Dart block fox vs me

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May 31, 2013 | 09:35 PM
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I ran my buddies Notch that goes 10.15 @133 on motor. I knew it was going to be an *** kicking and was right. He was on full slicks with skinnies up front.. It has a dart block with AFR heads and injected...Think it around 363 cubic inch? Anyway he put 6-7 cars on me 1/3 of the way through the 1/4 before he got out of it. My DRs had no traction. It would have been even uglier for me if he hit his 150 shot. I'm sure i'm going to hear about his for a while when I see him at work.
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Jun 1, 2013 | 01:30 AM
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What's your best times with your setup??im guessing mid to low 11s?
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Jun 1, 2013 | 11:49 AM
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Quote: What's your best times with your setup??im guessing mid to low 11s?
No tracks anywhere near me, if I was going to guess. I'd say with good traction 11.7-11.8
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Jun 1, 2013 | 03:35 PM
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Quote: I ran my buddies Notch that goes 10.15 @133 on motor. I knew it was going to be an *** kicking and was right...
Yeah, that's definitely taking it like a man. That's a very quick Notch...
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Jun 1, 2013 | 09:42 PM
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Even if you ran a 12.0-12.2 thats still a very respectable street car.
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Jun 2, 2013 | 11:03 AM
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How do you like the 280 cam?? Was thinking about using it for my build....what do you spin it to?
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Jun 2, 2013 | 08:18 PM
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Quote: How do you like the 280 cam?? Was thinking about using it for my build....what do you spin it to?
I like the 280xfi cam a lot, but you'll need the beehive springs. I shift at 6k.
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Jun 6, 2013 | 07:33 AM
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Your buddies notch is at least 400lbs lighter than your car.
And the aftermarket is so vast and cheap for a foxbody compared to the bolt ons for thirdgens,it isn't fair.

If your willing to remove the creature comforts/weight change some suspension around w/ a power adder you could beat him. But chances are he wouldn't run you if he thought you had a chance.
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Jun 6, 2013 | 08:14 AM
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I would think your car is a low 11s also,is it full weight? Your setup is a strong runner,traction being a big issue I bet.
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Jun 6, 2013 | 10:01 AM
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I think your exact setup in my 3380 pound car would make f
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Jun 6, 2013 | 10:02 AM
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For a solid mid 11 second car
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Jun 6, 2013 | 10:04 AM
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Mine weighs 3170 with me. Runs 6.90's eighth 10.90's 1/4 with 1.49 60' NA footbrake gotta
keep it in the groove though
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Jun 6, 2013 | 10:14 AM
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What all was done to achieve that weight?
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Jun 6, 2013 | 02:45 PM
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Fiberglass hood, aluminum heads, water pump,no powersteering,heat /ac,radio,wiper motor, fuel cell, front and rear sway bars removed but rear has S&W anti roll bar( heavier than both) but have an 8 point roll bar. Still have powers windows and full interior and carpet.
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Jun 6, 2013 | 03:13 PM
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You need a 175 shot to hang with him. Maybe a 200 lol
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Jun 26, 2013 | 11:34 AM
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Quote: Your buddies notch is at least 400lbs lighter than your car.
And the aftermarket is so vast and cheap for a foxbody compared to the bolt ons for thirdgens,it isn't fair.

If your willing to remove the creature comforts/weight change some suspension around w/ a power adder you could beat him. But chances are he wouldn't run you if he thought you had a chance.
Ford parts are NOT cheaper than SBC parts. I can definitely attest to that as I've had both vehicles. Look at ARP bolts, and you'll find one is literally double the price of the other... Just because. It's like that with quite a few Ford parts.


This is an older thread, but I saw this comment and wanted to clear that up. Not as many advantages as youde think besides weight difference.
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Jun 26, 2013 | 01:08 PM
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Not to be rude but I said in my post that foxbody parts are cheaper and there is a more vast aftermarket for em.

I did not say "ford parts are cheaper" as in engine parts
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Jun 26, 2013 | 02:42 PM
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Quote: Not to be rude but I said in my post that foxbody parts are cheaper and there is a more vast aftermarket for em.

I did not say "ford parts are cheaper" as in engine parts
About the only thing that really saved some money was the 8.8 rear and ease in finding gear sets for it. Everything else fox related is absolute wallet rape.. Especially if you want a notch. That's the one thing I don't miss, heh.

Not sure what you mean by "foxbody parts" because.. Well.. They're ford parts. And ford parts aren't cheap. Haha.
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Jun 26, 2013 | 06:37 PM
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Ha ha, I see what I'm dealing with here: Are you one them "post count experts"?
I mean foxbody parts like k members, drag shocks,upper and lower control arms, front and mid plates, quality ceramic coated headers,and like you mentioned, mustangs already have a capable rear end (8.8) so you at least $3k better off already. That could go to a killer set of heads or block. Not to mention THEY ARE LIGHTER than third gens.
And the "good SBC" parts arent cheaper than SBF parts either!
Build a SAFE 10 second mustang then a SAFE 10 second third gen and tell me then which is cheaper!
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Jun 26, 2013 | 07:42 PM
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fords are gay-

(you know thats true, don't lie...)
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Jun 26, 2013 | 08:21 PM
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I like anything that's fast if it wasn't for one brand the other would never be as fast...competition!
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Jun 26, 2013 | 08:59 PM
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Quote: Ha ha, I see what I'm dealing with here: Are you one them "post count experts"?
I mean foxbody parts like k members, drag shocks,upper and lower control arms, front and mid plates, quality ceramic coated headers,and like you mentioned, mustangs already have a capable rear end (8.8) so you at least $3k better off already. That could go to a killer set of heads or block. Not to mention THEY ARE LIGHTER than third gens.
And the "good SBC" parts arent cheaper than SBF parts either!
Build a SAFE 10 second mustang then a SAFE 10 second third gen and tell me then which is cheaper!
Nah, post count means nothing to me.. And certainly no "expert". I said I've had and built both. I decided to say something because you put the fox platform on a pedestal spotlight when it's really not that big of a deal in the scheme of things. The cost is not as big of as a gaping hole as you make it sound because like I said, many parts are literally double the price for Ford pieces of the SAME quality. If they arent, theyre generally hiked at least $25-40 per hundred you spend which adds up real, REAL fast. Any "saved" money goes right down the toilet since youre down by 48 cubes right off the bat and need a replacement. Thats IF you can find one without dropping change on a Dart block. The only foxes that have a serious weight advantage are notches. GT's are tanks, and LX's aren't much better with the exception of a barebones 0 option LX.

You will spend large amounts in different areas of both cars. It ends up equaiting to similar costs.. Simply spent different.. Especially if you're building a 10 second car out of both of them and replacing everything.
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Jun 28, 2013 | 06:00 PM
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Yet the reason I got the 80 coupe. It is 2680 as it sits without me in it with the carbed 6.0. The converter is way too tight, so it is slower than my 89 that was 3150 lbs. I had 4.30s in the 89 and this coupe has 3.73 for now. But it traps 2 more mph running a slower time. Just tons left in this car.

I did get a 89 formula that I wanted to build till I saw the condition. Going to scrap it. Makes me sad but it needs way too much work.
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Jun 28, 2013 | 06:05 PM
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And I will add that they are both stripped to the minimal carpet and seats ect. No AC, no front, rear or door impact bars. BUT, the 89 had a glass hood, the coupe has a stock steel hood. But again, the coupe came with a tubular K member and the camaro had a stocker. Either way, 400 pounds weight advantage off the go.
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Jun 28, 2013 | 06:56 PM
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What's the diffence in the 60' of the two mustangs?
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Jun 28, 2013 | 08:58 PM
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The camaro would hit a 1.5 all day and the mustang is 1.7s. Once I get the converter situated and deep gears, it will be 1.4s and get where I want it so I can spray.
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Jul 10, 2013 | 07:40 PM
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I saw the guy at work with the notch today. He asked me if I wanted another shot then he showed me some new pics of his car, he just put in some mini tubs out back for a 325mm wide tires. I told he I think I'll pass on the rematch.
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Jul 10, 2013 | 08:11 PM
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Still fun to try. Keep yours a driver their more fun that way....trust me.
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Jul 11, 2013 | 06:30 AM
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Quote: I saw the guy at work with the notch today. He asked me if I wanted another shot then he showed me some new pics of his car, he just put in some mini tubs out back for a 325mm wide tires. I told he I think I'll pass on the rematch.
I would run him just to watch him go.
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