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Old May 5, 2004 | 03:48 PM
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Car: 1984 pontiac trans am
Engine: Block #14010209...350...80-85
Transmission: 700 R4
I know, prob been talked about but looking for 350 questions

Im looking for a 350 perferrably new or used. But questions are what should i look for in the 350 obviously low milage. But other then that i know very little.

specs: looking to spend 3-5thousand
new vs used vs broken/rebuild?
components?
i would like to simply just drop it in
-350 vs 350, L98, zz4, 350 crate
-will be an everyday driver but will take it to the track every now and then gas is an issue sort of as long as it doesn't get like 100-150k/tank its good.
-compatible with 700R4 or should i upgrade to standard T5 or something (not familiar with tranny's)
-fuel injected vs carburated (simplicity factor and lil bit gas)
- hp vs tq
ill probably have other questions later.

hope you can provide me with a lil bit of info to make a good decision
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Old May 5, 2004 | 06:41 PM
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Car: 83WS6TA
Engine: ZZ4
Transmission: TH350C
Axle/Gears: 3:23
If I had a pot to **** in I would go with a carbed ZZ4 which is good for about 350 HP and can be obtained for a bit less than $5000 Cdn. It can be upgraded with cam and rockers to about 400HP or so.

There is also the HO Delux which isn't too bad and costs less.

Opinions will vary but IMO crates are a good deal and less likely to blow up in your face. Also, carbs are preferable IMO - better power to dollar ratio.

I would also swap in a Tremec T56 rather than keep the autotrans but that's a bit expensive.

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Old May 5, 2004 | 06:57 PM
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3-5K????

Carb vs FI???

Go with a rebuild, it will ALWAYS be much cheaper than a crate & can make more power per dollar.....

What kind of car is it & is it your daily driver etc....?

For a mild 350HP combo, i would do this:

-350, rebuilt (355 or whatever ~9.3:1 compression)
-Edelbrock RPM Vortec intake (not sure if it clears a stock hood)
-Comp XE268 cam (if you have a roller block, i suggest the same cam in a roller series)
-Vortec Heads
-600cfm Holley
-some headers & an aftermarket exhaust


This is a very common motor, the cam will kill a tad of the low RPM torque making traction on street tires a bit easier to get, and easier on your rearend. It will be a very strong puller from 2500-5000 so lots of midrange.
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Old May 5, 2004 | 08:28 PM
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Car: 1984 pontiac trans am
Engine: Block #14010209...350...80-85
Transmission: 700 R4
For a mild 350HP combo, i would do this:

-350, rebuilt (355 or whatever ~9.3:1 compression)
-Edelbrock RPM Vortec intake (not sure if it clears a stock hood)
-Comp XE268 cam (if you have a roller block, i suggest the same cam in a roller series)
-Vortec Heads
-600cfm Holley
-some headers & an aftermarket exhaust





question: any rebuilt 350 will do or does it have to be like a L98 or something new/old? or is it a 350 in general?

currently i have an 84 pontiac Trans AM 5L 305 non HO 4 barrel carb. Looking for something with a lil more punch. and im sick of all the ricers thinking they have chance when the line up agasint me.

another what sort of rear end would you go for with that combo?
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Old May 6, 2004 | 12:25 AM
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Curtis any 350 block will do. If you have a choice, and plan on making a quick streetcar, i would go with a roller 350 block. If not, then no big deal, just with the roller you have a little more potential to make power.

For the rear gears, some 3.42 would go good, but since you have the OD transmission (700R4), a set of 3.73's would be great.
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Old May 6, 2004 | 02:58 AM
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Car: 92Z28, 99SS, 83Z28 & 86GTA
Engine: 421, LS1, 327Turbo & 383
Transmission: T-56, 4L60E, T5 & 4L60
Axle/Gears: 4:10, 3:42, 2:73 & 3:27
Originally posted by Stroked-Z

-350, rebuilt (355 or whatever ~9.3:1 compression)
-Edelbrock RPM Vortec intake (not sure if it clears a stock hood)
-Comp XE268 cam (if you have a roller block, i suggest the same cam in a roller series)
-Vortec Heads
-600cfm Holley
-some headers & an aftermarket exhaust
That setup would work great.

Also, talk to Louich. He's the guy with the 9.9 second Firebird. He's who built my motor for me. Anyway's he always has a few 350 and 400's laying around.

He even has one fully rebuilt sitting on an engine stand in his shops front office forsale.

P.M. If your interested and I'll get ya his number.

As for carb vs Injection. I am an injection fan, but plain truth is carberators are a much cheaper/easier bang for the buck.
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Old May 6, 2004 | 09:35 PM
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Hey Hawk,

I saw the one sitting on the stand in his front office. I agree, spend half the money to buy that setup and then the other half to further increase power if wanted or to do rear diff, suspension, etc. Best bang for the buck of the options here.

Scott
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Old May 7, 2004 | 02:53 AM
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Car: 92Z28, 99SS, 83Z28 & 86GTA
Engine: 421, LS1, 327Turbo & 383
Transmission: T-56, 4L60E, T5 & 4L60
Axle/Gears: 4:10, 3:42, 2:73 & 3:27
Does that thing not looks sweet or what
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Old May 7, 2004 | 02:59 PM
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Car: 1984 pontiac trans am
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well with 350 ill probably want to get posi rear, true duels with booms on the end. um probably rear shocks and ssprings. and maybe front shocks and thats gonna be it for awhile.
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Old May 7, 2004 | 09:12 PM
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Does that thing not looks sweet or what
Yeah, made me second guess all the money I've spent on my engine, for that price would have been much better to just go with that. Looks sweet too, would make a real nice show piece when you open your hood. Almost to pretty to put in a car
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Old May 8, 2004 | 11:02 AM
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Car: 92Z28, 99SS, 83Z28 & 86GTA
Engine: 421, LS1, 327Turbo & 383
Transmission: T-56, 4L60E, T5 & 4L60
Axle/Gears: 4:10, 3:42, 2:73 & 3:27
I got a pic of it here

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Old May 8, 2004 | 11:05 AM
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Car: 92Z28, 99SS, 83Z28 & 86GTA
Engine: 421, LS1, 327Turbo & 383
Transmission: T-56, 4L60E, T5 & 4L60
Axle/Gears: 4:10, 3:42, 2:73 & 3:27
oops lets try that again
Attached Thumbnails I know, prob been talked about but looking for 350 questions-350-060-over.jpg  
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Old May 8, 2004 | 01:16 PM
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Engine: ZZ4
Transmission: TH350C
Axle/Gears: 3:23
Any details on that motor and price also.
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Old May 8, 2004 | 01:21 PM
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Hey George,

There are complete details on www.kwfbody.com. It is a 350 with lots of work done, got a 327/350hp cam in it, etc

Price is $2600

Scott

Sweet looking isn't it
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Old May 9, 2004 | 10:17 AM
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Yeah Scott that would look nice in my car.
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Old May 9, 2004 | 10:37 AM
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Car: 92Z28, 99SS, 83Z28 & 86GTA
Engine: 421, LS1, 327Turbo & 383
Transmission: T-56, 4L60E, T5 & 4L60
Axle/Gears: 4:10, 3:42, 2:73 & 3:27
The Motor is as follow's

Block #14010209...350...80-85
Heads #3970126....67-71...327/350
Crank's Turned
Rod's resized
0.60 over -- new Ring's & Bushings
Flat Top Piston's
Block's Decked
Screw in Stud's & Guide Plates
Edelbrock Performer intake
New Oil Pump & pan
Double Roller timeing Chain and new timeing cover
New Harmonic Balancer
Alum Full Rollor Rockers
327/350 Hp Cam -- Advanced 4`
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