This one pretty much explains itself. I must know because it looks really really fast.

 

You know, i'd like to know more myself. I'm very tempted to raise the flag on it, but perhaps he is just a hardcore underground street racer who doesn't want to broadcast ETs.
Then again, a vortech R trim pushing 14psi is good for prolly 5-800hp by itself. Of course his 10.1:1 compression and iron heads must make it fun to keep from detonating. Especially under a 150 shot.
I'm not saying it can't work, just that all signs point to something fishy here.

 

with 105 octane and a blower cam it's very possible to keep it from detonating.i'm sure if he wanted evryone to know he would have posted it(if i was ruunning a 500 hp motor and making money on the the poor saps wanting to run i wouldn't post either)...

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87 trans am,gm crate 350(4 bolt mains 10to1),L98 aluminum heads,LT4 hot cam,slp runners,slp 1 5/8 headers,3in.y-pipe,edelbrock base,hi flo cat,air foil,afpr,as&m ported plenum,gutted airbox,t-5 tranny w/centerforce clutch and a 3.27 9bolt(11.9in. brakes),ed wright's fastchip,relocated iat sensor,160 fan switch&t-stat,tb bypass,accel supercoil,cap& rotor,slp 3in. catbcak,a/c delete.

car has found a new home
she will be relocating soon,thanx to all that were interested and the few who had purchased some of the many,many extra parts i had accumulated over the years.

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He lives close to me. Ive seen the car around a couple of times. I dont think he has ever really had it running right. My friend beat him a while ago in his carbed 383 iroc. Daryls car was running his old blower set up I believe. Ill be out again soon on our little street racing scene. With my new low compression 383 afr 227's and a d1sc. Cant wait.

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87z 383,afr 190's, comp hyd roller(242/248-.540/.562,114 sep),Ported and polished mini ram, 30lb inj, 3.42 gears, tremec 5spd, , 1,3/4" slp headers, speed pro bank to bank-wb02.

[This message has been edited by 87Z-ya (edited September 27, 2001).]

 

When I was street racing,, if I said a time it was always slower than what I though the sucker asking could run himself.

 

funny Whan has never beaten me whin i had the blower hooked up and running 14psi
and the last time i ran him with the car i had a fresh motor and was breaking it in
with out the blower and no nos on a 8.1 copression motor
but i guess if that counts as beating me oh well
ask him how many time he pased me when i had the blower.
but dont get me wrong his car is baddass and fast too.

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388 SuperRam, DFI, Vortech R trim ,N.O.S.,alki injection,
Dart sportmansII heads,50 pound injectors, Headman full headers
duel 3' exhaust,and Flowmasters, Ford nine inch with 370's
Ronal rims with Nitto drad raidals.

 

Well i'll put it to you this way:

there is a local GTA that goes 10.70s on boost with a 383 and a TPI INTAKE with about 15psi of boost

Car THEN goes 9.60s with 3 stages of n2o

So come to your own conclusion about DARCOM'S car

 

Im not bad mouthing your car. Thats what juan told me. In fact Id like to check your car out some time. Maybe we could compare notes. Ill have my car together in about 3 weeks, without the blower. I forgot to mention in the other post that juans car runs mid 12's on motor high tens on spray.

[This message has been edited by 87Z-ya (edited September 29, 2001).]

 

ok that sound great. also im doing a rebuild right now
going back to 10.1 compression the 8.1 was ok
it felt the same just less power and i can controll
the detonation probs with cooling and race gas but i also like to drive
my car around with out the blower just to cruse it and the car becomes a slug
with the 8.1 as i found out.

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388 SuperRam, DFI, Vortech R trim ,N.O.S.,alki injection,
Dart sportmansII heads,50 pound injectors, Headman full headers
duel 3' exhaust,and Flowmasters, Ford nine inch with 370's
Ronal rims with Nitto drad raidals.

 

hey darcom, quit bein a fruitcake and tell us what u run! LOL or not. it is kinda like warren johnson taping cardboard over his intake manifold.

 

hehehe.....

you'd be surprised how many street racers roam the boards and never say anything but READ everything....email him.

Maybe he'll tell you maybe he wont.

doesn't really matter as long as you enjoy the car

 

I emailed him. That is why I put up this post.

 

What i don't understand is what the big secret is all about. I understand the concept of secrecy when it comes to street racing, but if you lay these cards on the table from jump street...

1- he admits to running a 388. Why not lie and say it's a 350, why admit to having inches. Where i'm from, 2 freeze plug 400 blocks are popular for this reason.

2- He admits to running an R trim blower. I *might* be talking out of my *** on this one, but i could swear that the vortech A, S and R trim all share the same housing. I'm 99% sure the A and S do, and i thought i read the R was the same way. I knew a mustang guy who had an upgraded A trim (to an S), but still got a lot of bites cuz the vortech ID tag still was stamped A trim, after all, what can an entry level blower be worth, lol. Why wouldn't he simply say it has a blower, or lie and say it's an S trim to encourage bites. An R trim will push a couple hundred more HP than an S trim, why advertise. (same idea as GNs, you can upgrade the impleller within the stock housing, thus you have a 'stock' turbo.)

3- He advertise his nitrous. Ummm, why doesn't he hide it like every other street racer. Prolly cuz he's pushing a lot more than a simple 150 shot, at least i'd hope so if hes willing to admit it's on the car.

Basically, if i was an area street racer lurking this board, i already know enough about your combo from what you advertise that done properly it should be square in the 9s no matter what, depending on how effectively he tunes for the boost and how big the nitrous shot really is.
I mean, it just seems silly to have 'secrets' when you're whole combo is laid out for us (lol, thats prolly the secret, maybe his combo is 4x as intense as he admits and it runs 8s)

 

well in darcoms defense...i'm sure he has spend a lot of money doing this combo and finding out what works

it is his decision whether or not he is going to just let everyone know what he runs

Just his choice

 

Why not just look at his site to see what he has ?

http://darcom.home.texas.net/darcom/Z28_PAGEx.html

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Ed, I am in complete agreement. Deadbird, I am looking for times. I have a feeling that his times are a secret because he has so many parts aren't tuned properly. Not saying I can go pick but he should be 9's and probably is far off.

 

I don't understand why you guys care. He doesn't care so let it be. He is sitting at home laughin his head off at you guys making "guesstimates" of wondering what times he runs. He doesn't want to say so let it be. I hate it when ppl. are all secretive and clandestine. When i build my engine if someone asks I'll tell them what i have. I DON'T LIKE PLAYING GAMES! Later Derrick

 

Thats exactly it, why play games. Personally i could give less of a **** what it runs, but when these texas street racer guys show up talking trash like they are all hardcore underground, yet the dude posts his combo w/ the glaring places where a typical street racer lies it just seems weird. Maybe they're lying about the whole thing (...a distinct possibility, you'd either have to be damn good and on a serious budget to run iron dart IIs on a 10:1 race trim blower motor. Even fully ported dart IIs aren't that great relatively though the blower makes up for that... or a dumb kid making up a combo with buzzwords he's heard), or maybe they're all just weird dudes... we get all types through here, lol

 

Hi,
welp i cant say what my car runs yet.it is an on going project for me
witch i enjoy very much. its a large science project to see what works.
iv tried many combos to see what works and what does not
so at time my car does not run its best and some time it scares the hell ot of me
then i get use to it and want more.so it is off to see what i can change.
if i said what my car ran publicly that would mean i would have to prove it
to someone here in my town then it would turn into a my car is faster than yours game.
whitch i dont realy care for i just do it for the plsuere
of building somethang with my own hands and also help my friends out whin i can.
but i will take my car to the track soon ,vidieo tape it and post it on my site
for all to see. but untell then just guess. :þ

this link works a little better
http://darcom.home.texas.net/
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388 SuperRam, DFI, Vortech R trim ,N.O.S.,alki injection,
Dart sportmansII heads,50 pound injectors, Headman full headers
duel 3' exhaust,and Flowmasters, Ford nine inch with 370's
Ronal rims with Nitto drad raidals.

[This message has been edited by DARCOM (edited October 03, 2001).]

 

Well said. i totally agree with you and i hope you enjoy the car.

 

I think you need to go back to school to learn how to spell.

Nice car though.

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keep quessing and don't get mad if i still dont tell ya.

 

I've talked to Dar enough and I've come to this conclusion and I can very well respect this: Why would he want to post his times? Does he have something to prove to all of us? If he posts his times then all of the local street racers are gonna be pestering him day in and day out to race. There's always going to be someone that want to try him out. I'm sorry but when I build my car no one will know my times except for those that go with me to the track. I don't want a bunch of little punks wanting to race me because they found out what I ran. I like to pick the races and not someone else.

Dar, I'm not trying to label you or anything. If I were in your shoes, I'd do the same thing. In fact, I wouldn't post the video at all. Why does anyone here need to know what you run? If they're that curious as to the point where they get mad, then they need to work on their own car and not worry about your's.

Later Dar.