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Same TPI on 305 as on 350 ?

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Old Jan 28, 2004 | 08:42 PM
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Car: 91 Black Formula KR
Engine: 305 TPI R69/G92
Transmission: Astro A5-Pro 5.0-McCleod
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Same TPI on 305 as on 350 ?

I have a 91 Firebird TPI 305... Motor is still running good, but has quite a few miles on it... I want to do some appearance / performance upgrades to the TPI setup / runners / etc... Can I use the same setup later when I decide to get a new motor, possiblly a 350? (I know new injectors will be required, etc...)
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Old Jan 29, 2004 | 06:21 AM
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yep. The TPI's are the same.
The injectors and knock sensor are different. You should change the programming in the ECM as well though it will run on 305 programming.
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Old Jan 30, 2004 | 03:38 PM
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Car: '86 Camaro, '02 WRX, '87 K5, '67
Engine: 350 TPI, 2.0turbo, 383 in the works, 289-4BBL, 232, A-head 4-cylinder
Transmission: T56, 5-speed, 700R4, C4, T176, semi-auto 2-speed
Axle/Gears: 3.73, 3.90, 4.88, 3.55, 3.54, 7.00
The ESTC (electronic spark timing control) module is different too, to go along with the knock sensor, but otherwise, excluding the parts previously mentioned, it's all the same.
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Old Jan 31, 2004 | 10:49 AM
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Are you sure about that? I've never heard or read this before ...

I knew the knock sensor is different such that it will detech the harmonics of the large bore 350 compared to the 305. The sensor itself still outputs the same signal, hence I would not think the eletronic controls need to be any different. Perhaps the timing advance would be different, but that is in the PROM.

I am curious to hear more about why the ESC would be different.

Mark.

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The ESTC (electronic spark timing control) module is different too, to go along with the knock sensor, but otherwise, excluding the parts previously mentioned, it's all the same.
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Old Jan 31, 2004 | 12:36 PM
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I'm not so sure that the module is different. I replaced my sensor when I swapped engines and all's well.
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Old Feb 2, 2004 | 09:14 AM
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Car: '86 Camaro, '02 WRX, '87 K5, '67
Engine: 350 TPI, 2.0turbo, 383 in the works, 289-4BBL, 232, A-head 4-cylinder
Transmission: T56, 5-speed, 700R4, C4, T176, semi-auto 2-speed
Axle/Gears: 3.73, 3.90, 4.88, 3.55, 3.54, 7.00
When I did the swap on my Blazer from the 305 to the 350 I researched every sensor to make sure that the engine would run perfectly as soon as I fired it up. I found that the ESTC modules have different part numbers for 305 and 350 engines. I never even tried to run it with the 305 ESTC, but it runs great with the 350 ESTC. They may not be any different, but if they aren't why do they carry a different PN? It wasn't a chance I was willing to take, without having a very knowledgeable person tell me that they were the same, and I couldn't find anyonw who would do that at the time.
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