leap then cherp?normal?

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Jul 25, 2003 | 08:13 PM
  #1  
k first let me say my kick down wire it not hooked up yet still wateing for it to come. so now if i WOT when it changes to seconds gear the car leaps and chips the tires. is that normal or is it because the kick down wire? i just dont wanna brake anything because this kick down wire not being hooked up.
oh its a 350 tranny.
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Jul 26, 2003 | 01:42 AM
  #2  
The kickdown cable is, for all intents and purposes, irrelevant to the upshift on 1-2. The chirp is because you likely have a shift kit of some sort installed- but the "leap" is not correct. If you "leap" before the chirp the shift kit is either not functioning correctly or your slipping badly on the initiation of the 1-2 shift (i.e. real tranny problem). If you believe you are "leaping" after the chirp- it may just be your perception- the "leap" is not a "leap" but in fact a stall- tire speed is slowed by sudden gear change (1 to 2) and the corresponding engine RPM drop- i.e. the tires have to catch up to vehicle speed and "grab"- thus the chirp and temporary slowdown/pause. If you have a 700-R4 the 1-2 stall is particularly nasty because of the huge 3.06:1 to 1 gear to 1.62:1 gear. On a TH-350 it isn't nearly as bad because the gear change is 2.52:1 to 1.52:1.

I am going to assume that you have either higher (numeric) gears (i.e. 3.23 or 3.42) and/or a stock-type stall converter to make the TH-350 chirp significantly anyways- lower gears and/or a higher stall tend to "cushion" the wheel slowdown of the 1-2 shift.
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Jul 27, 2003 | 08:39 AM
  #3  
The kickdown cable has a lot to do with your 1-2 shift!!! The kickdown cable has to do with the line pressure and at what point the tranny shifts. I don't know much about the 350, but if it requires a kickdown and it's not installed, then you will have problems.
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Jul 27, 2003 | 10:50 PM
  #4  
Yes- the kickdown controls line pressure for DOWNSHIFTS- not UPSHIFTS and since their is no downshift from 1st gear it is irrelevant. If you had a kickdown installed but set way too tight- it would affect line pressures negatively in all gears- but disconnected it affects nothing but proper downshifting- Many people have disconnected the kickdown cable on the TH-350 permanently with no ill effects except of course all downshifts have to be done manually. This is not a 200-4R or a 700-R4 or 4L.. series and we are not talking about a TV cable.
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Jul 28, 2003 | 10:28 AM
  #5  
I apologize, I was mistaking it for the TV cable.
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Jul 28, 2003 | 08:09 PM
  #6  
k kool atleast i no i am not brakeing anything. so the kick down has nothing to do with your take off at WOT? only when i am just driveing normal and slam on the gas it wont down shift?
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Jul 28, 2003 | 11:22 PM
  #7  
Correct. But have you yet determined the exact nature of this "leaping" you mentioned?
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Jul 28, 2003 | 11:37 PM
  #8  
nope people keep saying it because my kick down wire, but who knows i am gunna replace it soon so i will find out then. but anyway with the leap feeling it give when going it to second it feels like a really smooth leap not like a jolt or hard (its hard to explain into words) but the leap is what make my tires chirp, and i was told that tranny work was done to it, it was rebuilt not to long ago, so i am thinking it might be normal, because its sort of like a boost (shift kit type thing) and with all the other gear i can barley feel it change (feels perfect) so i am hopeing that its normal. i am gunna be getting the kick down wire installed this week at a tranny shop so i am going to have them check out the tranny for me. but say something was not right, wouldnt the shift be like really hard and just feel wrong?
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