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Old Sep 8, 2007 | 08:11 PM
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ares these gonna be worth it??

i just got my car back from inspection, somehow it passed (we ripped out the entire smog system, and the a/c) and i was looking at some simple bolt on upgrades that look bennificial

i have a brand new 305 block, with a cam that gives noticeably more torque than the stock one, idk what exactly, it came with the engine (but i proved it against my friend's 1990 trans am lb9)

i was looking around on hawks' 3rd gen, and came across an SLP cold air induction package, a throttle body air foil, and a lower radiator air damn

all of wich i would like to get as soon as i get a new distributor (one of the wholes where one of the screws goes in completely stripped out, and this distributor is 2 months old)

im just looking for some feedback on wether or not those 3 things are even worth spending money on
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Old Sep 8, 2007 | 08:42 PM
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Re: ares these gonna be worth it??

um it would help but i would make my own cold air and save the money. u need a 90 degree PVC pipe and a straight peice 3" cut it to fit the MAF and then get a 3" conical highflow filter and WAAALA!! prob flow better too. the air foil will help alil by smoothing out the air goin into the TB which will give u alil better throttle response and a tiny bit of HP. the air dam idk about... i thought they came on the car but that will help with cooling i guess.

id say 15hp over stock give or take
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Old Sep 8, 2007 | 09:34 PM
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Re: ares these gonna be worth it??

thnx, im not sure about the air dam, idk if theres one on my car or not, ill check it out tomorrow morning, its too dark out to do ne thing at the moment, lol
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Old Sep 9, 2007 | 03:58 PM
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Re: ares these gonna be worth it??

its a huge black plastic airdam that is the entire underside of the car right below the radiatior and goes all the way to the wheel wells. u could see it if u were cleaning the windshield. lol your car has one unless over the yrs it has been ripped off/destroyed. if u didnt have one your car would overheat really bad on the highway since its point is to divert air at highway speeds up to the radiator.

personally i wouldnt get the SLP cold air kit. way too much $ IMHO. the air foil i picked up at a sway meet for 25$ its either a SLP one or a TPIS by the design.but its kinda pointless now that i have it bc i have a 58mm TB that is gianormus comepared to the stock 48mm and all aftermarket ones are machined with the airfoil as part of the TB since its a highflow design.
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Old Sep 9, 2007 | 04:07 PM
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Re: ares these gonna be worth it??

dont get the SLP kit.... its not worth the gains. you can get good gains by cutting the boxes out where the air filters sit. Take some dryer exhaust ducting and make custom ram air to the fog lights. you'll get noticeably more airflow to that region. drive it for a month or two and look how dirty the filters get. your gettin good air in there but you need to clean the filters often.

Dont use PVC to make a intake tho if you want ot make your own. when pvc gets hot it will emit toxic gases and may harm the motor. Its just not a good idea...do some searches on the topic and you'll see.

air dam is a good idea. you need that to get air up into the motor/radiator region. it really helps cooling the radiator down
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Old Sep 9, 2007 | 10:43 PM
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Re: ares these gonna be worth it??

good call on not using the pvc, ill mostly likely be making my own sort of ram air induction, and as far as my airdam goes, its half there and half not, it looks like my car has bottomed out a fair amount of times b4 ive owned it, also my car doesnt have the foglights its just got some louver-like grille

one more question though, ive read somewhere about de-screening the MAF, does anyone thing thats even worth it?
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Old Sep 9, 2007 | 11:22 PM
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Re: ares these gonna be worth it??

well i have seen ppl use PVC and have been fine, but i still dont like that idea. Another suggestion is to use ABS sewer piping as its thicker than pvc and should withstand the heat better.


I have descreened my MAF but didnt notice anything different. Car didnt increase or decrease really....it does increase airflow so it may throw off your fuel tables abit, but then again maybe not. the airflow pattern is affected so the MAF may calculate the incoming air differently. hard to say but to be safe i wouldnt do it until you actually need more airflow such as a bigger inch motor with a hot cam and heads setup. By then i guess its better to go speed density anyway
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Old Sep 10, 2007 | 01:23 PM
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Re: ares these gonna be worth it??

the PVC wont hurt the motor and it doesnt get that hot. prob no more than 110 degrees since air is running through it and its located no where near the exhaust or coolant. i said pvc bc its a very simple way since i dont kno how mechanical he is with his hands. its 3" diameter and makes mandrel bends with constant inner diamerter thats smooth... cant really beat it. but there are better ways to make one. i was just stated easy and very cheap but very effective. not to mention its better than metal cuz it doesnt conduct heat as much giving u a cooler air charge. (doesnt matter that much lol)

also the camaros are easier to run ram air since your car is already setup for it with the front grill.

i descreened my maf but u really shouldnt bc it affects the air tables but it gives u a nice 100cfm jump. the stock MAF doesnt become a restriction untill 350-400hp then this is where u will see biggest improvemtns by descreening/porting the MAF. leave the MAF alone. do the cold air, look into a cooler fan temp switch and a 160/180 degree thermostat to help it run cooler and if u want the air foil. u'll pick up a few HP.
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