Third Gen Fest '15 Discuss plans for the IL gathering set for May 22nd and 23rd in Crete, IL
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FINAL ROLLCALL!!!

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Old May 25, 2012 | 06:13 PM
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FINAL ROLLCALL!!!

after looking through the carvan threads and region threads are we gunna have a low car year? ive heard many mabyes or would like to but idk is everyone hideing? lol

So if your going tmw post up see if were gunna get a good show going
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Old May 25, 2012 | 07:17 PM
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Re: FINAL ROLLCALL!!!

I just finished up the car today.With new engine/tranny combo,et.I haven't had a chance to wring everything out. I guess tomorrow on the way to Thirdgen Fest will be as good a time as any. Wish me luck getting there.
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Old May 25, 2012 | 09:08 PM
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I "broked" my car. But I will be there in the Daily seeming as I've pre-paid.
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Old May 25, 2012 | 09:33 PM
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1meanz and I will be there
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Old May 25, 2012 | 10:39 PM
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ill be there, trashing some tires when i leave too, lol
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Old May 25, 2012 | 11:07 PM
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I'm in.
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Old May 26, 2012 | 12:47 AM
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Ill be there.Coming from Kouts Indiana
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Old May 26, 2012 | 12:49 AM
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See you guys there!
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Old May 26, 2012 | 02:10 AM
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I'm coming from Minnesota!
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Old May 26, 2012 | 02:26 AM
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I'm coming from Minnesota!
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Old May 26, 2012 | 04:16 PM
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Re: FINAL ROLLCALL!!!

Wheres the "No, my grandma is getting married the same day" option. Haha
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Old May 27, 2012 | 09:01 AM
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For those unable to make it: You missed a fun, laid back, genuinely good time. Tell Grandma' to shack up an extra week or two next year!
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Old May 27, 2012 | 08:28 PM
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i had a blast and even met watajob
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Old May 27, 2012 | 09:37 PM
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Re: FINAL ROLLCALL!!!

Originally Posted by xpndbl3
i had a blast and even met watajob
So did I.
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Old May 27, 2012 | 10:04 PM
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Re: FINAL ROLLCALL!!!

Originally Posted by watajob
For those unable to make it: You missed a fun, laid back, genuinely good time. Tell Grandma' to shack up an extra week or two next year!
I must ask where did you get the decal on the nose of your car I need a huge gold bird like that in my back window!
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Old May 27, 2012 | 10:22 PM
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Re: FINAL ROLLCALL!!!

It was a great show-glad i drove the 500 miles to get there-thanks to denny for putting on the show
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Old May 28, 2012 | 12:24 AM
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Re: FINAL ROLLCALL!!!

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I must ask where did you get the decal on the nose of your car I need a huge gold bird like that in my back window!
I've got to root through my box of receipts to find the place. In the meantime, PM me your email and I'll send you the highest res pic I have of it. It'll be in black but I'm thinking his site could probably convert it to any color you'd like, IIRC. The ones on my car and center caps are actually a dark grey metallic to match the stock lettering
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Old Mar 30, 2013 | 02:09 PM
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Re: FINAL ROLLCALL!!!

Originally Posted by 82z28 wrencher
after looking through the carvan threads and region threads are we gunna have a low car year? ive heard many mabyes or would like to but idk is everyone hideing? lol

So if your going tmw post up see if were gunna get a good show going
I just wanna say I love your quote
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Old May 12, 2013 | 08:17 PM
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Re: FINAL ROLLCALL!!!

I'm in! First time!
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Old May 14, 2013 | 12:11 AM
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Re: FINAL ROLLCALL!!!

I'm going. Need to put my tpi back in the car. Getting it done just waiting for parts to finish the job. Can't wait. I'm counting the days down.
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Old May 14, 2013 | 12:45 AM
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Re: FINAL ROLLCALL!!!

I last went in 2005, but life has slowed down so I can get away. Not enough time to get either 3rd Gen ready, so guess I'll be driving the Buick (But the XM radio is sure nice!)
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Old May 15, 2013 | 09:28 AM
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This thread is from the 2012 Fest.....
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Old May 15, 2013 | 11:06 PM
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Yes and I barely remember it...getting old sucks
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Old May 16, 2013 | 03:53 PM
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I will be there without the car since I already paid.
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Old May 17, 2013 | 06:10 AM
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Re: FINAL ROLLCALL!!!

My Formy is still not running correctly. It has a hard miss and cannot get the timing set. I have 1 more week to get her fixed, I will be there regardless.
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Old May 17, 2013 | 03:39 PM
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Re: FINAL ROLLCALL!!!

Just got my new 350 in last night, hopefully it will be in tip top shape by thirdgen fest
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Old May 17, 2013 | 04:46 PM
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Re: FINAL ROLLCALL!!!

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My Formy is still not running correctly. It has a hard miss and cannot get the timing set. I have 1 more week to get her fixed, I will be there regardless.
Did you disconnect the light brown single wire to set timing?
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Old May 17, 2013 | 10:27 PM
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Re: FINAL ROLLCALL!!!

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Did you disconnect the light brown single wire to set timing?

Yeah, but the hard miss is preventing me from setting the timing
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Old May 18, 2013 | 06:31 AM
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Then may need fresh plugs or tuneup. Check conditions of plugs, cap, rotor etc
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Old May 18, 2013 | 11:53 AM
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Re: FINAL ROLLCALL!!!

Originally Posted by xpndbl3
Then may need fresh plugs or tuneup. Check conditions of plugs, cap, rotor etc
I replaced the spark plugs. The wires, cap, and rotor are all good. The injectors are also good. It is just running choppy now, I replaced to ignition module and coil this morning.
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Old May 19, 2013 | 07:17 PM
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Re: FINAL ROLLCALL!!!

Well keep your fingers crossed, I towed the car over to a Carb & Ignition shop to get her going. The shop has been in business since '41, the founder is still working and his son runs the place.
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Old May 19, 2013 | 10:48 PM
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Re: FINAL ROLLCALL!!!

My Formulas new engine had a bad miss on the #8 cylinder and it was only a vaccum leak
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Old May 20, 2013 | 09:04 AM
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I assembled the motor this weekend. But then couldn't do jack squat Sunday because of family auto issues.

A motor not fully assembled is a sad motor.

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Old May 20, 2013 | 08:58 PM
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you should cheer the engine up by painting it pontiac blue!
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Old May 20, 2013 | 09:26 PM
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Re: FINAL ROLLCALL!!!

As long as my car survives midnight mayhem@cordova on Friday night ill be there Saturday,been tryin to make it for the past 12 or so years,hopefully I can make it this year!(fingers crossed)

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Old May 20, 2013 | 09:33 PM
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Why risk it ? Lol
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Old May 20, 2013 | 09:45 PM
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Re: FINAL ROLLCALL!!!

Originally Posted by Thirdgen89GTA
I assembled the motor this weekend. But then couldn't do jack squat Sunday because of family auto issues.

A motor not fully assembled is a sad motor.
Lookin good though!
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Old May 20, 2013 | 10:12 PM
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Lookin good though!
It has shiny ported ports.

You can see the welds where he had to add material.
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Old May 21, 2013 | 09:29 PM
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Re: FINAL ROLLCALL!!!

Well, depressing news. My Formy will not be making it's debut. The engine has no compression on cylinders 2 & 4........ so engine #3 is a bust. No more used engines for me.

Unfortunately I am going to have to sell a couple of my cars to pay for a crate engine. I am selling a '68 GTO and my newest acquisition, '86 Trans Am. I am coming to the 'Fest riding along with 1MeanZ and his crew. I will have some pictures with me and more info so if anyone is interested.
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Old May 21, 2013 | 09:47 PM
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Crate engines are typically overpriced for what you get, maybe have a shortblock built instead
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Old May 22, 2013 | 08:42 PM
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Re: FINAL ROLLCALL!!!

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Crate engines are typically overpriced for what you get, maybe have a shortblock built instead
Short blocks or complete custom engine assembly works for guys like you and I because we have tools, a place to work and the knowledge and experience to do the work. Our labor is free. It's also common for us to underestimate how difficult it is for someone to do what we do, when they have no experience with engines. For me it would be nothing to throw rings/rods/mains/valvejob at this engine and be back in action in a couple weeks. I have valve and seat grinding equipment for crying out loud, thats hardly true for regular car guys like Pete. I'm tempted to jump in this knee deep and build a motor, but with my current life situations and Chazman's T5 swap I just don't have the bandwidth or the space right now.

Pete is in a tight spot. This is his only car currently, and he is on bad used engine #3. He has limited tools, limited time, limited experience and no roof to work under or workbench to work on(unless you count the truck bed of an old F250). That all will change in the near future, but right now this is his reality. He needs something straight forward with a warranty to get the car going. I know you don't know the situation, but I can assure you, now is not the time to start piecing together a custom build of any kind.

Also, judging from my experience last time I spec'd out building an engine for a guy, a wise choice in crate engines can be a bargain. Especially in this case. We have no idea whats actually wrong in the motor he has. It won't even blow your thumb off the plug hole when you crank it over. The $600 he paid for the engine, plus new parts, machine work, assembly labor, etc can easily balloon over 1500-2k. At that point crate engines with warranties start looking pretty tempting.

I know you probably know all of this already and I don't mean to preach a sermon on here. I've been helping Pete as much as I possibly can and his situation breaks my heart. I'm giving him the wisest council I know to give, and as such I feel compelled to respond when well-meaning people jump in and tell him to do the opposite of what I'm telling him because they don't know the situation. With 3 bad attempts at used engines under his belt and no other car to drive, he needs 100% victory. A crate engine is the fastest and best way to get there.
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Old May 23, 2013 | 10:25 PM
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Re: FINAL ROLLCALL!!!

Ughhhh......blew my radiator tonight when I took it to the carwash. Isn't it fun when you should be spending the Friday before thirdgen fest detailing but instead you spend it switching out radiators. Just glad it didn't happen on the way there..still sucks

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Old May 23, 2013 | 10:52 PM
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I'm hoping I make it. Waiting for tranny parts. Hopefully be there Saturday
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Re: FINAL ROLLCALL!!!

Originally Posted by 1MeanZ
Short blocks or complete custom engine assembly works for guys like you and I because we have tools, a place to work and the knowledge and experience to do the work. Our labor is free. It's also common for us to underestimate how difficult it is for someone to do what we do, when they have no experience with engines. For me it would be nothing to throw rings/rods/mains/valvejob at this engine and be back in action in a couple weeks. I have valve and seat grinding equipment for crying out loud, thats hardly true for regular car guys like Pete. I'm tempted to jump in this knee deep and build a motor, but with my current life situations and Chazman's T5 swap I just don't have the bandwidth or the space right now.

Pete is in a tight spot. This is his only car currently, and he is on bad used engine #3. He has limited tools, limited time, limited experience and no roof to work under or workbench to work on(unless you count the truck bed of an old F250). That all will change in the near future, but right now this is his reality. He needs something straight forward with a warranty to get the car going. I know you don't know the situation, but I can assure you, now is not the time to start piecing together a custom build of any kind.

Also, judging from my experience last time I spec'd out building an engine for a guy, a wise choice in crate engines can be a bargain. Especially in this case. We have no idea whats actually wrong in the motor he has. It won't even blow your thumb off the plug hole when you crank it over. The $600 he paid for the engine, plus new parts, machine work, assembly labor, etc can easily balloon over 1500-2k. At that point crate engines with warranties start looking pretty tempting.

I know you probably know all of this already and I don't mean to preach a sermon on here. I've been helping Pete as much as I possibly can and his situation breaks my heart. I'm giving him the wisest council I know to give, and as such I feel compelled to respond when well-meaning people jump in and tell him to do the opposite of what I'm telling him because they don't know the situation. With 3 bad attempts at used engines under his belt and no other car to drive, he needs 100% victory. A crate engine is the fastest and best way to get there.
I totally understand what you're saying, been there and done that! I rebuilt and assembled an entire engine in a 5x5 shed once during the winter! Before I'd jump right in the crate engine bandwagon though, I'd pull a head off first. If there's a piston still in there, it's probably a bent valve or bad cam lobe.

The local JY here will run the engine on their home made stand for an extra 50 bucks before you buy it. You also get a 30 day warranty if it runs...if you don't ask them to run it, no warranty, no returns...
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Old May 24, 2013 | 02:36 PM
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Re: FINAL ROLLCALL!!!

Originally Posted by Confuzed1
I totally understand what you're saying, been there and done that! I rebuilt and assembled an entire engine in a 5x5 shed once during the winter! Before I'd jump right in the crate engine bandwagon though, I'd pull a head off first. If there's a piston still in there, it's probably a bent valve or bad cam lobe.

The local JY here will run the engine on their home made stand for an extra 50 bucks before you buy it. You also get a 30 day warranty if it runs...if you don't ask them to run it, no warranty, no returns...
The engine in question was disassembled by the previous owner because he thought it was making a bottom end noise. He found nothing wrong and put it all back together with the old rings and bearings. Putting a fresh top end on this engine could likely be a time bomb I'm afraid. Otherwise we'd be doing exactly as you recommend.

We have pulled the valve covers and re-set the lash on all the valves, but obviously we still have a problem. If there was an air compressor on-site I'd do a leakdown test and we'd know exactly where the blowby is going.
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Old May 27, 2013 | 01:36 PM
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Re: FINAL ROLLCALL!!!

Had a great time at Third Gen Fest, Thanks 1MeanZ for letting me ride along. I have been thinking on what we discussed about the other car and mine, I will stick it out with mine. Now if I could only get my other 2 sold we can get the setup we discussed. Thanks for all your help and encouragement.
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Old May 27, 2013 | 02:37 PM
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Good to meet you. Glad you still showed up! Hopefully you'll find a good running 350 for it and be back again for next years fest!
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Old May 27, 2013 | 03:58 PM
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Re: FINAL ROLLCALL!!!

Great to meet you also. Awesome 'Maro you have. 1MeanZ and I have a good plan so I will have the old bird there. Also, that you for your service Master Chief, I was an AT3 myself
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Old May 28, 2013 | 02:21 AM
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Re: FINAL ROLLCALL!!!

Yours was my favorite car. Damn nice ride
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