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Old Oct 26, 2007 | 04:32 PM
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Car: 1988 firbird formula
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how manny have a cammed TPI with MAF?

im wondering what everyone is using tuning wise, what .bin, .xdf... so on.. also what cam? im running a

1988 pontiac firebird 5.7l 350 TPI
cam is .474 lift .....230 234 duration 111 lsa
700r4 auto trans with 2500 stall
heads have 2.02/1.60 valves
1.5 rollerrockers
hooker headers
3" pipe to flowmaster muffler

i guess i just need more motavation.. im tempting a carb swap if i cant get this tuning thing down
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Old Oct 27, 2007 | 12:30 AM
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Re: how manny have a cammed TPI with MAF?

I wish I had the time and finances to tune my setup.
But, your setup should run/idle fine given the MAF
is pretty forgiving to camshafts changes.

I am running a single pattern cam with 112lsa, 305
081 cylinder heads, 1.52rr's on a 350 w/ shorty headers.
no stall at the moment, rebuilt 700r4.. pretty similar mods.
All on a stock tune and stock injectors, so I'm rather
satisfied at the moment.

Crane grind Hydraulic roller, as follows

Intake Duration at 050 inch Lift: 224
Exhaust Duration at 050 inch Lift: 224
Duration at 050 inch Lift: 224 int. 224 exh.
Intake Valve Lift with Factory Rocker Arm Ratio: 0.465 in.
Exhaust Valve Lift with Factory Rocker Arm Ratio: 0.465 in.
Valve Lift with Factory Rocker Arm Ratio: 0.465 int./0.465ext.
Lobe Separation (degrees): 112

The sucker fired up and purred, passed emissions and
smoked a BMW 525i all in the same week. Gas mileage
in right around 16-18mpg.

Is your car running? or yet to be started? I think
it will run fine initially.

If you have your own tuning equipment, duck
into the DIY/PROM tuning subforum to help out.

Last edited by TPI; Oct 27, 2007 at 12:40 AM.
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Old Oct 27, 2007 | 03:22 AM
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Car: 1989 TRANS AM GTA
Engine: 355 L98
Transmission: Built 700r4
Axle/Gears: BW 3.27
Re: how manny have a cammed TPI with MAF?

Originally Posted by avengersteve
im wondering what everyone is using tuning wise, what .bin, .xdf... so on.. also what cam? im running a

1988 pontiac firebird 5.7l 350 TPI
cam is .474 lift .....230 234 duration 111 lsa
700r4 auto trans with 2500 stall
heads have 2.02/1.60 valves
1.5 rollerrockers
hooker headers
3" pipe to flowmaster muffler

i guess i just need more motavation.. im tempting a carb swap if i cant get this tuning thing down
Your gonna have to tune that thing your lobe seperation is way to tight for a stock tpi computer you should have went with a 114 seperation

Originally Posted by TPI
I wish I had the time and finances to tune my setup.
But, your setup should run/idle fine given the MAF
is pretty forgiving to camshafts changes.

I am running a single pattern cam with 112lsa, 305
081 cylinder heads, 1.52rr's on a 350 w/ shorty headers.
no stall at the moment, rebuilt 700r4.. pretty similar mods.
All on a stock tune and stock injectors, so I'm rather
satisfied at the moment.

Crane grind Hydraulic roller, as follows

Intake Duration at 050 inch Lift: 224
Exhaust Duration at 050 inch Lift: 224
Duration at 050 inch Lift: 224 int. 224 exh.
Intake Valve Lift with Factory Rocker Arm Ratio: 0.465 in.
Exhaust Valve Lift with Factory Rocker Arm Ratio: 0.465 in.
Valve Lift with Factory Rocker Arm Ratio: 0.465 int./0.465ext.
Lobe Separation (degrees): 112

The sucker fired up and purred, passed emissions and
smoked a BMW 525i all in the same week. Gas mileage
in right around 16-18mpg.

Is your car running? or yet to be started? I think
it will run fine initially.

If you have your own tuning equipment, duck
into the DIY/PROM tuning subforum to help out.
If that was a newer bmw are you sure he was racing because he should have beat you with the list of mads you have...
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Old Oct 27, 2007 | 09:53 AM
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Re: how manny have a cammed TPI with MAF?

Originally Posted by ws6gta89
Your gonna have to tune that thing your lobe seperation is way to tight for a stock tpi computer you should have went with a 114 seperation

If that was a newer bmw are you sure he was racing because he should have beat you with the list of mads you have...


screw a 114 i, that to me is pointless if your going to do a cam swap do it big. my car is up and running, on a custom tune, my question is not what cam should i have went with, i chose a radical cam for a reason. i am having a hard time getting it just right so i was wondering what other people were using. it also runs fine on stock, but pig rich
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Old Oct 27, 2007 | 12:06 PM
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Re: how manny have a cammed TPI with MAF?

Originally Posted by ws6gta89
Your gonna have to tune that thing your lobe seperation is way to tight for a stock tpi computer you should have went with a 114 seperation

If that was a newer bmw are you sure he was racing because he should have beat you with the list of mads you have...
You sure about that? You have no clue do you.
110-114 is acceptable.. and will run and idle.
I didnt say It'll be good to go permenently.

the BMW was easy kill, boss. But, I shouldn't have to
say anything since you've run every cam profile on a TPI
motor
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Old Oct 27, 2007 | 12:38 PM
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Car: 88 Trans Am GTA
Engine: 383 Lingenfelter/AFR 670 hp
Transmission: 700r4 3500 stall
Axle/Gears: 3.90 9 inch
Re: how manny have a cammed TPI with MAF?

previous to my 383 i had my 355 in the car. Running tpis mini ram/maf system. AFR lingenfelter heads cnc ported. it had tpis zz9 cam. ran awesome up to 6300 rpm, had moderate amount of lope idle to it. never hessitated or anything. ran a little fat when cold tho, had to be careful not to foul a plug. Probably had fuel system off a bit.

Now im using the same heads/intake setup on my 383. going to a .510/.510 302/310 duration cam. specs are with 1.5 rockers. im using 1.6's so makes it .544 lift
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