summit tpi cam
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summit tpi cam
has anyone on here run a summit tpi cam on the 86 iroc?? if so dose the car still run out of nut at like 3900 rpm? abd if not what are some of the none roller cams you are running in your tpi's? i have high stall convert. and will be doing gears down road
please get back to me fast, i have moeny that needs to be burnt
please get back to me fast, i have moeny that needs to be burnt
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From: Uppsala Sweden
Car: 1989 Corvette
Engine: 350 Tpi
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I do , i bought a summit hydraulic flat tappet cam for a 1986 305 tpi engine. I started the new engine a couple of weeks ago but i havent tried it more than that due to the snow.
Heres a link for more info https://www.thirdgen.org/techbb2/sho...hreadid=326557
Heres a link for more info https://www.thirdgen.org/techbb2/sho...hreadid=326557
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lol i just looked at your post like 20 min ago...the motor looks killer, how dose it idle and sound? dose it want to rev, and rev faster in park?
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Car: 1989 Corvette
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The idle is good and its sounds even better . Yes it wants to rev very much so at thid point im very pleased and i cant wait to get it on the road for more testing.
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Car: 89 IROC
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Summit
I run the Summit 214/224 flat tappet cam in mine. It pulls up to and over the 5K range. I am far more satisfied with it than I ever thought I would be.
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Car: '92 RS
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Ive been looking at this cam for my '86 also. Its a good deal for everything you get. Anybody have a sound clip for theirs ??
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thanks fastmax for the reply, but i just orderd the summit cam kit, duble roller chain, valve seals, and cam kit install gasket kit, it came to 228 (or around there)
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Car: 94 Z28
Engine: LT1 w/ headers, catback, CAI, tune
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Axle/Gears: 3.23s
Yeah I ran that cam in my 86 IROC as well. It idles pretty aggressively IMO, sounds great (I had it set to idle around 700ish rpm in park I believe, around 650ish in gear). Revs well past anything it would do with the peanut cam, it was definitely a GREAT mod to do to a peanut cammed car.
I had that cam with headers/3inch cat/flowmaster catback, ported plenum, shimmed FPR (FP bump about 5 psi), and ADS chip (came with car, only makes any tune changes at WOT I believe) and a rebuilt tranny w/ a 2000ish rpm stall and 3.42s out back. Ran great IMO for a 305.
It was making around 250ish hp if I had to take a guess based on how it ran against other cars.... Took out quite a few stockish 5.0 and early 4.6l Stangs. I passed it down to my younger brother about 2 years ago. About a month ago I purchased a bone dead stock 94 Z28 with the LT1, an A4 w/ 3.23s. We ran em to see how the old IROC would stack up, it lost by about 3 carlengths or so up to about 90mph to the LT1. Not bad but I was frankly hoping it would have been closer for the 305...
I had that cam with headers/3inch cat/flowmaster catback, ported plenum, shimmed FPR (FP bump about 5 psi), and ADS chip (came with car, only makes any tune changes at WOT I believe) and a rebuilt tranny w/ a 2000ish rpm stall and 3.42s out back. Ran great IMO for a 305.
It was making around 250ish hp if I had to take a guess based on how it ran against other cars.... Took out quite a few stockish 5.0 and early 4.6l Stangs. I passed it down to my younger brother about 2 years ago. About a month ago I purchased a bone dead stock 94 Z28 with the LT1, an A4 w/ 3.23s. We ran em to see how the old IROC would stack up, it lost by about 3 carlengths or so up to about 90mph to the LT1. Not bad but I was frankly hoping it would have been closer for the 305...
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No I sure didn't. I've been trying to talk my brother into coming with me when I get around to running my LT1 to get some idea of the times but no-go so far.
I'll be betting on some mid 14s for the IROC if and when it gets run but who knows... Oh and I think it has a few ponies tied up in the stock TPI runners and base.
I'll be betting on some mid 14s for the IROC if and when it gets run but who knows... Oh and I think it has a few ponies tied up in the stock TPI runners and base.
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From: Uppsala Sweden
Car: 1989 Corvette
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Axle/Gears: Dana 44 3,33
If you look at my tread https://www.thirdgen.org/techbb2/sho...hreadid=326557
Theres a movie with sound you can download .
Theres a movie with sound you can download .
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Car: 94 Z28
Engine: LT1 w/ headers, catback, CAI, tune
Transmission: 4L60E
Axle/Gears: 3.23s
Here is an old mp3 I made of my 86 IROC, please note that is a crappy cheap recorder that I used. You can get a good idea of the idle sound, but when it revs a little quickly (only to like 3k rpm anyway, barely a rev), it didn't capture the sound well at all. Made it sound all hollow or something w/ the flowmaster, it has a nice deep tone in reality. It somehow seemed to barely record the deep part of the sound, kinda in the background or something. It's a real short clip but at least you can get a quick idea of the idle...
Right click and save it, hopefully bandwidth won't die. http://bellsouthpwp.net/j/s/jstriet/IROCexhaust1.mp3
Here is the whole clip that is cut from, just more of the same lame short throttle blips, only a couple more seconds of idling in there. But hey, it's better than nothing...:
http://bellsouthpwp.net/j/s/jstriet/IROCexhaust.mp3
Right click and save it, hopefully bandwidth won't die. http://bellsouthpwp.net/j/s/jstriet/IROCexhaust1.mp3
Here is the whole clip that is cut from, just more of the same lame short throttle blips, only a couple more seconds of idling in there. But hey, it's better than nothing...:
http://bellsouthpwp.net/j/s/jstriet/IROCexhaust.mp3
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Scania, I could get yours to work., even went to the thread and to your page and it wouldnt download. Started out at 6hrs and I have Cable internet. Still would like to hear yours.
Ray, man that thing suprised me when I heard it. I am definatly getting that cam now. You dont by chance still have that ADS chip do you?
Ray, man that thing suprised me when I heard it. I am definatly getting that cam now. You dont by chance still have that ADS chip do you?
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Yeah, the car is still running the ADS chip, I never got into the chip burning stuff and my brother has done jack w/ the car so it's as I left it.
I imagine with a custom chip you could tune in a little smoother idle, part of it's aggressive sound is no doubt due to the stock tuning at idle (ADS chip only made changes at WOT I think, not sure). It sounds pretty freakin mean IMO, more bark than it has bite being a 305 though unfortunately, lol.
The cam isn't that much bigger than some of the factory 5spd cams, but I guess it's 112 degree LSA makes it more aggressive sounding at idle. I think all the factory cams had 114 or higher.
I'd be interested to hear from Scania or someone else with this cam to see if their's is as aggressive sounding or if mine was a freak or something.
I imagine with a custom chip you could tune in a little smoother idle, part of it's aggressive sound is no doubt due to the stock tuning at idle (ADS chip only made changes at WOT I think, not sure). It sounds pretty freakin mean IMO, more bark than it has bite being a 305 though unfortunately, lol.
The cam isn't that much bigger than some of the factory 5spd cams, but I guess it's 112 degree LSA makes it more aggressive sounding at idle. I think all the factory cams had 114 or higher.
I'd be interested to hear from Scania or someone else with this cam to see if their's is as aggressive sounding or if mine was a freak or something.
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Originally posted by Ray87Z
Yeah, the car is still running the ADS chip, I never got into the chip burning stuff and my brother has done jack w/ the car so it's as I left it.
I imagine with a custom chip you could tune in a little smoother idle, part of it's aggressive sound is no doubt due to the stock tuning at idle (ADS chip only made changes at WOT I think, not sure). It sounds pretty freakin mean IMO, more bark than it has bite being a 305 though unfortunately, lol.
The cam isn't that much bigger than some of the factory 5spd cams, but I guess it's 112 degree LSA makes it more aggressive sounding at idle. I think all the factory cams had 114 or higher.
I'd be interested to hear from Scania or someone else with this cam to see if their's is as aggressive sounding or if mine was a freak or something.
Yeah, the car is still running the ADS chip, I never got into the chip burning stuff and my brother has done jack w/ the car so it's as I left it.
I imagine with a custom chip you could tune in a little smoother idle, part of it's aggressive sound is no doubt due to the stock tuning at idle (ADS chip only made changes at WOT I think, not sure). It sounds pretty freakin mean IMO, more bark than it has bite being a 305 though unfortunately, lol.
The cam isn't that much bigger than some of the factory 5spd cams, but I guess it's 112 degree LSA makes it more aggressive sounding at idle. I think all the factory cams had 114 or higher.
I'd be interested to hear from Scania or someone else with this cam to see if their's is as aggressive sounding or if mine was a freak or something.
I also have a custom made chip, im lucky to have a friend whos good at this.
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Originally posted by Ray87Z
Here is an old mp3 I made of my 86 IROC, please note that is a crappy cheap recorder that I used. You can get a good idea of the idle sound, but when it revs a little quickly (only to like 3k rpm anyway, barely a rev), it didn't capture the sound well at all. Made it sound all hollow or something w/ the flowmaster, it has a nice deep tone in reality. It somehow seemed to barely record the deep part of the sound, kinda in the background or something. It's a real short clip but at least you can get a quick idea of the idle...
Right click and save it, hopefully bandwidth won't die. http://bellsouthpwp.net/j/s/jstriet/IROCexhaust1.mp3
Here is the whole clip that is cut from, just more of the same lame short throttle blips, only a couple more seconds of idling in there. But hey, it's better than nothing...:
http://bellsouthpwp.net/j/s/jstriet/IROCexhaust.mp3
Here is an old mp3 I made of my 86 IROC, please note that is a crappy cheap recorder that I used. You can get a good idea of the idle sound, but when it revs a little quickly (only to like 3k rpm anyway, barely a rev), it didn't capture the sound well at all. Made it sound all hollow or something w/ the flowmaster, it has a nice deep tone in reality. It somehow seemed to barely record the deep part of the sound, kinda in the background or something. It's a real short clip but at least you can get a quick idea of the idle...
Right click and save it, hopefully bandwidth won't die. http://bellsouthpwp.net/j/s/jstriet/IROCexhaust1.mp3
Here is the whole clip that is cut from, just more of the same lame short throttle blips, only a couple more seconds of idling in there. But hey, it's better than nothing...:
http://bellsouthpwp.net/j/s/jstriet/IROCexhaust.mp3
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