#100! Joe what trans were you using, T56? Getting any closer with it? I am waiting for the final hood clearance calculations before I go ahead any further with the Ramjet. I am still building the Long block, just not decided on which intake yet. I still have my sweet AS&M LTR setup if the Ramjet wont clear, but I sure hope it does clear the hood.

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Paxton NOVI supercharger(SOLD, bougth turbo system!), Going single Turbocharger(With Luck!) 75HP N20 shot for charge air cooling, Lucas 42Lb injectors, Accel AFPR & 300+ ignition, coil and wires, Bosch Platinum plugs & O2 sensor
GM Ramjet intake with Vortec 3"bore T/B, E-TEC200 heads, Crane Gold 1.6RR's(sold, maybe Jesel next)& ZZ4 cam(small cam=streetable). GM Performance parts Steel crank & Eagle rods, TRW blower pistons W/ZGS rings, all balanced, splayed main 94Vortec block, 1 5/8" long headers(soon to me turbo manifolds), SLP 3"catback minus the kitty!
Moser 9", 35 Spline Detroit Locker & Moser axle's 3:50 ratio HRW 3.250 case with Daytona pinion support, Strange Billet housing ends & 1350 Billet yoke wearing 94Formula disc's held in by all Lakewood adjustable components. HI-TQ GER 700trans,
2400stall with Cyberdyne fuel PSI and trans temp guages on pillar guage pod, 24,000GVW B&M racing trans cooler. Edelbrock strut tower brace. Working on converting to 7730 ECM & Ramjet wiring conversion for new engine and turbo right now.

 

I did some measuring last night. Well, the Ram Jet is exactly 1 inch taller at the TB than the TPI setup. The TPI slopes down to give more clearance where the Ram Jet is just flat.

I took a socket (about 1inch tall) and set it on top of my TPI plenum on the 88 and the hood did shut. Keep in mind that the socket is only 9/16s wide or whatever and the Ram Jet manifold is like ~3inches wide at the top.

I think it will clear the powerbulge hood. You might have to cut or modify the hood's structural support on the underside a bit right above the TB, but I really think it will work.

Theres 101!

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L98, 3.27 9-bolt, Hooker shorty headers, custom 2.5inch Y-pipe, no cat, 3inch 2chamber flowmaster, JET AFPR, Ported MAF, Best ET: 13.86 @100mph. 1.99 60'
17 inch ROH "ZS" wheels. 17x8.5(front) and 17x9.5 (rear). Firestone Firehawk SZ50s. 245/45/zr17s and 275/40/zr17s. T56

On the way... Radar Blue 89 Formula, T56, Ram Jet 430, Ram Air, 17inch ROHs.

 

Oh yeah.. The car is going to have a 700r4 in it for a while. When I know it is running good and I can depend on it everyday, then I will pull the T56 out of my 88Formula and put it in the 89 formula. I have already installed the 6speed pedals and the hydraulics for the clutch, so ill jsut have to swap trannys.

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L98, 3.27 9-bolt, Hooker shorty headers, custom 2.5inch Y-pipe, no cat, 3inch 2chamber flowmaster, JET AFPR, Ported MAF, Best ET: 13.86 @100mph. 1.99 60'
17 inch ROH "ZS" wheels. 17x8.5(front) and 17x9.5 (rear). Firestone Firehawk SZ50s. 245/45/zr17s and 275/40/zr17s. T56

On the way... Radar Blue 89 Formula, T56, Ram Jet 430, Ram Air, 17inch ROHs.

 

OK Joe I will take your word for it on the hood clearance. I did notice while looking at some of your pics the other day that the Ramjet T/B already tilts down at a good angle, so that should help me out. Your engine had to have been tilted back at the bellhousing when you shot the pics if it's only an inch of diff. OK then my Ramjet project is back ON! Now where's that S&D phone # and my CC?

Thanks JOE!

 

S&D? Do you mean Scoggin-Dickey? If thats what you meant, the # is 1-800-456-0211. If you call ask for Jeff. He's the only Jeff in parts, and thats who I always get parts from for my personal vehicles. Tell him you seen my post here

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-Joseph
ASE Master Automobile Technician
Scoggin-Dickey Chevrolet

1967 Camaro (Vortec Heads, GM Vortec Intake, ZZ4 roller camshaft) --- Planning T-56 Install in the near future
1992 Firebird (Weiler Vortec Heads, LT4 Hot Cam, GM Vortec Intake, 3000 Stall, 3.73's, Auburn Posi)

 

Joseph Yeah I was talking about the S&D you work for. You get a frequent buyer discount if i mention your name? Or will I get a better discount? I have been holding these part #'s for about three weeks now, but am finishing the list and ready to get started on Tuesday, probably.

 

I wish I get a discount, sometimes my price seems to be more than the regular price
Jeff will probably be better to talk to because he has more EFI knowledge than most of the other salespeople. Actually he works in the technical assistance department of parts, I go talk to him everyday, and he comes back to the shop to ask me all the LS1 related technical stuff. He'll take care of you better if he knows I refered him

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-Joseph
ASE Master Automobile Technician
Scoggin-Dickey Chevrolet

1967 Camaro (Vortec Heads, GM Vortec Intake, ZZ4 roller camshaft) --- Planning T-56 Install in the near future
1992 Firebird (Weiler Vortec Heads, LT4 Hot Cam, GM Vortec Intake, 3000 Stall, 3.73's, Auburn Posi)

 

Its hard to tell what exactly the clearance is, but remember that the hood isnt flat like that piece of wood, its higher in the middle and it might just be enough to clear the intake.

 

Yeah we already talked about the hoods not being flat in private. I am going to say that it has got to be VERY close, but not sure without a stock hood bolted on a Ramjet engine, it's hard to tell. Guess I might found out first?

 

By the way, here is the part number for the aeromotive AFPR. Aeromotive part# 131-06-B Hope this helps.

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L98, 3.27 9-bolt, Hooker shorty headers, custom 2.5inch Y-pipe, no cat, 3inch 2chamber flowmaster, JET AFPR, Ported MAF, Best ET: 13.86 @100mph. 1.99 60'
17 inch ROH "ZS" wheels. 17x8.5(front) and 17x9.5 (rear). Firestone Firehawk SZ50s. 245/45/zr17s and 275/40/zr17s. T56

On the way... Radar Blue 89 Formula, T56, Ram Jet 430, Ram Air, 17inch ROHs.

 

thi is the longest post I have ever launched.....

 

I got a question about the wiring. Are the wire colors for the RJ TB and TPI TB the same. How will I know what wire goes where. I could track the wires down to where they go but there has to be an easier way. FormulaJow did you convert from TPI? I also looked up the ford injectors and they are $20 dollars less at 209.99. What PSI are they rated at and what PSI does the RamJet use? FormulaJoe you are using 30lbs right. Would that be too much for a Vortec headed L98 cammed RamJet? I will enventually moove up to a Fastburn LT-4 HOT.

[This message has been edited by camaro6spd (edited June 23, 2001).]

 

ok?? ...ttt

 

Woah! this post rocks! i always wondered what a Ram Jet intake would be like for our cars.

Please keep posting information, this project sounds like it is less expensive then the various $3,000+ aftermarket intakes available out on the market, and also looks like it offers a solution of the torque/horsepower band problem between the accell superram, and the TIPS miniram.

Please dyno, or at least give us 1/4 mile times once its finished please!!

-c

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1986 IROC Camaro
305 TPI "LB9"
3.23 gears
Doesn't know enough about cars.
AIM: jesusathome

 

Hey FormulaJoe, what is your engine rev limiter going to be set at? I was doing some research and found that AS+M wouldn't program for more than 6200rpms. I dunno why because I think your setup should be good to 6500 at least. It may even build to 6700-6800 depending on fuel/air limits. Let us know how it turns out.

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-Joseph
ASE Master Auto Technician
Sunset RaceCraft Racing Engines
Scoggin-Dickey Chevrolet
AOL IM: JosephSDSC
1967 Camaro (5.7L, Vortec Heads, ZZ4 Camshaft, GM Vortec Intake)
1992 Firebird (5.7L, Vortec Heads, LT4 Hot Cam, GM Vortec Intake, 3000 Stall, 3.73's, Auburn Posi)

 

Joseph, I have talked to AS&M and the highest they can go with the MEFI3 computer is 62 or 6300RPM at which point the fuel is cut off....not good. Im probably going to put an MSD on it with a 6000RPM rev limiter. I think it will make power beyond 6000, but if I want to tap into that, I might have to use a 7730 speed density computer. Well see.

Oh, dont worry about 1/4 mile times. As soon as that motor get some miles on it, its going to the track. I need some gears for it though, the car has a 3.27 9bolt in it. Anyone know where I can get some 3.70s at a good price??? That motor could use some gear.

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L98, 3.27 9-bolt, Hooker shorty headers, custom 2.5inch Y-pipe, no cat, 3inch 2chamber flowmaster, JET AFPR, Ported MAF, Best ET: 13.86 @100mph. 1.99 60'
17 inch ROH "ZS" wheels. 17x8.5(front) and 17x9.5 (rear). Firestone Firehawk SZ50s. 245/45/zr17s and 275/40/zr17s. T56

On the way... Radar Blue 89 Formula, T56, Ram Jet 430, Ram Air, 17inch ROHs.

 

Joey get your trans in yet? Just wondering, I had not seen anything about it recently?

 

Havent put it back in yet...Been so busy with work lately. I havent really had the motivation because even if I do put it in right now, Im gonna have to wait for some more cash before I do anything else, so it will just be sitting in the garage anyways..

I think Im gonna have the money to get the computer reprogrammed next week and get my accessory brackets coated. Thats all I really lack (oh, fuel lines too). If my next pay check is as fat as I think its gonna be, I might have that thing fired up in the next two weeks! Keep you guys posted.

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L98, 3.27 9-bolt, Hooker shorty headers, custom 2.5inch Y-pipe, no cat, 3inch 2chamber flowmaster, JET AFPR, Ported MAF, Best ET: 13.86 @100mph. 1.99 60'
17 inch ROH "ZS" wheels. 17x8.5(front) and 17x9.5 (rear). Firestone Firehawk SZ50s. 245/45/zr17s and 275/40/zr17s. T56

On the way... Radar Blue 89 Formula, T56, Ram Jet 430, Ram Air, 17inch ROHs.

[This message has been edited by FormulaJoe (edited June 29, 2001).]

 

Back ^ Anybody tried getting the wiring plugs for the TPS and IAC yet?

 

I doubt those plugs are anything fancy. They are probably just a standard weatherpack connector of some sort. You could probably get them at any GM dealership parts department.

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L98, 3.27 9-bolt, Hooker shorty headers, custom 2.5inch Y-pipe, no cat, 3inch 2chamber flowmaster, JET AFPR, Ported MAF, Best ET: 13.86 @100mph. 1.99 60'
17 inch ROH "ZS" wheels. 17x8.5(front) and 17x9.5 (rear). Firestone Firehawk SZ50s. 245/45/zr17s and 275/40/zr17s. T56

On the way... Radar Blue 89 Formula, T56, Ram Jet 430, Ram Air, 17inch ROHs.

 

How do you guys think the Ramjet would react to a supercharger?
And not on a 350, a 383 or bigger.

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89 RS 350 TBI auto Hooker SC/LT headers Open element 3in K&N CVT protorque mini-starter

Daily driver 91 RS auto LO3 63k

New project- 89 Formula 350 WS6
383 or 400 to come!

 

I don't know exactly, but by mid to late fall, i'll have a paxton blown L98 with vortec heads, ramjet, and a ZZ4 cam. I'll let you know then. Next project is gonna be a set of hogged out vortec heads on a 406 with ramjet and boost, but that's a ways off.

 

Does the 1999 454 TB (80mm I believe) bolt up same as the LS1 TB?....

Will it work w/ no mods on the RamJet?

(I know it's not likely necessary)

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jmd
1986 SS with...
86LB9 TPI atop the original L69, hydraulic clutch T5, Energizer 272 cam, chargedair.com fan, Global West CNR-88-C negative roll kit, 89 Iroc front springs, CC635 Moog rear springs and a whole bunch of other fun stuff

 

Sent the Ram Jet MEFI3 computer to AS&M the other day. Should get it back in a week or so.

Now I just need a water pump, alternator and some fuel lines and I can fire it up!!

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L98, 3.27 9-bolt, Hooker shorty headers, custom 2.5inch Y-pipe, no cat, 3inch 2chamber flowmaster, JET AFPR, Ported MAF, Best ET: 13.86 @100mph. 1.99 60'
17 inch ROH "ZS" wheels. 17x8.5(front) and 17x9.5 (rear). Firestone Firehawk SZ50s. 245/45/zr17s and 275/40/zr17s. T56

On the way... Radar Blue 89 Formula, T56, Ram Jet 430, Ram Air, 17inch ROHs.

 

Hey Wraith, when you get all that set up send me an email Ryan__SS@hotmail.com or put up a post on here or the Power Adder board. I will be starting the build up of an engine (possibly 396!) for my Formula soon and am looking for a good induction system to work with the supercharger I will put on it eventually. I know there is a lot of argument about Miniram VS Superram, and maybe the Ramjet will be a perfect compromise (power throughout the RPM range).
Thanks in advance.

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89 RS 350 TBI auto Hooker SC/LT headers Open element 3in K&N CVT protorque mini-starter

Daily driver 91 RS auto LO3 63k

New project- 89 Formula 350 WS6
383 or 400 to come!

 

Just as an update and FYI, Street and Performance is now selling a fuel line kit for the Ram Jet intake. It is $89 and comes in drivers side or passenger side exit. I just got done ordering the drivers side exit version.

Also got my MEFI3 ECU back from AS&M modified for the Hot cam and fastburn heads.

Cant wait to fire it up and see how it sounds. I will keep you posted.

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L98, 3.27 9-bolt, Hooker shorty headers, custom 2.5inch Y-pipe, no cat, 3inch 2chamber flowmaster, JET AFPR, Ported MAF, Best ET: 13.86 @100mph. 1.99 60'
17 inch ROH "ZS" wheels. 17x8.5(front) and 17x9.5 (rear). Firestone Firehawk SZ50s. 245/45/zr17s and 275/40/zr17s. T56

On the way... Radar Blue 89 Formula, T56, Ram Jet 430, Ram Air, 17inch ROHs.

 

Installed the Street & Performance fuel lines on the Ram Jet the other day. Im impressed with them. The lines are polished stainless and fit really well. I think it was worth the $89. Check out street and performance's website for some other good info and products regarding the Ram Jet intake.

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L98, 3.27 9-bolt, Hooker shorty headers, custom 2.5inch Y-pipe, no cat, 3inch 2chamber flowmaster, JET AFPR, Ported MAF, Best ET: 13.86 @100mph. 1.99 60'
17 inch ROH "ZS" wheels. 17x8.5(front) and 17x9.5 (rear). Firestone Firehawk SZ50s. 245/45/zr17s and 275/40/zr17s. T56

On the way... Radar Blue 89 Formula, T56, Ram Jet 430, Ram Air, 17inch ROHs.

 

thanks, keep us posted.

 

Hey, would you guys mind starting another thread? Those of use with modem lines take awhile to load up.

Thanks

 

Joe whats the latest on your project? Ever get the trans bolted in?

 

I started the motor up this weekend. I was trying to get it all buttoned up to drive and the dam fuel pump went out. Oh well. I need a good aftermarket one anyways. I going with a Walbro 255 I think. BTW, it wasnt very hard to pull the tank without the exhaust back there!! Took all of 30 minutes. I plan on getting the new pump this week and driving it next weekend. Ill keep you posted.

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L98, 3.27 9-bolt, Hooker shorty headers, custom 2.5inch Y-pipe, no cat, 3inch 2chamber flowmaster, JET AFPR, Ported MAF, Best ET: 13.86 @100mph. 1.99 60'
17 inch ROH "ZS" wheels. 17x8.5(front) and 17x9.5 (rear). Firestone Firehawk SZ50s. 245/45/zr17s and 275/40/zr17s. T56

On the way... Radar Blue 89 Formula, T56, Ram Jet 430, Ram Air, 17inch ROHs.

 

Did that car ever make it back onto the streets??

I don't post here often but I'm in the middle of a RamJet engine buildup also...I have E-Tec 200 heads, a Comp K-kit(It's not small either), and a lot of shortblock parts laying around here but I'm far from finished...

Just checkin in on you guys! That thread definately took a few minutes to read lol Lot of info not found elsewhere which is damn cool!

Denny
www.denny.cz28.com

 

Yes the ram jet does clear the hood on a production small block in a third gen camaro but might have some issues in a firebird/TA. The only other surviveing Heritage Edition 92 RS camaro was turned into a screaming millenium yellow ram jet test mule with a corvett 6 speed. From the looks of it in the car seems like it is about the same height as a TPI unit, possibly a little taller but not much. It uses a stock LS1 throttle body from a 98-present LS1 F car. As for useing the other throttle body's, I don't know if they will work but I'm sure they could since they are from a Vortech motor. The IAC and TPS look like they would accecpt the stock plug-ins because I have a throttle body off a 91 TPI and the LS1 throttle body, and the pins and shape is identacle to each other. I just don't have the SD wiring harness for the car yet.But if you want more accurate info,call AS&M because they designed it(after modifying Miniram and LT1 intakes from what I was told by an insider) and GMPP gets theirs from them.AS&M will sell the fuel rail kit for $200.00 plus 10.00 for s&h.