Differences between -85 TPI and -86 & up
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From: Uppsala, Sweden
Car: Camaro IROC-Z '89
Engine: 350 TPI /w Procharger P1SC
Transmission: TH700R4 with Transgo shiftkit
Axle/Gears: 2.77 Borg Warner
Differences between -85 TPI and -86 & up
What are the main difference between the TPI setup on the '85 TPI systems and the 86 and newer?
(A friend is going to buy a thirdgen and wants to know.....)
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ZaphodB a.k.a Carl Andersson - zaphodb@faxancruisers.org
'89 Camaro IROC-Z 5.7L TPI - Mods under construction :-)
Ed Wright Fastchip Stage II/160 stat, Edelbrock TES Headers,
SLP Airfoil, K&N Filters, Accel 8mm wires, Relocated MAT, AFPR @ 47 PSI
(A friend is going to buy a thirdgen and wants to know.....)
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ZaphodB a.k.a Carl Andersson - zaphodb@faxancruisers.org
'89 Camaro IROC-Z 5.7L TPI - Mods under construction :-)
Ed Wright Fastchip Stage II/160 stat, Edelbrock TES Headers,
SLP Airfoil, K&N Filters, Accel 8mm wires, Relocated MAT, AFPR @ 47 PSI
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From: Orange, SoCal
Car: 1990 Pontiac Trans Am
Engine: 355 TPI siamesed runners
Transmission: Tremec T56
Axle/Gears: 12-Bolt 3.73
The hardware itself, runners, TBI, plenum, intake manifold, etc, are identical to 86-88 setups. (except the intake manifold, its 85-86 specific). The wiring harness, and computer are used only in the 85 models, and are considered inferior to the 86+ computer.
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The main diference also is with the MAF and its control module. They are both separate from the ECM whereas 86-89 integrates the control module into the ECM. This makes the 85 version more expensive. I vaguely recall someone quoting a price of $1000 from the dealer, but I could be wrong. If he plans to modify, I would tell him to skip it.
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From: Orange, SoCal
Car: 1990 Pontiac Trans Am
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Transmission: Tremec T56
Axle/Gears: 12-Bolt 3.73
Thats an 85-88 thing, the grooves on the plenum. 89-92 have shorter grooves.
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From: Norfolk, VA
Car: 1985 Trans Am
Engine: 305 TPI
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Omar is right, the 85 ECM and MAF setup are different. The MAF Burnoff Module is $961 from GM, there is no aftermarket module available. In 86 MAF control was integrated into the ECM and used 2 $9 relays, one for power and one for burnoff cycle. The ECM in the 85, the "870" ECM is a dog, thanks to a LOT of help from Mike Davis (85MikeTPI) we swapped it out with the 86-89 "165" ECM, probably the best mod that has ever been done to my car. That burnoff module is a headache, I smile every time I walk out to my garage and see that thing sitting up on top of my toolbox. Details of how to perform the ECM/MAF setup swap can be seen at my page below. Good luck to you.
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Kevin Irving
85 Trans Am WS-6, 305 TPI, custom burned '86 PROM with '87 "165"ECM, Accel Supercoil & 8.8 Wires, MSD 6AL, Aluminum Driveshaft, TB Coolant Bypass, Ported Plenum, Modified MAF, Syclone Fuel Pump, JET Airfoil
15.556 @ 86.65mph, Nov 10, 2000.... I know it sucks.. but it will get better!
http://www.geocities.com/transam85tpi/
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Kevin Irving
85 Trans Am WS-6, 305 TPI, custom burned '86 PROM with '87 "165"ECM, Accel Supercoil & 8.8 Wires, MSD 6AL, Aluminum Driveshaft, TB Coolant Bypass, Ported Plenum, Modified MAF, Syclone Fuel Pump, JET Airfoil
15.556 @ 86.65mph, Nov 10, 2000.... I know it sucks.. but it will get better!
http://www.geocities.com/transam85tpi/
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