I have a 1986 305 TPI auto with K&N's, a shift kit, an Edelbrock Hi-Flow baseplate, as well as a Dynomax cat-back. My friend has a 1999 V-6 mustang with a cold air setup as well as a dual flowmaster exhaust. We talk about racing all the time, but we never get too. Just kinda wonderin?

 

I think the camaro would win. the tpi engine has alot of torque and top end power. If the mustang gets you off the line, the camaro will win in the long run. My opinion.

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1989 iroc-z 350 TPI, auto trans, leather int. t-tops, edelbrock headers and cat back system, SLP cam, crane double roller chain, 4 wheel disc, and aftermarket hood. Iroc-z's forever, Ford Mustangs NEVER

 

We have a street racing forum for this.

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89 Iroc 350 TPI,
Forged pistions
Comp roller Cam .510 lift 230dur
Flowmaster exhaust
Dart Iron Eagle heads 200cc runners 64cc chambers
LT1 intake soon...if I can find one!!!
stock TPI for now 24# inj
87 Trans Am GTA 350 TPI
had engine fire
SHE NOW RUNS!!!!
Flowmaster exhaust
LT1 Injectors
LT1 intake also if I can find one!!

 

one....TPI SUCKS IN TOP END lol....two the new V6s have POWER!, the 3.8s in the firebirds and camaros have about 200 hp. come on tha is more then you have.

 

Dude he said V6 rustang.It shouldn't be a race.You'll wip his AZZZ

 

You should. Why? He *might* be able to break into the 15's if he is lucky. Yours should be somewhere in the mid 15's if its running right.
Race and find out.

 

Yepo you can tell who hasnt been around here for very long. They still think because its a V6 its not fast. I like that attitude, those are the guys I like to have take a ride in my car LOL.

 

I have a close friend with a '96 V-6 'stang. Let me tell you they are not slow.I HAVE raced him(on the street).I can get him off the line, but he is on my rear the rest of the trip! DO NOT under estimate it just because it is a 6. If my friends 'stang had a cold air intake, and free flowing exhaust, he would probibly cause me great emotional distress as he stormed by. Now if I got that turbo ............................

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86 Z-28,305,700r-4,t-top.
"DRIVE IT LIKE YOU STOLE IT!!!!!!!!!!"

[This message has been edited by deepsouthz28 (edited November 13, 2001).]

 

I raced a 99+ V6 mustang in a V6 camaro and beat it without too much effort. It is not a 3800 V6 fourthgen either, its the base model. I wouldnt worry too hard about it.

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1992 Formula 350
-SLP 1 3/4 Headers
-Ported Plenum, Polished w/ polished runners
-Airfoil and other small bolt on mods

 

Ok dont the new V6 mustangs have close to like 190hp? How did a 160Hp camaro out run that?

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89 Trans Am Turbo 3.8L All stock 43,000 miles #1053 of 1555

Past Thirdgen:
86 Trans Am w/ built 355TPI with SLP goodies and too much other stuff to List. One sweet *** car, wish I would have had a good enough Job to pay insurance on three cars so I could keep it, but for a 89 Turbo Trans Am w/ Low miles, I think I made the right choice!

 

A peanut cam MAF 305 should be able to take any of the V6 rustangs. As previously said, they're high 15, low 16 second cars. The 86-89 A4 LB9s should average just better than that. With driver error and vehicle condition taken into account, you could lose.

And ******* , why is it that someone w/ a TTA / turbo buick always has to jump in to defend V6s. If you think a NA dura schleck ford 6 pooper has ANYTHING (except displacement) in common w/ a buick 6 w/ a hairdryer, you have serious mental issues. I don't think there is ANYONE on this planet who still thinks a turbo buick is 'just' a slow lil V6. And even if they did think that, you should be smart enough to not even waste your time in the argument, it's called being the bigger man. I swear, some people just shouldn't be allowed to buy fast cars.

btw, this post is being moved the the theoretical and street racing board....

 

If you are going to use HP numbers to discount someones claim, please get them right.2.8 V-6=135 HP,3.1 V-6=140HP I have never heard of a third gen six with 160HP.
Fourth gens have 200. Check tech.data

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86 Z-28,305,700r-4,t-top.
"DRIVE IT LIKE YOU STOLE IT!!!!!!!!!!"

 

i dont think he was talking about third gens , i think he was talking about the 3.4 160 hp 194 ft-lbs that came in 93-?? camaros

 

I know very little about the car I was racing, I just know it was a black 2000 camaro my friend had just got. She was letting me drive it when we pulled up next to the latest body model V6 mustang. I don't really know what year it was, but its not the 96ish body style, the newest one.

I beat it by about a length up to about 80 mph. He wasnt very far behind but I dont think he was pulling when I shut down.

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1992 Formula 350
-SLP 1 3/4 Headers
-Ported Plenum, Polished w/ polished runners
-Airfoil and other small bolt on mods

 

that would have the 3.8 in it manm , was it a 5 speed or an auto ? it doesnt really matter , the v6 stangs at the track i frequent have a hard time breaking the 15s , most of them dont

 

Most v6 mustangs are garbage, but the newer ones (99-up) have, on occasion, hit 14s in the best weather and a great driver. You never know on the street, but you should beat him with a good launch.

 

first off
Camaro Engines
93-95.5 3.4 liter v6
95.5+ 3.8 liter v6
the new mustangs 99+ have close to 200 horses.. My friends lil brother has one. Not slow. I think it will be a good race. I honestly think the mustang will give the 305 a race...if he gets the jump on you, he'll probably win.
just my .02

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1998 Ford Ranger 3.0 Cold air intake and flowmaster exhaust.
FOR SALE: 1995 Red T-Top Camaro...Got a ticket, now my insurance is too high...
1989 5.0 RS

 

94-98 V6's Mustangs were slow. 140HP and 3400 lbs will not do much. Those cars run in the 16's and most in the 17's.

The 99-up V6's have 200HP and if mated to a 5-spd are actually low 15 sec cars. Most however run high 15's to low 16's. Sometimes with perfect conditions and a good driver they can click off a 14.9 or so but it's very rare. I'd say more like high 15's is the norm

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Mike
--Black '88 Mustang LX 5.0L AOD--
BBK Headers, Off-Road H-pipe, MAC 2.5" Cat-back exhaust, UD Pulleys
3.73's, FMS "C" Springs, Tokico Shocks,
'93 Pony rims, Saleen Spoiler
5-spd swap VERY soon

-14.42 @ 98MPH (w/ 2.4 60-footer)-

 

I guess it was the 3800 then, sorry about that guys, I should get to know the V6 cars better I suppose.

 

when the 3.8 came out in 96 for the f-body, many magazines said that a stock with a 5-speed gave a mustang GT a good race. edmunds.com also said this. the autos that come in mustangs arent really that good unless built.

 

Isn't the 3.8 in the Mustang 160-180hp and 180-200 torque, and an 86? TPI is 190hp and 285 torque (mods = more) also new mustangs are 3300-3400 lbs. and camaro should be same or less.

I would say the camaro will win.

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1989 Trans Am GTA

 

Ive raced one, and beat him. I had a hard time taking the guy seriously when he reved his engine at the stoplight and I heard it was a V6. It was a 5 speed car, and I had him by a lot. I run a 15.0 with my LB9/auto so I'd say he may have been a high 15 second/low 16 second car. The guy said he had beaten other thirdgens with V8's (probably L03 or LG4) when we were stopped at the next light.

 

If your car is running good, and his is an auto, I say youll beat him. He probably has a high 15 second car. If it was a five speed, it would be closer but I still think you would probably take him. Just because they got a V6 Mustang to do a high 14 pass in a magazine doesnt mean they all run like that. They also got an LS1 Camaro to run high 12's and the norm for those is mid to low 13's, sometimes even high 13's in bad conditions.

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Teal Green 91 Camaro RS
305, Automatic Tranny
Stock for now

 

Come on,

Even if that v-6 mustang is producing 200 hp with his mods. the stock 305 tpi puts out 205 hp (auto) not to mention the mods this kids got. take another look at the first post. he'll wipe the floor with that stang.
oh how much torque do you think that stang is kicking out.

this is for the 1997 mustang gt
Engine: 4.6-liter single overhead camshaft V-8

Horsepower: 215



[This message has been edited by 87Irocz (edited November 14, 2001).]

 

A recent dyno an an auto 2000 Mustang showed 161hp @ the wheels and 191tq @ the wheels. I think that would put a stick at around 170 and 200. Nothing to sneeze at (will beat most ricers), but certainly not a rocket.

 

I'm going to vote for the camaro on this one.

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1988 Sport Coupe 305 TBI
K&N
Flowmaster 80


Daily driver:
1988 K1500 5.7 4x4 shortbed flowmaster cat-back gutted cat.
AIM: RyanNH84

 

hey camaro6spd a 305 has 230-240hp stock not 200 unless you have 1/2 million miles on the engine, well 305 and 350 are really close up to 60 if a 305 hits the gas hard it will be close but a 350 will have to take its time to 'grip' so i come to the conclusion that you will walk on him..............yea no need for applause but you should get a set of headers,and maybe even some heads and you will make a 350 have a lot of fun with you! you will win. but 350s are great....

 

Actually in 86 the 305 TPI's had something like 205 HP. The 305 TPI's didnt get 230 HP until 1991. Before that, the most HP they had was 215 I believe, but in 86 they had a less agressive cam and their HP was 205.


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Teal Green 91 Camaro RS
305, Automatic Tranny
Stock for now

 

94-98 V6 3.8 liter mustang runs mid 16's to low 17's. 99+ v6 mustangs run on the higher end of 15.

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• Red '91 Z-28 350
• 700-R4 Trans
• T-tops
• no major power
  gaining mods, K&N
  Filter, Flowmaster
  exhaust -series 80-,
  exhaust cut-outs
• Best E.T.= 14.7@93.8mph,
• HardlinePerformance
  [URL=http://www.hardlineperformance.8m.com/propics/camaro2.gif[/URL]

 

Jeeezzzz. Could we have a few more completely wrong hp ratings please? For crying out loud we have a frigging tech database right here on this site, you'd think people would at least look at it once and awhile...

86 305 TPI had 190hp and 285 ft-lbs
87 305 TPI auto had 195hp (alot of places list it at 190 still) and 295 ft-lbs
87 305 TPI 5spd had 215 hp
88 was 195 hp and 220 hp for auto and 5spd respectively
89 was the same 195 hp auto with a 230 hp 5spd motor (dual cats)
90-92 had 205 hp for the auto, and either 205 or 230 for the 5spd depending on whether or not you got the dual cats which got you the hotter 305 cam along with it.

I believe the 94-98 Mustang v6s made 150hp. They are pretty dirt slow. The 99+ 190hp is a big improvement.

In tune and running good I vote for the Camaro in this race though...

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Ray87Z
-Vortec headed 350.
86 IROC w/ a cammed 305 TPI.
Formerly Ray86IROC.
www.inter-scape.com/Ray

 

cool guys, thanx for the input,

I should have another one for u when that guy upgrades to a a 93 Gt, and I add some more mods to my car. I raced him the other day and I whomped the **** out of him! And my girl was in the car, he was by himself.

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1986 Metallic Blue IROC-Z
80k miles, 305 TPI
Mods:
-Edelbrock Hi-Flow baseplate
-Dynomax Cat-back
-gutted MAF
-K&N's
-airfoil
-shiftkit

 

i drove a 2000 mustang vert with v6 auto. it seemed like it had some decent nut. around 45-50 i think, wherever the shift point between second and third gear, if i slam the gas and it drops it into second, it will chirp the tires and get a little squirrely.

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87 Camaro LT
bone stock 305 w/ 700r4 0-60: 3 minutes
mods to come:
ground effects
93 camaro seats
99 camaro center console
91 z28 rims
white 145mph iroc gauges

 

If a 3.8 has 190hp and a 5.0 has 190hp and the cars weigh about the same the 5.0 should win because of a broader powerband. If the 3.8 vehicle is in a lighter car it might accelerate a little quicker. If I got a 5.0 and my buddy has a 3.8 and I don't want him to beat me then It shouldn't be hard to assure it.

 

I actually raced a '00 'stang at the track. I beat him by .5 of a second with my 305 running like s*** (needed some machine work), with it fixed now, they can't touch me. BTW the auto v-8s the new stangs have now don't pull on me until about 100.

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BAD@$$ bowtie enough said