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Old Jul 26, 2003 | 09:15 PM
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85 TPI Cold start injector

Hey I was told to change my 85 TPI to density. since density does not uses the coold start injector what do you do with it
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Old Jul 26, 2003 | 09:28 PM
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Block it off (Accel makes a kit), or just unplug the
harness connector from the
9th injector.

The CSI is controlled by a relay mounted
in the front of the TPI intake, so the
ECM doesn't control it, but it will continue
to richen the start mix unless unhooked.

mike
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Old Jul 26, 2003 | 10:52 PM
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No what the advantage of getting rid of the cold start injector?
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Old Jul 27, 2003 | 10:18 AM
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Mike
would it be better to stay with the 85 setup or go density? i was also told by painless to use the 86 ECM with a new aftermarket harness that they sell
I was thinking of reworking the 85 harness and staying 85 or rework it so it will use a 86 ECM
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Old Jul 27, 2003 | 06:23 PM
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It's definately better to uprade the 85 ECM to either the 86-89 style or the speed density setup, depending on your preference and availablility.

I upgraded my 85 setup to an 86-89 MAF setup. Rather than paying through the nose for Painless' harness that isn't long enough to reach the stock computer location, I bought a used harness from an 87 IROC. It was a simple swap. I bought a small-cap distributer so I didn't have to modify the engine harness (I did have to modify the power harness). All I had to do was widen the hole in the kick panel, because the 86-89 harness is about 1/4" wider than the stock 85 harness.

I went with the MAF setup, primarily because my horsepower levels aren't extreme enough for MAF to be a drawback, and I wanted to learn how to burn chips for it before I moved on to speed density.

Anyway... on to the blockoff. If you're running speed density, then you need the blockoff. If you run MAF, you can use a $32b code and keep the cold start, or use a $6E code and eliminate cold start. Since I bought late-style SLP runners that didn't have the cold start provisions, I decided to run the $6E code and eliminate the cold start. Because I only needed to cap off the fuel rail instead of plug the injector hole, I was also to save a bunch of money by not using the accel kit... I just used a cap on the back of the rail.
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Old Jul 27, 2003 | 09:10 PM
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Doing the repin/splice swap from the 870 (1985) ECM to the 165 (86-89) ECM is a breeze. It requires just a few hours of work, a 165 ECM and proper Cal pak for the engine size you are using and the addition of 2 relays and a little wiring for each.
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