cylinder head delima!!!help please
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cylinder head delima!!!help please
Yesterday i pulled my engine out of my IROC. and today I took it apart. Well the guy I bought it from told me that the guy he bought the car from, told him a 350 had been swapped in place of the orginal 305. Well, it turns out the orginal engine was just rebuilt.
I pulled the heads of my engine and looked at the pistons and found there was a 3.75" bore instead of a 4.00". so here is my problem.
I am building a 76 350, that is bored .030 over. and I was going to use my (supposed) L98 heads with the block. Well, i found out I don't have 350 heads, I have 305. I know that the valves are 1.84/1.5, and the combustion chamber is 58cc. Now I know that I would already be running 9.5-9.7:1 compressoin with Speed Pro forged pistons. and now that I have 58 ccs instead of 64, I'm sure I will be in the 10:1 range. Well is there away I can still use these heads and enlarge the combustion chambers so i don't run that much compressoin. I don't know for sure but if I ran 10:1 I prolly wouldn't be able to use pump gas. I don't have the money to get new heads. So I just want to see what you guys would reccomend for me to do. Thanks!!!
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I pulled the heads of my engine and looked at the pistons and found there was a 3.75" bore instead of a 4.00". so here is my problem.
I am building a 76 350, that is bored .030 over. and I was going to use my (supposed) L98 heads with the block. Well, i found out I don't have 350 heads, I have 305. I know that the valves are 1.84/1.5, and the combustion chamber is 58cc. Now I know that I would already be running 9.5-9.7:1 compressoin with Speed Pro forged pistons. and now that I have 58 ccs instead of 64, I'm sure I will be in the 10:1 range. Well is there away I can still use these heads and enlarge the combustion chambers so i don't run that much compressoin. I don't know for sure but if I ran 10:1 I prolly wouldn't be able to use pump gas. I don't have the money to get new heads. So I just want to see what you guys would reccomend for me to do. Thanks!!!
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What castings are your 305 heads? I am planning a 350 soon, and am probably gonna use my 305 heads. From what I understand 10:1 is getting on the high side for Iron heads and Regular Gas. But I also read that if you quench is in the correct range .030"-.040" then you should have little problem with detonation and higher compression. I know you can open the chambers up a bit, just make sure none of it is opened up farther than the bore. I believe that 2-3 cc's can be cut out easily.
There is a nice porting and polishing post here, it is about the 416 heads, but the heads you probably have are 081's which are very simular.
There is a nice porting and polishing post here, it is about the 416 heads, but the heads you probably have are 081's which are very simular.
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14102187 is the casting. I'm sure they could handle the 10:1. Its just a matter of dieseling and pinging from pump gas.....I guess I don't really know yet
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305 Heads
I have used 305 heads on a 350 for higher compression and great low end torque BUT my engine builder strongly recommended that I perform some work on the heads first which I did. Remove all sharp edges and polish the combustion chamber to monimize the chance of detonation. I ended up with 10 to 1 compression, pump gas and 36 degrees of timing with no detonation. Lucky or good, who knows, but it worked that time.
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Originally posted by snowman89
14102187 is the casting. I'm sure they could handle the 10:1. Its just a matter of dieseling and pinging from pump gas.....I guess I don't really know yet
14102187 is the casting. I'm sure they could handle the 10:1. Its just a matter of dieseling and pinging from pump gas.....I guess I don't really know yet
No money for heads?
I'd take a die grinder and unshroud the combustion chambers a bit...60-62 cc should not be difficult. If no die grinder, and no money...and buy high octane gas.
Or go find some 350 heads at a junkyard.
I'd take a die grinder and unshroud the combustion chambers a bit...60-62 cc should not be difficult. If no die grinder, and no money...and buy high octane gas.
Or go find some 350 heads at a junkyard.
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well I don't have alot of money I should say. I know off thirdgen resource i could pick up a set of heads for 100 bucks.....so maybe I will do that
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well, here is what I ran into.....I have had a set of 14102193 heads sitting around that I had ported and polished for my truck that I had.....well i was desperate so I decided to go with the heads, and yeah they worked...so I guess I will see how they turn out.
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