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Old Dec 12, 2002 | 02:10 PM
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What does a stock 1988 GTA run in the 1/4?

Im just curious what a 1988 GTA T/A runs in the 1/4 mile eqipped with a 5spd and a 305tpi. (In stock form of coarse)

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Old Dec 12, 2002 | 02:13 PM
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Old Dec 12, 2002 | 02:14 PM
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ER... I MEANT 15.2


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Old Dec 12, 2002 | 02:14 PM
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Originally posted by easySPEEDcamaro
18.2


*** THAT!
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Old Dec 12, 2002 | 02:14 PM
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I'm not positive here but probalby from the high 15' to 17's I would think. Somewhere in that range depending on the driver.
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Old Dec 12, 2002 | 02:14 PM
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Old Dec 12, 2002 | 02:15 PM
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I'm not positive here but probalby from the high 15' to 17's I would think. Somewhere in that range depending on the driver.
no

i have a stock 305 tpi with 5-speed camaro.

my best run was a 15.176 but i'm a fabulous driver soooo
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Old Dec 12, 2002 | 02:51 PM
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I would say I high 15's 15.7/15.8.....but what do I know I am a TBI guy with an Auto!
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Old Dec 12, 2002 | 03:59 PM
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If you got a real 305 with REAL gears in the back you should ook at about 15.0 maybe squeak in 14.9... i did.. then I put some pulleys free mods, free flowing exhuast and home made ram air..
and I nailed a 14.5 with a 2.225 60' time...

check my sig for dyno results!
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Old Dec 12, 2002 | 04:05 PM
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I hope that "real 305 ....with real gears" wasnt directed at my baby!

Although the L03 isnt the quickest....It could be a lot worse and I could have a LG4.....oh

Next year will be different for this L03!
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Old Dec 12, 2002 | 04:13 PM
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my LG4 was faster than all you TBI guys

and for the 88 GTA, i would think mid 15s in stock form, maybe 15.3 if can really drive
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Old Dec 12, 2002 | 04:14 PM
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A 1988 305 TPI 5spd ran the quarter mile in about roughly 15.2. It wasn't until after 1990 when they came with the hot cam that you could hit 15 flat or even squeek into the 14's. East has 92 without the G92 and ran a 15.1. STIFFLER has a 92 G92 equipped car and got into the 14's. So....expect to run low 15's.

Hope this helps.
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Old Dec 12, 2002 | 04:15 PM
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Sorry....I forgot all about that LG4 on steroids you got there.....my bad!
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Old Dec 12, 2002 | 04:17 PM
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hahahah......

the key word was "was", its sitting doing nothing in my friends garage now.
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Old Dec 12, 2002 | 04:38 PM
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Brad's LG4 was also a far cry from typical LG4 engines...

he wussed out and got a 355 before we could match mods...

So if I build a 350 you'll go 400 block? lol
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Old Dec 12, 2002 | 04:42 PM
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nah...i am gonna keep my 350 for awhile. if you build a 350 i will just make my 350 faster. heheheh

although a destroke 400 would be pretty cool......hmmmm.....
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Old Dec 12, 2002 | 05:31 PM
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mmm 400 block...
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Old Dec 12, 2002 | 05:41 PM
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Originally posted by darbleinad
although a destroke 400 would be pretty cool......hmmmm.....
That's a dangerous thing to say around here.... a 383 will always make more power than a 377 mod for mod...

But a 377 has the power up high... if you wanna take ricers from a roll go 377... if you wanna compete on the strip go 400/383.

The only other reason to go 377 is because you can do it on a budget.
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Old Dec 12, 2002 | 05:46 PM
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hhahah...very true......i just like budget aspect of it.

then again, any further build up of my 355 is out of the question, due to budget constraints. hahaha
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Old Dec 13, 2002 | 12:11 AM
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What would it take to make it a mid to low 14 sec daily driver without taking the heads off? can it be done? would it still get good gas milage?
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Old Dec 13, 2002 | 12:40 AM
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well you will get alot of different responses on this one. Stiffler is the guy to talk to. his 92 Z is quick. he will have some great tips.

but seeing as i am up, i will give you some ideas:

- free flowing cold air intake with high flow filter. this is a cheap and effective mod

- headers, mandrel bent y-pipe, high flow cat (if you need one, if you know how to get around emissions, just run a piece of pipe), and good 3" cat-back exhaust system with a high flow muffler (i like true dual exhaust myself, but a cat-back will do just fine and is more functional for a daily driver)

- new cam, lifters, springs, and push rods. i say push rods cause your car has a high mileage. with the 5 speed and roller cam setup you can get something with fairly substantial lift. however, unless you want to get into custom chips, make sure the cam and the stock computer will get along

- 1.6:1 roller rockers will help out as well, but arent necessary

- adjustable fuel pressure regulator

- 3.42 or 3.73 rear end gears. normally 3.73s are better, but the TPI setups dont like high rpms near as much as carbs, so 3.42s might be better for you

anyway that should get you to your goal no problem. Stiffler will be able to give you some more details on what he has done to get his car where it is and Daz and Acceld Z know tons about TPI systems and good cams for TPI. these are the guys to talk to.
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Old Dec 13, 2002 | 12:41 AM
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From: "No one cares if you're in before the lock!" - Best quote ever.
my best run was a 15.176 but i'm a fabulous driver soooo

...HOW many clutches did you go through....? Or Transmissions, or whatever...? lol
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Old Dec 13, 2002 | 12:42 AM
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hahaha ...own3d.
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Old Dec 13, 2002 | 12:50 AM
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Originally posted by tanager11
I hope that "real 305 ....with real gears" wasnt directed at my baby!

Although the L03 isnt the quickest....It could be a lot worse and I could have a LG4.....oh

Next year will be different for this L03!
Oohhhh Dude, that was real low...you might have to eat those words...
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Old Dec 13, 2002 | 04:50 AM
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I figured that comment would get a rise out of ya Kevin.....ha ha it seemed like the perfect opportunity!
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Old Dec 13, 2002 | 07:43 AM
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I figured that comment would get a rise out of ya Kevin.....ha ha it seemed like the perfect opportunity!
Fear the L36 !

'nuff said
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Old Dec 13, 2002 | 09:38 AM
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I distance myself from the other TBI guy... on track that is

he's got headers too while I run the stock junk
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Old Dec 13, 2002 | 09:57 AM
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Easy now there slade....ha ha Its only a matter of time before I swap out that brutal cat back and reap the full rewards of those headers on the Mighty L03.......Also I think my engine/tranny are both in dire need of a rebuild...maybe next year.
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Old Dec 13, 2002 | 10:03 AM
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Originally posted by tanager11
Easy now there slade....ha ha Its only a matter of time before I swap out that brutal cat back and reap the full rewards of those headers on the Mighty L03.......Also I think my engine/tranny are both in dire need of a rebuild...maybe next year.

here come the excuses

seriously though you ran strong in october. next year should prove interesting.
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Old Dec 13, 2002 | 10:10 AM
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Excuses..yep you know it!!

Yep I agree that next year should prove to be interesting... one way or another.
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Old Dec 13, 2002 | 10:30 AM
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Yes, it will be very interesting indeed, with comments like that. You give me the incentive to go and do something that I wasn't planning on doing just yet. Hmmmmmm, what could it be....I guess it will have to wait for the next track day...
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Old Dec 13, 2002 | 11:03 AM
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I'm gunning to break into 14's first track day...

on another note, costco had a grinding bit kit set...
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Old Dec 13, 2002 | 11:07 AM
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hmmmmm....and what would slade be using a Grinding bit set for.....geez let me think about that one.

You guys know I am just kidding arround, just sturring the pot a little...but regardless I am interested to see what everone's winter mods do to their 1/4 mile times.
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Old Dec 13, 2002 | 11:14 AM
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This is not for the black 1989 GTA i have tha one has a 350tpi with 395k
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Old Dec 13, 2002 | 12:50 PM
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You live in Brampton too? I'd like to see this 395 k car.. mine's got 310 K only
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Old Dec 13, 2002 | 01:24 PM
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Dave : seeing how you were knocking LG4's ........i just thought i'd remind you that you & i have a .5 difference ......WITH MY LG4 and you're TBI with headers VS my carb with no headers and basicly stock @16.3 and probly could of brought it down to 16.0 if i had more fuel with me at Cayuga ......cause my gauge went to $hit on me

.............J/K buddy .......

Mark


Although the L03 isnt the quickest....It could be a lot worse and I could have a LG4.....oh
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Old Dec 13, 2002 | 02:35 PM
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Once again I'd like to distance myself from this fight... and once again I mean on track hehe

The 310000Km LO3 that will take Mark's and Dave's car hehe
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Old Dec 13, 2002 | 03:06 PM
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look what I started!!!!! yeiks!

Regardless a decent tuned fairly stock L03 should take a the same in a LG4...
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Old Dec 13, 2002 | 04:47 PM
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Originally posted by mustangssuckass
What would it take to make it a mid to low 14 sec daily driver without taking the heads off? can it be done? would it still get good gas milage?
I haven't takin the heads off.. but here's the list of mods you should do to get mid to low 14's

CHEAP MODS:

Cold air induction---works wonders $10 Home depot
Port Plenum- helps out a little about $10 bucks if you have a dremel tool already
TB Bypass----- I don't think it does anything but hey I see where it can warm up the air.. $2
TPI Airfoil $20 to $50 find it on ebay

Expensive ones
Set of headers anywhere's from $100 to $1000 SLP's are great
Free up your exhuast (Dynomax ultra Flow works wonders..

Don't buy any aftermarket chips because they are crap espcially HYPERCRAP.. **Everyone from dyno day will tell you my look on my face when it made 1hp..... if that!! STILL PISSED!! AHAHAHHA

And oh ya!! Don't listen to these guys promoting the LG4, LO3...

When the **** LB9**** rules supreme in 305's

That should get the 305 pot stirred!!
hehehehhehee
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Old Dec 13, 2002 | 08:35 PM
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Originally posted by tanager11
I hope that "real 305 ....with real gears" wasnt directed at my baby!

Although the L03 isnt the quickest....It could be a lot worse and I could have a LG4.....oh

Next year will be different for this L03!


Them fighting words tanager........
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Old Dec 14, 2002 | 12:50 AM
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You had better watch yourself, Dave. I think it might be an omen that there are 2 TA's that both have LG4's and both have a driver named Kevin, gunning for ya...
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