383 Stealth Ram Track Times
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383 Stealth Ram Track Times
12.031 @ 112.94 today with the new 383 shortblock. Previous best with the stock 350 shortblock was 12.963 @ 108.06. Both combos used the the same heads, cam & headers/exhaust. 3300lb car, full exhaust & drag radials. Shows what a little stroker torque will do for ya. More details can be found here: http://www.fbody.com/timeslips/member.cgi?id=343
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Is the new shortblock the only thing different between the two runs? That is a tremendous difference. What is your CR now?
Awesome times.
Awesome times.
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The CR on the 350 was 9.9, the 383 is 10.5, that & a MSD crank trigger setup are the only additions. Of course the ECU was retuned for the 383.
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very impressive times. what kind of pistons did you use and how well do you like the ZZ9 cam? I am building a HSR motor and I just picked up the AFR 195 heads but I am still looking for a good cam to run. I also need to get the engine rebuilt and I am having a hard time deciding weather or not I should build a forged 355 or a budget 383 setup
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Not sure who you are asking but, I am running a Comp XR276HR cam with the HSR. I would think a forged 355 would cost about the same as a forged 383. The Scat 4340 cranks are all the same price 3.48" stroke to 3.875" stroke. I have Keith Black KB122 flat top hypereutectic pistons.
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Actually a little slow. They started something new, you have to add .500 sec to the R/T. so it's actually .748 R/T
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You get a negative number. Had a lot of us confused at first
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Damn, almost there Rick. Almost time for a roll bar, if you don't have one that is. How many runs, just that one? Congrats on the new success.
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I only got 2 runs in yesterday. They started late cause the track was wet from Friday nights rain. My first run was at 12:30 the second at 2:00. I had to be home by 3:30, so no third run. The first run sucked, no traction. It spun the whole 60', then hooked for a 13.538 @ 110.88. The roll bar is this winter's project.
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On the first run, I could not get it to do the burnout long enough to fully heat the DR's. It grabbed after few seconds & leaped forward to the starting line. The second run I smoked 'em for a good 5 seconds, then it hooked. The mph is close on both runs, so it was the driving that made the difference.
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Rick, I was asking you. I mistankingly looked back though the post and thought I was reading your sig. Thats why I thought you had the ZZ9 cam. Do you sugest the cam you have for my combo as well. Like I said, I havent decided which way I wanna go with my engine. It is going to the machine shop shortly to have it taken apart. I thunk it has a broken piston ring. Hile its apart I would like to have it punched out a bit and maybe even have it set up for a stroker setup. Im just worried that the cost will not be worth it to have a 383 made out of it. Whats better, forged pistons and a cast crank or forged crank and hypertectic pistons. I do plan to spray this engine with at least a 150hp shot of the laughing gas.
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I was told by the shop that did mine, hyper pistons will take a 150 shot but not much more reliably. He also was not in favor of cast cranks for more than 450 hp. I see guys out there all the time spraying stock setups & getting away with it. I think they are livin' on borrowed time. Any kind of serious nitrous motor should be all forged, IMHO.
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I got the shortblock as complete assembled package for $2500 plus shipping. 4 bolt roller block, Scat 4340 crank, Eagle I beam 6" rods, KB hyper pistons, Speed Pro rings. www.gustafengines.com
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rick i added your et and mph to the HSR CARS section for you over at www.stealthram.com
direct link to page
http://stealthram.com/hsrcars.html
now just need some dyno numbers.
direct link to page
http://stealthram.com/hsrcars.html
now just need some dyno numbers.
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I needed an adjustable length distributor & read in the Holley 950 manual that mag trigger distributors cause noise problems that interfere with ECU. So I went with crank trigger & a dummy crab type distributor. Timing is supposed to be more accurate. I noticed the car starts up much better. I guess anything new is an improvement over a 15 year old stock distributor.
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Great times, Rick. What ecm are you running? I like your bottem end, did your use the ESP eagle crank? I'm running one with the h-beams and forged wisecos.
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Holley C950 ECU, Scat 4340 crank, Eagle I-beam rods, KB hyper flatops. The C950 ECU has a direct feed for the crank trigger, hence no ignition module. The ECU & the MSD 6 completely control the spark.
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Nice times man! I'm still trying to decide on whether or not to build a nice 383 HSR or go the LS1 route.....
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Re: 383 Stealth Ram Track Times
nice hopefully im running the same or close
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