last week, in my 00 civic, which is very
lightly modified, a guy in a 92 rs heritage
tried to race me. i was coming on the on
ramp, and he was next to me in the lane that
i wanted to merge into. i was still in 2nd
and going about 45 or so, and started to get
on it to pass, and so did he. i held it to
the red line(7200) and shifted into 3rd and
held it hard into the vtec. by 4th and about
90mph, i had him by almost a little over
a car length. (close race)
i was very surprised as to how the civic
pulled, but at a stop light, its a whole
different race (civic has no torque)
btw, im not trying to create an argument or
have everyone slam me b/c i like my civic,
but i also have a z, which is my 2nd camaro
third gens are one of my most favorite cars,
but you have to appreciate other cars too.

 

Great...more slow cars racing.

 

as long as your willing to wail the pi$$ out of those inline fours w/5speed..you can do the impossible.

 

Good job man,
While I'm not an import follower that was nice. I'm glad to see some competition (at whatever level).
btw, can someone explain this VTEC phenomenon to me??? hahaha

 

I'll actually come out n say good one, I'll bet the guy just didn't realize his engine dosen't have that much top end and probably was revving out the gear too long.

Vtec = variable valve timing

After about 4500 RPMs the engine switches to another cam profile thats VERY agressive and pulls like absolute crazy until like 7500 or so. The milder cam actually keeps the engine usable at the lower revs (or my entire operating range... jeesh i'd hate to see what'd happen to MINE at 7 Grand...)
I think theres also a 3 stage version with 3 cam profiles that it uses depending on RPMs. Pretty cool idea if ya ask me, but i've heard that toyota and porsche have much smoother systems with a less "on and off" style powerband but i think honda came out with it first.




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88 Camaro (The mighty LO3 SC!)
305TBI/700R4/2.73/125,XXX miles
10" Open Element and Flowmaster 80 seires
Bosch Platinum plugs
Double silicone Accel wires


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it was probably a v6 camaro i am guessing?

 

could be a v6, but really an LO3 has about the same chance as a v6. my 2.8 beat many LO3's and i was beat by many LO3s also. just depends on the driver and how good the car is on that one. by the way, im buying an LT1 94 z28 today!!!(6-speed!!!!!!!!)

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1995 Camaro
3.4 with 4L60E
Stock...for now

Currently being redone:

1988 Camaro
2.8 with T5
threw a rod...
Soon to have a 350 TPI out of an '85 vette...
http://www.nothingssafe.com

 

Is it really a different profile, or is it just advancing the cam timing? I always thought the latter, but I'll admit that I'm no import genious.

Anyway nice race. Did the guy have any mods? It was an L03 right? I know my car sometimes is unwilling to get up and go the way it should at certain speeds. For instance, If I am going 45-50 and hit it my trans will downshift into 2nd and I will fly. If I am going 55-60, It'll sit in third and not really accelerate well. Something to keep in mind if it was an auto car. Like you said, from a stop I think he'll get ya.

peace

 

Actually, I heard Ford developed a variable timing system first. I guess they couldn't market it as well as honda.

 

I'd bet it was a V6 RS, I have an L03, so I have no confusion about how SLOW they are, but I also have an 01 Civic EX, and that thing is a sorry excuse for a Honda(it's my mom's, and it's an auto YUCK).. The 1.7 w/ the auto is the ****tiest combo ever, the gear ratios are totally ****ed for the VTEC. I've driven one w/ the 5spd, it was better, but it couldn't take an L03 to highway speeds. Over 80 it would be pretty close, sad but true.

Anthony

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previous ride: 87 Camaro LT
350, A4.Comp Cams 268H, Edelbrock Preformer intake, Hedman Headers and y-pipe, gutted cat, No AIR/smog pump. 14x3" Open element K&N, Q-jet w/ D hanger and DA rods, adjusted AV spring tension and quick can.

Current ride: 1992 Camaro RS, K&N, Flowmaster, 305, T5, Black, T-tops, 84k miles.

 

i think the camaro was an LO3, b/c it had
the 16" wheels, plus it was a heritage,
but you never know.
i wonder how bad he would have killed me
from a dead stop though, since that motor
has more than 2x the torque of the civic.
(255 vs. 106?)it is fun to wail on
that motor, but more torque would be nice
it will be nice when i can drive the
z. (needs intake resealed, and new srpings
and struts-the front rides REALLY low)plus
an alignment

 

I thought only IROCs got the 16s while the RS got 15s. The RS's have those funny looking rims, to me anyways.

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"Putting any amount of money into a RICE BURNER is like wiping your a$$ with a turd. "
'86 IROC
T-TOPS, TINTED WINDOWS, BRAKE LIGHT BLACKOUTS
GM GOODWRENCH 350
EDELBROCK TES HEADERS
3" Hooker CatBack w/Aero Chamber muffler
EDELBROCK 600CFM CARB.
KN AIRFILTER
ACCEL HEI DISTRIBUTOR
160* Stat, just switched to 180* b/c of winter coming and going to college in the mts.
3:73 Posi
Rebuilt 700R4
B&M Megashifter, 5" Autometer Tach w/shift lite

 

nope 16" was an option, I had them on my 92 RS LO3/5speed, that car hauled for such a ****ty engine, course mine was in excellent tune, and that of course makes the diff, all cars have potential but if you trash it and don't care for it it will be **** for you.

so a 10+ year old car in ****ty tune ... should lose to a less than 1 year car that should be in (factory tune).

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1989 Trans Am GTA, Gutted air box, K&N, Koni Sports

 

The new i-vtec engines found in the Rsx-S use the same variable cam profile but they also have a variable intake runner length.. At low rpms, the mixture of fuel and air takes the longer path to maximize torque but when you get up in the higher RPMS, it uses the short runners and the agressive cam profile... If chevy made a v8 like this, it would absolutely rock. 5.7 liters cranking out 600 hp on motor...

 

Yeah, dont'cha wish people would put this kind of technology into a V8? Besides maybe a few megabuck cars that have it.

Honda S2000 = 2.0 (i think) liter, 240 hp
120 HP/Ltr
5.7 ltr engine @ 120 hp/ltr = 684 hp!!

If only GM made a 684 HP engine that could pull to 9000 RPMs like a honda and run stable in traffic, hell i'd settle for that HP at justabout any RPMs....

That'd be too sweet for words but i'd never ever be able to afford insurance!




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88 Camaro (The mighty LO3 SC!)
305TBI/700R4/2.73/125,XXX miles
10" Open Element and Flowmaster 80 seires
Bosch Platinum plugs
Double silicone Accel wires


Next up: headers and gears