i got them at my local NTB... national tire and battery.
http://www.ntb.com/index.do
i bought the car with these tires on it, and when they wore out, i shopped around to see if could find them and NTB had it. good price too. 100-104 a piece

 

Obviously you've never launched a FWD car, nor ever thought about what happens to the weight when you start going. FWD is a horrible setup for drag racing and the weight over the front wheels does not come close to overcoming the disadvantage FWD has.

On any car, when you start to go, the weight transfers to the rear, the faster you accelerate, the more the weight transfers to the rear. So obviously, in drag racing you'll have a lot of weight transfer sinc eyou are accelerating quickly. You know on a RWD car how it will lift the front tires, well the weight transfers exactly the same on a FWD car except the front tires are the ones putting the power to the ground, so there is little traction to be had. RWD is WAYYYYY easier to launch because they get significantly better traction. For instance, for my dad to be able to pull off mid 1.7 60's in his GTP he had to do some suspension mods to the rear to make it stiffer so the weight couldn't transfer as much, and he runs 10.5" slicks. The car still spins the slicks easily instead of the slicks sticking like they would in a RWD car. He runs 11.9's with mid 1.7 60's because thats just all the harder it can launch. If you ran 11.9's in an f-body with 10.5" slicks I would have to bet you could launch a lot better than 1.7 60's.

Lets say you have yourself a 9 second f-body...what kind of 60's would you be pulling with it? Like 1.3's or so? (I honestly don't know, thats my guess) The 9 second GP's are pulling low 1.6's/high 1.5 60's and this is using wheelie bars to push the front wheels down, FWD just is not good for straight line at all.

Like I said, the best I can squeeze out of my GP after racing it for ~3 years is a 1.9 60' on a really sticky track. I jumped in my buddies 5 speed Mustang on street tires and was cutting 1.9's by the 3rd pass....

Shawn

 

- off topic but - also Tire Kingdom/Big 10 Tire can get the Fuldas. Great tires, but currently more difficult to get. Fulda had 3 plants, they moved all to one new one, and the shipping/production is all screwed...

 

I understand the physics behind what you are saying, but an 11 second car and a 14 second car are entirely diferent animals. All I know is my dads 04' GP is way easier to lauch than my Z28. Maybe its the 300 ft/lbs in the low rpms or maybe its the centerforce clutch that doesnt like to slip. It probably has to do more with my lack of experience. All I was saying was if you droped somebody off the street onto a stock GP and a stock LB9 T5, i would venture to bet that the GP would turn better 60' times.
I supose in your case I may have been wrong.

 

I checked those places and none of those are in WI. I googled them and I couldnt find much of anything in english.

 

Your dads '04 GP has drive by wire...thats why it seems easy to launch. The stock LB9 T5 vs. a stock GP would not suprise me if the GP turned better 60's because of all the traction control aids, and not to mention that the GP has more power. (if you get the right model...new GXP's are at 303hp/323ft.lbs)

Shawn

 

shawn i see you are located in lima ohio too, you goto northwestern? i goto school there and figured that'd be the only reason why you were there. i had a skyblue 89 ws6 down there in the warm months now i have the red turbo saturn.

let me know

Russ

 

Of course I go to Northwestern. Otherwise there is no way I'd be in this ****ty *** town. Can't say that I've seen either of your cars but I'm not sure.

Shawn

 

x2 i can't stand it down there. i am actually transfering to a school here in Mich after this session. you live in the dorms or what?funny how i've seen you on the tgp fourms but never noticed until on here you went to uno. i am swapping a tgp motor into my cavalier soon here also

hit me up on aim or something

 

Actually there is 10 ponies and 35 lb-ft that separate the L98 from the manual LB9, but I agree that a thirdgen doesn't need any cowl hood to "look fast".

You can hit 13.7s without aftermarket heads and cam, but plan on some chip tuning along with all that's already been suggested. I think with a T-5, the L98 cam that comes with it, and some sticky tires, you can get there in a 305 TPI f-body without too much difficulty, really. Most people just give up on the 305, honestly. There are enough guys on here to hit mid to high 14s with bolt on auto LB9s that have a worse cam that I believe it's not at all an improbable proposition with a factory T-5 TPI car.

 

I lived in the dorms until about 3-4 months ago. Now I live in a house that might as well be on campus. Its in the Sherwood subdivision, so it takes me 5 minutes to walk to class.

What school in MI are you transferring to?

Shawn

 

dang lucky you i live out in gomer now which is like 15mins away.

i am transfering to macoumb, 2 of my friends go there ones in a gm program already is in a dealership threw the school and pays alot less then us,i think we pay what almost 1500 a session he pays that for like 3 classes. i am going to check it out here when i move back. definitly sounds just like uno but with out th high performance area

 

You guys are lucky! Im goin to UTI in Chicago and tuiton for me is 28k. I gotta buddy that goes to Northwestern donno if you know him or not....his names john terry.....hes from Michigan too.

 

I got my 86 Iroc (yeah the sweet one with 190 hp) down to 14.66 with street tires and full street weight. zero engine mods no porting. Shorty Headers, 3inch Y with 3inch flowmaster catback. I bout a chip as well. Descreened MAF and K&Ns. Through down a 1.98 60' and trapped at 92 mph.

 

haha good luck at UTI buddy seriously, my friend from wisconsin is going there he will have his turbocharged 3400 done in just a month so i am sure he'll take that.

 

Nice. yeah UTI is pretty cool....Ive been here since OCT... so im gettin to the good stuff. Pretty much it sucks at first cuz you gotta learn all the basic crap...(brakes and all that garbage)

 

thats usually how it is i had a/c and electrical before finally getting into manuals.

your from metamora? wow i am from oxford/lake Orion lol ur 5mins away pretty much.thats definitly cool

 

Nice! I prolly wont be around much this summer due to school but Woodward for sure.....you ever get on mifbody.com? its pretty much just a bunch of guys and girls that just cruise around ....the site started last year so its fairly easy to get to know people from around the area

 

haven't been there i'll have to check it out for sure. woodward is a must took my turbosaturn there last year

 

- guys try PM'ing - this is supposed to be about building power w/ a 305...

 

All this guy needs to do is a search.

 

That goes w/o saying for every thread on this board.Might be the reason my post count is low as compared to my join date.

 

True but ive seen so many of these threads. This must have been answered many times. All of these what do i need to run this,what will i run, threads are everywhere.

 

hi guys,check this: [url]http://gmhightechperformance.com/tech/0403htp_chip/

 

Blue Thunder back from the dead.

 

I pay 1175 a session. New enrollment is now 1200 a session but thats not really much difference. I could've gone a lot of other places but nobody had the hipo program that UNO had, and UNO was closest to home. I hear UTI and Wyotech and all those are nice schools, but too $ for me and too far away as well.

At UNO they randomly put you in classes based on what has room. Brakes and all that stuff is really boring because its all basic, but suprisingly there are some people that don't know crap about them so its a good thing that we have to take them. Not only that but its not a bad idea to show you the proper way to do it since not everyone has been doing this stuff the right way. So far I've taken Automatic trans, manual trans, brakes, and electrical. They're all pretty simple a straightforward so far. Maybe once I get into hipo engine building and classes like that it will start to be be fun.

Shawn