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Old Feb 12, 2002 | 10:48 PM
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here is a link to a turbo minivan........i think it runs like 11's or so......the link isnt working for me right now but maybe it will for you guys.......

turbo minivan
Old Feb 13, 2002 | 07:00 PM
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here is a link to a turbo minivan........i think it runs like 11's or so......the link isnt working for me right now but maybe it will for you guys.......

turbo minivan
Actually it runs mid 12's last time I saw it
Old Feb 13, 2002 | 10:42 PM
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11's.....12's......its all the same....JK!!!!
but its still awesome!!!
Old Feb 14, 2002 | 02:44 AM
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and look so much better its not even something to joke about.

Don't mean to hop in here and bother you all. I usually don't come to this board, too much arguing and people pulling facts from no where and such. Too much "if and" stuff.

But the comment above got me... a good looking GN is a beautiful car. I would take a good GN in a heartbeat. Throw some GNX fenderflares, some 17s and a new perfect black paint job.. the car is perfect. Even has a hint of luxuary in it. The weird thing of course is I don't like regals... and that's what they are based on.

Oh well, back to the flaming/arguing.
Old Feb 14, 2002 | 07:54 AM
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check out this GN....its AWESOME!!!!.....and yah i love GN's too....there was a guy at the strip last time i went running 11's....oh wait he coulda been running 12's.....since i get those 2 #'s mixed up.....
Old Feb 14, 2002 | 08:08 AM
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yeea maybe it will post this time
Old Feb 16, 2002 | 08:53 PM
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Interesting mods, the header mod is really odd since the stocker will go 10's, if its the stock turbo and intercooler, which I doubt, mid to low 12's would be really good, proally has a bigger turbo and injectors!! I mean its possible on the stock stuff just unlikely.

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i dont know....this is what the turbo 6 guy tellls me who says hes his brother..i dont know much about working with grand nationals since i have never owned one!
Old Feb 16, 2002 | 11:25 PM
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Sorry but I just don't buy it. I would have to see some pictures. Mostly of the S-10 and minivan. A turbo off of a 444 ci diesel seems like a bit of an overkill. A S-10 that is streetable and still run a 170 mph in the quarter is also a little hard to believe. What other mods are in the S-10. Sorry just my opinion.

P.S. Maybe I could send you my old Ford diesel pickup and you could get it running in the 10 second range for me.
Old Feb 17, 2002 | 12:32 AM
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Originally posted by jackdakilla
the car is set up for autox(thats why it hooks so well)
if anything that would make it harder for the car to hook up

you set the car up for auto-x that means a lot more camber then a drag car. a drag car will pull what 0* camber, while some cars for auto-x will pull around 1-2* of camber

that is going to make less contact patch for a straight line run with a aut-x setup, but when you are in the turns and the car is leaning then hey you are now putting more tire on the ground.

also you have the issue with a front sway bar
with that you are going to have less weight transfer to the rear tires.

then we can start to get into toe in/out and how that will make the car have a faster turn in or help keep the rear more stable and is used a lot on aut-x cars. though on a drag car I think it can cause the wheel hop and also would put some more drag on the car.
dont forget about spring rates,shock setups,and all that good stuff and how they affect weight transfer

what you do to a drag car to get it to hook up more often then not will make the car harder to drive on an auto-x run


and I would really like a full list of mods for what you are driving on both the S-10 and the camaro
not some small list but a FULL list of mods and if you want to make a copy of the timeslips I will give you a mailing addy and I can post them on this forum since I do have a scanner. I could even cover the cost of a stamp to mail it.
just from what you state in your mods though I am sorry but I dont really see you pulling those stated times in either car

though as far as killing a GN if it went on then I have to say good kill, just hope you are telling the truth here.
Old Feb 17, 2002 | 01:14 AM
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There are too many holes in your story


1. You cant heavily port a CFI intake because there is nothing there to port! If you want to debate this point I will provide pictures , since I have one sitting in my garage.

2. 7500 rpm from a CFI intake on a 305 is so far fetched that I think that you may be joking instead of trying to pull off a lie.


3. If it was setup for autocross you would have less traction , not more due to less weight transfer.

4. That cam with those heads and valve sizes would be pushing valves into and through the cylinder walls.



Some of you are fooled WAY to easy.
Old Feb 17, 2002 | 02:48 AM
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Originally posted by evil t/a



There are too many holes in your story


1. You cant heavily port a CFI intake because there is nothing there to port! If you want to debate this point I will provide pictures , since I have one sitting in my garage.

2. 7500 rpm from a CFI intake on a 305 is so far fetched that I think that you may be joking instead of trying to pull off a lie.


3. If it was setup for autocross you would have less traction , not more due to less weight transfer.

4. That cam with those heads and valve sizes would be pushing valves into and through the cylinder walls.



Some of you are fooled WAY to easy.
Amen
Old Feb 17, 2002 | 03:01 AM
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Old Feb 17, 2002 | 04:26 AM
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<b>and the car weighs 2800lbs with me in it and i have a tremec tko 5sped </b>
Just out of curiousity, Not saying anything about anything, but dont our cars weigh in at over 3500 Lbs.? 2800 Lbs sounds like a gutted / tubed car, not a thirdgen body.
And what about that 5 Speed? Those things handle 7500 RPM revvs easy enough? What kind of clutch is this guy using to push that top end? look at the cam duration! it must not make power in that 305 till about 3800 RPMS and unless he has some serious billet / lightened rotating assembly that thing will not spin 7800 RPMS? Sure ANYTHING is possible but... I have my doubts... And anyone that has a computer can afford to take a regular picture, go to a friends house and scan it in then upload it, How hard is that? I dont have a camera or scanner or printer, but i still manage using all my friends goodies. what gives? take 3 pictures and then everyone may beleive you.
Old Feb 17, 2002 | 06:36 AM
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Originally posted by Kingtal0n
[B I dont have a camera or scanner or printer, but i still manage using all my friends goodies. what gives? take 3 pictures and then everyone may beleive you. [/B]
Pictures still don't mean squat. I can take pics of a buddy of mines 9 second Mustang, known as the Puzzle Car, and say it's mine. Who's to know, unless people on here know me personally or know the car that I am trying to say is mine.

Oh, my 305 runs 9's on the stock internals at 155mph.
I don't own camera or scanner either so I can't show you my car or my motor.
Old Feb 17, 2002 | 07:39 AM
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I don't know Zepher! Those times seem like to me!

I think you're full of it!

And you wouldn't know what a hot chick looks like if she got nekkid in front of you for a few pics!

You're warped!

And your damn pics are always too big for my dial-up you shmuck!
Old Feb 17, 2002 | 08:45 AM
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Originally posted by Poppa Chubby
I don't know Zepher! Those times seem like to me!

I think you're full of it!

And you wouldn't know what a hot chick looks like if she got nekkid in front of you for a few pics!

You're warped!

And your damn pics are always too big for my dial-up you shmuck!
I can't help it, it's just me.
Old Feb 17, 2002 | 10:55 AM
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Old Feb 17, 2002 | 11:10 AM
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Originally posted by jackdakilla
i the 305 CFI is in the 11s i wanted to do something diffrent after i removed the LT4 motor from my Z/28...and i needed a intake that could make power up high(redline is 7800rpm)....i got the car dynod and it is makin 443hp at 7500rpm...400ft/lbs of torque at 6000rpm wit the 305 CFI and one of the passanger side injectors wasnt firing right leting the airfuel lean out a bit...

Hmmm more:

5. Cfi is the worst flowing manifold out there so why would you choose or even lie about chosing one for high RPM?


6. If you have ever actually looked at a CFI manifold you would notice that there is only 1 injector per throttle body . So your statement about one of the passenger side injectors not firing right during your 443 hp at 7500 rpm dyno run is



Here a lesson for you : If you are going to lie , at least tell one that cant be disproven without seeing your car. I am sure that you put a lot of effort into this and thought that people would pat you on that back (which some fools did) , but you have been busted.


Those that believed him? fools
Old Feb 17, 2002 | 11:16 AM
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Originally posted by 85transamtpi
Really guys,

I beleive 100% that a 305 with a great set of heads and a large cam can be a great performer. Im sure the 4:10 gears help out a lot getting the motor into its powerband quickly. And I have seen the CFI setup do very well (after some mods). Would you guys beleive him if he said he was running an aftermarket tbi setup? cause thats basicly what it is. Anyway, nice car! Nice kill! no bs call here.

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Old Feb 17, 2002 | 11:17 AM
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Originally posted by 1982chevycamaroz28
before i saw ur sig. i was about to but since i saw ur sig i believe ya, sweet kill man.
Old Feb 17, 2002 | 11:18 AM
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Originally posted by Mark A Shields


Exactly, I was like 7500 rpms yeah right. I bet that GN has some respect for Camaros now.
Old Feb 17, 2002 | 11:19 AM
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Originally posted by IROCThe5.7L
I believe him



1991 Camaro Z/28 Hardtop Met Blue
LT4 best time: 11.5@126mph
305 CFI best time: 11.8@121mph

1985 Chevy S10
Twin Turbo Intercooled 4.3 V6
Best time: 8.6@170mph

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Best time: 14.4@98mph
Old Feb 17, 2002 | 11:21 AM
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Originally posted by 5.0mustang
I believe him. You guys are the ones with 305s and you don't think they can go that fast. I know for a fact that the 5.0 in the Mustang can run 11s all motor, and I'm sure there are guys running 9s in 305s with some boost. With the experience I've had with my friends and their GNs, I can say that small motor turbos can run impressive times, and still be streetable. I've also seen 12 second Turboed vans, so I believe him 100%.

Welcome
Old Feb 17, 2002 | 11:22 AM
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Originally posted by BloodRedDragon
I think some of you missed the whole point of what this guy has done with his car. He had a LT4 in the car, but decided to see what he could do with a 305. Now what he did to make the 305 fast may be highly unusual, but it's not unrealistic. I congratulate him for spitting in the face of normalcy to successfully create something unique and fast. Good kill.
Old Feb 17, 2002 | 11:25 AM
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Originally posted by IROCZTWENTYGR8


Dude after reading what he has in his cars you still call BS??


Funniest line ever! I geuss if someone puts it in their sig then it must be true huh?
Old Feb 17, 2002 | 11:49 AM
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LOL yep



oh and evil T/A calm down bud dont want to scare the children away now
Old Feb 17, 2002 | 02:21 PM
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Guess you gotta call it like you see it:
Old Feb 17, 2002 | 08:03 PM
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WOW! there is light at the end of the tunnel! :hail:
Old Feb 17, 2002 | 10:44 PM
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Originally posted by evil t/a



Hmmm more:

5. Cfi is the worst flowing manifold out there so why would you choose or even lie about chosing one for high RPM?


6. If you have ever actually looked at a CFI manifold you would notice that there is only 1 injector per throttle body . So your statement about one of the passenger side injectors not firing right during your 443 hp at 7500 rpm dyno run is



Here a lesson for you : If you are going to lie , at least tell one that cant be disproven without seeing your car. I am sure that you put a lot of effort into this and thought that people would pat you on that back (which some fools did) , but you have been busted.


Those that believed him? fools
Ok so maybe now I am starting to think this is BS too but: there is a few flaws with your statements here. He said originally that he has 2 500cfm 2 barrel throttle bodies with a 7477 computer, so I dont think he still has 1 injector per throttle body! You said earlier that you can't heavily port the CFI unit but he can shorten the runners on the inside (you own one so you know when you open it up) and I think you can hit upwards of 7000rpm with the CFI just because of it's inside volume. I dont really know for sure because I am not a CFI expert, but wasn't the '69 302 Cross Ram an 8000rpm car?? Now that I think about it yeah, I sort of agree with you calling BS and maybe he will come back and respond.
Old Feb 17, 2002 | 11:02 PM
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oh yeah and I just read that he has supercomp headers on his turbo charged V6....what a moron. I cant believe some you guys actually swallowed this crap. Where you at JACK?!

Probably hanging out on the V6 board
Old Feb 17, 2002 | 11:29 PM
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What do you need to run with a turbo charger? I always thought that you use manifolds but some companies make headers for the GNs. Do you know what you can use with turbos vortecfcar?
Old Feb 17, 2002 | 11:54 PM
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Are you people really that gullible? I fear for the future...
Old Feb 18, 2002 | 12:08 PM
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turbos can use something like a header but you can not just bolt on a normal header for a turbo car
they have a different type of flange on them that will bolt up to the manifold

also they tend to be a differenct shape that way you can fit the manifold into the car with the turbo sticking off of it
Old Feb 18, 2002 | 02:45 PM
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in gn land they are know simply as headers, nothing more nothing less, with the import crowd they call them manifolds. i always thought anything made of cast iron was an exhaust manifold and tubular steel was a header.
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