PaveTim

How much does a miniram setup go for? Any of you guys familiar with accel superam? I'm not sure which one, the miniram or superam?

86 IROC

iTrader: (3)

The Mini Ram is $1255 w/ the fuel rail kit. It breaks down to $895 for the intake, and $355 for a fuel rail kit.

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1986 IROC, fully loaded, Mini Ram'd 383, Art Carr 700R4, Accel DFI, 12 bolt rear, etc, etc......

Dan87IROC-Z

Also remember you're going to need the MR chip, which is another $550 I think.

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1987 Chevy Camaro IROC-Z
L98 TPI 350 (5.7L)
TH 700R-4 Transmission
Borg Warner 7.75" 9 Bolt Rear End with 2.77:1 Gears.

Current Mods: LT4 HOT Cam, Comp Cams 1.52:1 Roller Rocker Arms, Accel High Flow TPI Baseplate, Edelbrock TES 1 5/8" Headers, Catco 3" High-Flow Catalytic Converter, Hooker 3" Aerochamber Cat-Back System, Transgo Shift Kit, Performance Resource Chip, Accel Ignition, K&N Filters, Jet TPI Air Foil, All Free Mods, Falken ZIEX Z-Rated Tires.

Best ET: 14.32 @ 97.7mph
(corrected for elevation)

age

Dan, do you mean a custom burned prom, or a chip specifically from tpis?

Randy92Z

iTrader: (3)

you just need a custom burned prom. I got mine from Ed Wright for his old price of $300, now I believe its $350.

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Convertible, L98, Mini-ram, ZZ9 cam, Comp Cams 1.6/1.52 steel roller rockers, Trick Flow 23* heads, K&N's with chopped airboxes, March underdive pulleys, Edelbrock ceramic coated TES, Flowmaster cat-back exhaust, Dynomax high flow converter, Accel 300+ box & coil, Taylor 409 wires, Fastchips custom chip, MAC sub frame connecters, Lakewood LCA & Adj. Panhard rod, SLP 2500 stall, 3.42 rear gears, 1LE aluminum driveshaft, white face gagues, and NOS!

Beast5spdGTA

what does your car run randy?

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14.62@96mph headers, muffler, chip, ghetto stuff, duct tape
89 GTA 305 TPI 5 speed 3.42 gears

TPI Guy

I've had limited experience with the Super Ram... It's a pain in the rear to install, unless you know a few secrets. I didn't know the secrets...
Basically it boils down to this, if you are going to run above 6000 RPM, and don't mind running 3.73's or 4.10's, go with the mini. If you aren't gonna rev that high, and do more street driving than strip, SuperRam it.

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355 c.i.
Dart 180 Heads
Lunati 224/224 cam
Harland Sharp 1.5 rockers
Performer RPM Manifold
Holley 600 cfm double pumper
Hooker Super Competition Headers
Flowmaster Exhaust
Competition Engineering Sub-frame connectors
Super T-10
GM posi 3.42 rear
Hurst Roll Control
13.9@102

AaronIROCZ

iTrader: (5)

or you could get a LT1 intake which is about the same as a miniram but LOTS cheaper. They made it fit the older small blocks.

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89 Iroc 350 TPI,
Forged pistions
Comp roller Cam .510 lift 230dur
Flowmaster exhaust
Dart Iron Eagle heads 200cc runners 64cc chambers
LT1 intake soon...if I can find one!!!
stock TPI for now 24# inj
87 Trans Am GTA 350 TPI
had engine fire
SHE NOW RUNS!!!!
Flowmaster exhaust
LT1 Injectors
LT1 intake also if I can find one!!

Matt87GTA

Actually the Miniram is a bit better than an LT1 intake. I have been to TPIS (about 20 minutes from my house) and have looked over the Miniram pretty well. I saw a few things that are different about it, besides having a coolant passage and provisions for a thermostat housing, and a distributer mounting hole. The 'plenum' area of the Miniram is raised off the bottom of the intake manifold, which keeps the air cooler as it goes through the intake manifold since the hot oil that splashes on the underside of the intake won't heat up the plenum floor.. It is like a single plain or 'Air-Gap' carbed manifold setup..... That raised 'plenum' area also means that the runners are about an inch longer than that of an LT1 intake. So basically it is an LT1 intake with provisions for a non-LT1 block and heads setup. But it really does have a few benefits over the factory GM LT1 manifold design..... I know, I know.... it is too expensive..... tell that to Myron...

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1987 GTA L98 MD8
355, TFS Heads, LT4 Hot Cam
My GTA

The Minnesota F-body Club

[This message has been edited by Matt87GTA (edited October 30, 2001).]

PaveTim

To AaronIrocZ. It sounds like you have the XR278 comp cams? You have a setup like I want to go. How does your car run. Does it still seem to die after 5000 like most TPI's do?

Grim Reaper

One thing people always seem to rag the Miniram about is that you LOOSE bottom end torque and it is strictly a HIGH rpm intake. This is NOT true.

I have a buddy that had a Miniram on his ZZ4 block and then upgraded to a 383. On both engines, he specifically selected a shorter duration cam/high lift as he is not into winding out his motor to 7,000 rpm either.

I can tell you that NEITHER of his engine combos suffered from "lack of torque". His 350 felt like it had just as much bottom end torque as my L98 (and of course his top end was much better). And his 383 flat out blows my 350 away through out the powerband.

The Miniram promotes a "flat torque curve" while TPI promotes a "curve" with the high at the lower part of the power band and then it falls off. The Miniram does have a lower "peak torque", but the peak is not much lower than TPI.

The key to where the engine is going to make its power has more to do with cam selection. And again, I think the Miniram wins here, as it seems to work with a wider selection of cams than other intakes (of course, getting a cam specifically for the Miniram is best).

Probably the biggest reason to NOT select the Miniram (if a person is contemplating changing their intake) is if you have emission testing AND they specifically check for a functioning EGR.