /Pump Gas/no drugs 8.97-150+/3200lbs.
SoCal Thirdgen F-Bodies

 

Dont need respect, just need the loser to pay up after me and my bottle mop the floor with him.

 

Read Sig.

I think it's great that Honda guys are putting nitrous on their stock motors...They might only be 10 cars behind instead of 20 when I race them...

Oh and I've noticed that the ones knocking nitrous have slow cars. I figure that is because you don't have the money to soup it up. Well instead of smoking whatever crack your smoking (it must be good since you make no sense) for a week, go ahead and save up for a nitrous kit, throw it on your car and then shut your mouth when you realize how cool it is to go fast.

Now imagine how much longer it would have taken you to go that fast by modding other things.

Hmmmm, lets see. Do I want to go 12's in a week or in 6 months so I can keep this stupid sense of pride??

Go ahead and knock me. I'll still beat you without it...HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

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'90 GTA...nitrous is your friend