ok i am a newbie to map what is the difference between my 89 maf 350 tpi and a 91 map (speed density) if tuned properly will there be any hp changes....will the engine run any better...i want a break down of everything... and i will be switching the car to a t-56 at the same time
please no use search quotes cause i have been for 3hrs
please no use search quotes cause i have been for 3hrs

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uhh ohhhh Not this topic again. This is like asking which came first the chiken or the egg. Go to DIY PROM and search because you won't get very far on this topic with out a argument. I know you didn't want to hear This But use Search more,
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Yeah, search again, but limit it to the DIY Prom board.
We only say this because flame wars go started and there are many many posts about this.
We only say this because flame wars go started and there are many many posts about this.
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When you are doing you searches try . . . "Why MAF is Better than MAP" or "Why does SD suck so much?"
Seriously though check out the majority of the posts made by Ski_Dwn_It - he had a MAF 406 SBC running 10s.
Good luck with your research!
Seriously though check out the majority of the posts made by Ski_Dwn_It - he had a MAF 406 SBC running 10s.
Good luck with your research!
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When you are doing you searches try . . . "Why MAF is Better than MAP" or "Why does SD suck so much?"
Seriously though check out the majority of the posts made by Ski_Dwn_It - he had a MAF 406 SBC running 10s.
Good luck with your research!
Originally posted by Ragtop89
When you are doing you searches try . . . "Why MAF is Better than MAP" or "Why does SD suck so much?"
Seriously though check out the majority of the posts made by Ski_Dwn_It - he had a MAF 406 SBC running 10s.
Good luck with your research!
jealous steve?
tell ya what... since you're a friend, i'll sell you my 91 SD harness and ECM for $400... of course if you sell your MAF harness, you'll get less, but hey, its a nice deal IMO.

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SHOOSH!
My MAF works just FINE!
Someday I'll have the money to finish my 400 and then you'll see some MAF POWAH!!
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My MAF works just FINE!
Someday I'll have the money to finish my 400 and then you'll see some MAF POWAH!!
:hail:
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SHOOSH!
My MAF works just FINE!
Someday I'll have the money to finish my 400 and then you'll see some MAF POWAH!!
:hail:
ok, until then, can i get you to stand behind my car at the dragstrip? i need to see how tweeked shes getting during the launch... you know.. because its running... and all.. Originally posted by Ragtop89
SHOOSH!
My MAF works just FINE!
Someday I'll have the money to finish my 400 and then you'll see some MAF POWAH!!
:hail:

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My car runs!
And, yeah, I'll stand and watch the rear of your car . . . it's the only way I'll ever see the back-end of that thing at the strip!
BOOYAH!!
And, yeah, I'll stand and watch the rear of your car . . . it's the only way I'll ever see the back-end of that thing at the strip!
BOOYAH!!

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My car runs!
And, yeah, I'll stand and watch the rear of your car . . . it's the only way I'll ever see the back-end of that thing at the strip!
BOOYAH!!
pushing it around doesnt count.Originally posted by Ragtop89
My car runs!
And, yeah, I'll stand and watch the rear of your car . . . it's the only way I'll ever see the back-end of that thing at the strip!
BOOYAH!!
you dont have the new motor together yet and i know it.
besides, you look at my rear all the time.. (and that disturbs me)
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True, the 400 isn't done but the 355 is still in there and it still runs great.
Took a co-worker out for a ride in the MAF IROC and had him giggling like an idiot at the top of 4th and screaming half-way thru 5th.
MAF is a wonderful thing.
As long as you can control spark and fuel nothing is impossible.
Took a co-worker out for a ride in the MAF IROC and had him giggling like an idiot at the top of 4th and screaming half-way thru 5th.
MAF is a wonderful thing.
As long as you can control spark and fuel nothing is impossible.
Chicken or the egg... 
Yea, thats about it. SD is going to be easier to tune, although you can tune the MAF too you just have to think more
I doubt you are going to see any significant power change between the 2 unless the MAF really is restricting your intake side. I think the runners and base on a TPI take care of restriction better than a MAF though.

Yea, thats about it. SD is going to be easier to tune, although you can tune the MAF too you just have to think more
I doubt you are going to see any significant power change between the 2 unless the MAF really is restricting your intake side. I think the runners and base on a TPI take care of restriction better than a MAF though.Banned
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Chicken or the egg...
Yea, thats about it. SD is going to be easier to tune, although you can tune the MAF too you just have to think more
I doubt you are going to see any significant power change between the 2 unless the MAF really is restricting your intake side. I think the runners and base on a TPI take care of restriction better than a MAF though.
I totally agree.Originally posted by madmax
Chicken or the egg...

Yea, thats about it. SD is going to be easier to tune, although you can tune the MAF too you just have to think more
I doubt you are going to see any significant power change between the 2 unless the MAF really is restricting your intake side. I think the runners and base on a TPI take care of restriction better than a MAF though. They just don't flow enough to create the power the majority of us are looking for.
So it's time to port the stocker. . . or buy a new intake tract system (SR, MR, HSR,) and port it.
By the time your MAF becomes a flow restriction you should be making MAD HP!
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By the time your MAF becomes a flow restriction you should be making MAD HP!
Originally posted by Ragtop89
By the time your MAF becomes a flow restriction you should be making MAD HP!
ah HA! so you admit its a restriction!
then again, you arnt making MAD HP, so you'll never have to worry about it....
btw, my happy HP is going to whoop your mildly upset HPs ***! w00t!
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of course you could go to the almighty carb and a vortech SC oh yeah and the only good fuel injection I've seen is on a 69 Camaro owned by a cop named Mel down here in Colorado. W00t W00t
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of course you could go to the almighty carb and a vortech SC oh yeah and the only good fuel injection I've seen is on a 69 Camaro owned by a cop named Mel down here in Colorado. W00t W00t
Oh yeah, instead of a SD vs MAF debate, let's turn it into a carb vs EFI debate. :POriginally posted by Metal383
of course you could go to the almighty carb and a vortech SC oh yeah and the only good fuel injection I've seen is on a 69 Camaro owned by a cop named Mel down here in Colorado. W00t W00t
12.5, SD, *and* 21.5 MPG. kthx
SD Vs MAF Vs Carb VS aftermarket ECMS...... ITS A FREE FOR ALL! LETS RUMBLE!
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12.5, SD, *and* 21.5 MPG. kthx
11.7, carb, *and* 5MPG. kthx Originally posted by Synapsis
12.5, SD, *and* 21.5 MPG. kthx
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can't forget Vs.supercharger Vs. turbo Vs. nitrous Vs. Chevy Vs. Dodge Vs. Ford Vs. V8 Vs. 4 cylinder Vs. 6 cylinder Vs. torque Vs. horsepower and so on.Originally posted by MrDude_1
SD Vs MAF Vs Carb VS aftermarket ECMS...... ITS A FREE FOR ALL! LETS RUMBLE!
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can't forget Vs.supercharger Vs. turbo Vs. nitrous Vs. Chevy Vs. Dodge Vs. Ford Vs. V8 Vs. 4 cylinder Vs. 6 cylinder Vs. torque Vs. horsepower and so on.
Originally posted by Metal383
can't forget Vs.supercharger Vs. turbo Vs. nitrous Vs. Chevy Vs. Dodge Vs. Ford Vs. V8 Vs. 4 cylinder Vs. 6 cylinder Vs. torque Vs. horsepower and so on.
pffft.
there isnt even a challange there. everyone knows that the horsepower 4 cylinder Dodge/Ford Hybrid car is better.
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pffft.
there isnt even a challange there. everyone knows that the horsepower 4 cylinder Dodge/Ford Hybrid car is better.
with or with out turbo/supercharger/nitrous/chrome valve cover?Originally posted by MrDude_1
pffft.
there isnt even a challange there. everyone knows that the horsepower 4 cylinder Dodge/Ford Hybrid car is better.
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Yeah it wasn't. :P I seem to recall seeing something about a Chevelle running 10's @ ~5 mpg.Originally posted by Metal383
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Yeah it wasn't. :P I seem to recall seeing something about a Chevelle running 10's @ ~5 mpg.
hey me too but I decided that I didn't quite believe the time ( I believe the mileage) since its still isn't done and didn't want to get called out over something I don't quite know yet.Originally posted by Synapsis
Yeah it wasn't. :P I seem to recall seeing something about a Chevelle running 10's @ ~5 mpg.
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with or with out turbo/supercharger/nitrous/chrome valve cover?
the BRIGHT RED VALVECOVER!Originally posted by Metal383
with or with out turbo/supercharger/nitrous/chrome valve cover?
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the BRIGHT RED VALVECOVER!
Type R! the red adds horsepowerOriginally posted by MrDude_1
the BRIGHT RED VALVECOVER!

