Is this the Fastest TPI Street Car out there?



Smitty @ Atco Raceway Dec. 6 1998
9.97 @ 135 mph
305 TPI



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Mike
1989 Turbo Trans-Am
11.25@121.25
Daily Driver

1998 Trans-Am LS1 6 Speed
13.10@106
Slow POS sitting in the Driveway awaiting repairs and then its For Sale. No More V8 Cars for me.

 

Yeah, it's gotta be. That sure is a nice pic. I would love to know what his power-to-weight ratio is. From what I've seen at the track, "street legal" does not mean "driveable". I bet it's not driven daily or emissions legal like mine.

But for now, gotta catch the fastest TTA I know of first. There's a guy locally who I personally saw run an 11.15. It took 26 pounds of boost to do it though. So how much boost do you need to run low 11's?

My sig tells the story. My car weighs 3,800 pounds with me in it.

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Willie

Supercharged 1987 305 IROC-Z, Daily-Driver, Emissions-Legal.
Former Paxton (6-psig): 12.57 @ 111 mph.
Former Paxton (6-psig) & Former 50-hp nitrous: 12.04 @ 114 mph.
Current ATI D1SC (Initially 10-psig): Projected high 11's.
ATI D1SC (15-psig): Gotta catch them pesky 26-psig boosted TTA's!!

http://willie.camaro-firebird.org/

1987 "20th Anniversary Commemorative Edition" Z28 Convertible -- Super Chevy Show Class Winner, 1998.

[This message has been edited by Willie (edited April 13, 2001).]

 

Thats one bad *** f-body.Do you know what kind of work that guys has done to run like that? Thanks,Al in NJ

Check out My Trans Am:
http://hometown.aol.com/italianknight178/index.html

 

Smitty HAD a Vortech T-Trim on then.
Now he has a T76 turbocharger on it.
It IS driven about 10K per year. Ive spoken with him on the email about it. I dont know if it is emissions legal though.



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-86 IROC
-406 EFI
-=ICON Motorsports=-
-Waiting on Speed Pro Wide Band EFI then putting Vortech S-Trim back on
-T76 turbo: In Engineering/Parts gathering stage

 

Quote:

<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by Willie:
[BFrom what I've seen at the track, "street legal" does not mean "driveable". I bet it's not driven daily or emissions legal like mine.

Its a daily driver in the summer time and never sees a trailer.

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Mike
1989 Turbo Trans-Am
11.25@121.25
Daily Driver

1998 Trans-Am LS1 6 Speed
13.10@106
Slow POS sitting in the Driveway awaiting repairs and then its For Sale. No More V8 Cars for me.

[This message has been edited by TTA (edited April 13, 2001).]

[This message has been edited by TTA (edited April 23, 2001).]

 

...almost enough to make you think twice about keeping that "lowly" V-8? Mr. Lingenfelter can make it sing for you, but he seldom gets east of Ohio.

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Later,
Vader
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"What a Day..."
Adobe Acrobat Reader

 

And that engine is so clean! Not a bunch of s**t mounted everywhere. Looks great!

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'87 Trans Am:
(Engine)
305 TPI
180 Degree Thermostat
JET Fan Switch
TB Bypass
Accel 300+ 8.8 Racing Wires
Accel Super Coil
Bosch Platinium Plugs
Custom Ram Air with K&N
Removed Emissions Equipment & Cat.
(Stereo)
Full Kenwood Excelon System

 

A friend of the person who built the headers (custom tubes in Woburn) sent it to me.

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-86 IROC
-406 EFI
-=ICON Motorsports=-
-Waiting on Speed Pro Wide Band EFI then putting Vortech S-Trim back on
-T76 turbo: In Engineering/Parts gathering stage

 

Does that cr have a government health warning on it?




Rob

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1987 IROC-Z Auto (LB9)
Black/grey interior with the stance of a streetfighter
I like to think of her as Arnold Schwartzeneger in a dinner suit

Mods
Custom exhaust. 4 Inch pipe from the headders all the way back to a single muffler at the rear. No Cat. K&Ns, AFPR and Air foil.

Future mods:
Cam change
New torque converter
New heads (maybe corvette L98)
Strut brace
Sub frame connectors
Ram Air

Current G-Tech times
0-60mph 6.26 seconds
1/4 14.74@100.2mph

 

wow and stock runners!? maybe we all oughta look into a turbo!

 

[/b][/QUOTE]
Smitty HAD a Vortech T-Trim on then.
Now he has a T76 turbocharger on it.
[/B][/QUOTE]

Where did he get the turbo kit, very interested???

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'89 Camaro RS 6cyl. auto, don't know how much longer I'll have it.
'90 Iroc TPI 305, 5 spd B&M Ripper shifter, hopefully I can rob a bank or something and get more
www.geocities.com/irocnroll90

 

guys, i think we're missing the fact that has amazed me the most, maybe you guys missed it, i dunno...but underneath that pic it says its a 305. Or was that a typo and meant to be a 350? please clear this up, a turbo could really shed some light on my car I might have to splice an extra 'T' inbetween G and A to make GTTA (grand turbo trans am, hehehe)

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1988 Pontiac GTA 5.0 TPI
-K&N Filter
-Hypertech Air Foil
-Hypertech Perf. Chip
-2.5in Flowmaster Muffler
-Catco Hi-flow Cat

15.32@88mph
2.077 60-ft.
Kills
94 Probe GT, 95 Mustang GT, 96 Impala SS, 85 Thunderbird 5.0, 95 Accord V6, 98 Integra VTEC, 70 Chevelle Malibu, CRX w/ Turbo and Intercooler (have it on tape to prove it)

 

Is it really a 305????????????????

 

yes its really a 305 and he ran that time at Atco? holy ****...that track is like butter sometimes

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Originating member of the SJNEP Crew
Member of the Jersey Fbody Crew(JFA)
Check out MyGTA Nicknamed:The Big Red Machine
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"What does not kill us only makes us stronger"

Tony

 

Here is the video of the 9 second roc.http://www.tta89.com/videos/smitty/305Iroc.mpg


[This message has been edited by BigMike 92 Z28 (edited April 17, 2001).]

 

WOW I that car is fast! I just saw the video it spanked that other car!

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'87 Trans Am:
(Engine)
305 TPI
180 Degree Thermostat
JET Fan Switch
TB Bypass
Accel 300+ 8.8 Racing Wires
Accel Super Coil
Bosch Platinium Plugs
Custom Ram Air with K&N
Removed Emissions Equipment & Cat.
(Stereo)
Full Kenwood Excelon System

 

That would be almost 650 to 700hp out of that 305. How the hell do you do that on a stock intake set up? How much PSI is he running out of that turbo and how did he build a block to handle it? That is freaking amazing.

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89 Trans Am Turbo 3.8L All stock 43,000 miles #1053 of 1555

Past Thirdgen:
86 Trans Am w/ built 355TPI with SLP goodies and too much other stuff to List. One sweet *** car, wish I would have had a good enough Job to pay insurance on three cars so I could keep it, but for a 89 Turbo Trans Am w/ Low miles, I think I made the right choice!

 

My god, that is absolutly retarded :O

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BigBlockJason
85 Z28 T-Tops
http://communities.msn.com/JasonsStuff/homepage

 

Bow down to the mighty 305!!
15.006 I'm almost there.

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87 Z28 305 TPI, Auto, LT-1 cam (@.50 418/430, 194/199, LSA 111), roller timing set, 2.73, Gutted air boxes, K & N fillters, Dyno Max 3" cat back, 8.8 mm spirals, air foil, and 170* Stat.
Old Best 15.414 @ 87.47.
new best 15.006 @ 89.55.

“Fallen But Not Forgotten”

 

YIKES! That is the fastest i've ever seen a third gen leave the line. That car kicks ***!

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'88 RS (originally 2.8)
-350, .040 over, vette alum. L98s, stock tpi.
-305 injectors & chip
-TES headers & edelbrock cat back
-3.73 gears, 700r4.
Best with 2.8-17.4@77mph
Best with 305-15.0@93mph
Best with 356-13.7@101mph
on a 2.050 60 ft.
(Damn the 2.8!)

 

Some1 should do that stuff to a 350 TPI, I'd like to see those results!!

 

damn thats now thats a 305 The reson that the intake is stock is cus the boost psi is FORCED thru and it really dosent choke it off
but It would be faster with the better runners&manifold......... you know
ah and for the fastest TPI car (other then mine lol )STOCK I would think that the say 88+or- a few years twin turbo callaway vette would take the cake for most HP


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Ya sure it is just an RS

B4Cyaa

1991 RS B4C
Former Nebraska Highway Patrol Car
305 TPI
WC T-5
Four Wheel Disk Brakes
Only Options
Rear Defrost
Am-Fm Radio
Red-int White-exe
One BA Of A 350 In The Works
Mods
Dynomax Cat Back (to hold me over till I got the $$$ for the Borla)
best 1/4mile Run of 14.92@94.83
with 145,000 on her
god speed dale

 

Good lord almighty... I think i've actually seen that car run before....

I havent' seen it for a while though otherwise I woulda picked his brain a bit.

It's been a while since they put up the new bilboards down the side there hasn't it.


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It's always SOMETHING

 

Well i don;t wana burst no bubbles. and i will admit that car is fast. but i have a "dare i mention the word" ford probe gt turbo. and i can eat a stock iroc. it's just a little 2.2L 4 banger but i'm running anywhere from 15-20 psi up from the stock 9 psi of boost off the turbo. so YES a turbo will make a WORLD of diferance on your cars.
i have seen a 2.2 turbo run a 14.234 run. at what speed i can't remember. i just happened to come to this page from a link so please don't "FLAM" me. i'm just trying to add what little advise i have on the turbo subject.
if you do a ram air intake, intercooler, and good everything eles you can have a 305 KICK SOME *** !!!
by all means i'm a chevy lover. i have a lifted truck with the good ol 502 in it. but my probe is my dialy driver and *** kicker when i need it to be.
i live at 7000 ft. so the turbo is a must.
it creats it's own atmasfear. so lower altatude doesn't help much.
good luck with your mods.
iAMDking.

 

Ooooo, where do i sign up to get a 15-20 Psi car that only runs 14's?? Hehehe, j/k

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BigBlockJason
85 Z28 T-Tops
http://communities.msn.com/JasonsStuff/homepage

 

I think I saw that car run about 3 years ago when I used to go to Atco a lot. I never saw it run nines, but low 10's still impressed me. I had no idea it was only a 305, I also have a hard time believing it. Last year at Numidia Stret Drags there was a guy with a bone stock black 76 Corvette. Someone told me he wound up in a Hot Rod article. Any way, this car could have gotten 100 points at a car show for factory originality. The only apparent mod was the 10-point cage. It had stock valve covers, all the stock hoses and everything. He pulled up to the water box and did a small burnout, the car sounded real quiet. He lit the prestage bulb and all of a sudden the car got loud as hell!!!! It was unreal!!! He made a tire shredding 11-something pass, and later ran a low 10. Whenever he drove back to the pits the car was quiet again. He swore it was a stock 350 (yeah right).
I crawled underneath the car and saw he had
2.5in turbo mufflers in the stock location, with cutoffs going to 4in. bullets. He later revealed the car had a 440 something small block in it with nitrous. He had all the plumbing hidden, and the bottle in a secret compartment he made. He tried to make the car look as stock as possible. The only giveaway was the cage. He said it's a blast blowing away Vipers and new corvettes with a bone stock appearing, quiet if he wants it to be car. It's the ultimate sleeper!!
I never saw the article, but I heard it was in a magazine.

 

Did he just put those Corvette valve covers on there and it's really a 305, or is it something more?

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'89 Camaro RS 6cyl. auto, don't know how much longer I'll have it.
'90 Iroc TPI 305, 5 spd B&M Ripper shifter, hopefully I can rob a bank or something and get more
www.geocities.com/irocnroll90

 

No, it's really a 305. But cubic money beats cubic inches every time. He has done a lot of fabricating and a lot has gone into that car. The times tell the story.

Oh and I thnk the new commer for his comments. Please no flames towards him or his probe. He has offered some help to the question and I thank him for it.



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-Bill

-=1987 Buick Grand National=-

*CC 218/218, ported and polished heads (1.77, 1.50), Accufab AFPR, custom DP by Custom Tubes,
Walbro 307 hotwired, 009s, custom PROM and 20psi of fury*

Wanna try me?

-=ICON Motorsports=-

Modertor TPI board

[This message has been edited by Bill91Z (edited April 19, 2001).]

 

Does anyone know if this guy has a web site or e-mail? There is soooo much I could learn.

Rob


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1987 IROC-Z Auto (LB9)
Black/grey interior with the stance of a streetfighter
I like to think of her as Arnold Schwartzeneger in a dinner suit

Mods
Custom exhaust. 4 Inch pipe from the headders all the way back to a single muffler at the rear. No Cat. K&Ns, AFPR and Air foil.

Future mods:
Cam change
New torque converter
New heads (maybe corvette L98)
Strut brace
Sub frame connectors
Ram Air

Current G-Tech times
0-60mph 6.26 seconds
1/4 14.74@100.2mph

 

Jerry Hogan's car is just as fast.

1988 GTA
ZZ3
STOCK EXTRUDE HONED TPI INTAKE
Vortech huge a$$ trim
headers,etc

9.90's @120's

This car is nuts. He is a member of www.mfba.org

If you want more details,someone there knows more.

 

IROCZ88, I read that article on that Vette. HotRod did a section on sleaper cars, this guy took the trophy!!! You are right, it looked stock as hell. The engine comp. picture even showed the stock exhaust manifolds. I beleive the hard part of the build up was to keep the engine quiet with the monster cam he had. The exhaust alone was a work of art.



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Joshua Johnston
1991 Z-28
Flowmaster
K&N
305 / 5spd. (Temporary)

 

Why not a 305, Look at how nasty fast the buick boys go. Thats only a six. God Bless Turbocharging. My dad has a GN they bad-*** . My friend has an 86 Porsche 944 turbo. It has a STOCK 2.5L four. He can kick the crap out of a super charged 12psi slicked up mustang with heads ect ect any day on radials. I've seen him do it many times. He played at the track once and only had about 11psi boost, and did a pathetic 2.9 60' time. However, he still managed a 13.6 at around 117-120!!!!! look at the MPH. That little thing hauls *** . He usually runs 20PSI. Everybody always gets him out of the hole, however mid track, he swiftly zips right past em. Nothing is better than seeing a mustang get beat down by a 4 cylinder.

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82' Z-28. 327" w/ flat tops. 216/228/112LS. Pocket ported 041 heads 1.94/1.50 SS valves. World Class T-5 from a 91'. Best run? Runs with 2001 vette to 150mph!

 

I must admit, the turbo on that Porsche is upgraded. But the long block is stock. I like the picture in the begining of this sequence, There is a slicked up mustang getting beat down by a camaro, Will somebody make a poster of that!!

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82' Z-28. 327" w/ flat tops. 216/228/112LS. Pocket ported 041 heads 1.94/1.50 SS valves. World Class T-5 from a 91'. Best run? Runs with 2001 vette to 150mph!

 

This guy has a book out called "how to run 11's in 3rd gen camaros" or something like that, it's in Jegs. The car was in a bunch of Magazines (hot rod, car craft etc) when he was still running 11's with a supercharger. The car is unreal, especially with a 305 and the guy is a total plethora of knowledge!

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'91 Z28 1LE; 355, Sportsman II heads, Edelbrock TPI w/ 58mm TB, Tremec TKO 5-speed, 3.73's & much, much more

 

What's mounted on the firewall behind the distributor?

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'87 Trans Am:
(Engine)
305 TPI
180 Degree Thermostat
JET Fan Switch
TB Bypass
Accel 300+ 8.8 Racing Wires
Accel Super Coil
Bosch Platinium Plugs
Custom Ram Air with K&N
Removed Emissions Equipment & Cat.
(Stereo)
Full Kenwood Excelon System

 

That looks like an Electromotive TEC-II engine management system. Those are coil packs you see on the firewall that replace the stock distributor...pretty cool.



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1989 IROC-Z, ZZ3 shortblock with some bolt-ons.
13.20 @ 108.69, 2.2 60'

 

those times are with the old supercharger, what is he running with the turbo system?

 

Cooooooool

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'87 Trans Am:
(Engine)
305 TPI
180 Degree Thermostat
JET Fan Switch
TB Bypass
Accel 300+ 8.8 Racing Wires
Accel Super Coil
Bosch Platinium Plugs
Custom Ram Air with K&N
Removed Emissions Equipment & Cat.
(Stereo)
Full Kenwood Excelon System

 

Damn this thread just wont die!


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-86 IROC
a few mods
this years goal: 10.50 @ 130+ mph
-=ICON Motorsports=-

 

its a badass card dude =)

gives me hope with the 305
haha

 

Yeah.....buddy!!!!!!! That's the Sh*t!! That's a bad mother ****** there!!!

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92 RS, 350, Street & Performance MPFI, TFS heads,
Crane Rollers,
MSD Digital 6 Plus, 22lb injectors,
ZZ3 cam, Edelbrock Headers 1 5/8, 3" Exhaust,
Hi Flow 3" Cat, stock T-5,
stock rear 3.08, koni yellow adjustable front, twin turbo glass hood, T-tops, Auto Meter Ultra Lite Series 2 5/8 gauges, Teal Green

 

This is one wicked ride yougot to admit.
Its easy to sit back and throw around names
like Calloway and Lingenfelter and the mysterious freind with the daily driven
7 sec emission leagal street car(8000 stall)
You all know the friends Im talking about.
This is a great website.

 

I saw it run 9.92@136 at New England Dragway.

I'll forward him the Link to this thread, he doesnt get on the Net much but Im sure he will read through here.

P.S.
It is a 305.

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Mike
1989 Turbo Trans-Am
11.25@121.25
Daily Driver

1998 Trans-Am LS1 6 Speed
13.10@106
Slow POS sitting in the Driveway awaiting repairs and then its For Sale. No More V8 Cars for me.

[This message has been edited by TTA (edited April 23, 2001).]

 

Smitty, I didnt know you wrote a book!?

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Mike
1989 Turbo Trans-Am
11.25@121.25
Daily Driver

1998 Trans-Am LS1 6 Speed
13.10@106
Slow POS sitting in the Driveway awaiting repairs and then its For Sale. No More V8 Cars for me.

 

I seen that car at e-town a few months ago and it was running high 9's, and i think it ran 1 low 10 and you would never know it, the car is very quiet for a 9 second car. that car is just insane, and it has the cleanest engine bay Ive ever seen.

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88 IROC-Z 350 TPI 5 speed
350 Crate motor from Go Auto Center with Crans Cams CompuCam, Edlebrock TES headers with Jet-Hot coating, Performance Resource Chip, Mac off road pipe, Flowmaster American Thunder cat back exhaust, B&M Ripper shifter, MSD coil, TB bypass, TPIS MAT relocation kit , AC Delco 160* t-stat, Richmond 3.73 gears, March Power & Amp pullies, Steve Spohn SFC's LCA's Panhard bar, and LCA relocation brackets, Holley AFPR, Ported plenum by Daniel Burk

Best et: 13.548
Best mph:100.69
Best 60':1.970

hometown.aol.com/famioso15/johnnyiroc.html

 

oh, my *** ! i wan't to know his engine specs.

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87 formula
LB9, Automatic
K&N
3" mandrel bent exhaust,
v-force muffler
Hypertech preformance

 

what is his website?

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Brandon
"ScreaminDeamin 360"
350 60 over, TRW forged 9.83:1 pistons,Hooker Comp headers, crane cam 216/228 .484/.512, crane 1.6 RR's, ported plenum, home made ram air, 24lb SVO injectors, crane AFPR, all going through 3 inch mandrel pipe and a flowmaster.
New project-89 IROC-305 5spd...Jamex Springs...and thats just about it!Soon- 6 speed, Pro 5.0 shifter and 4.10's

http://ScreaminDeamin.cz28.com

 

I met Smitty at e-town this past July. He ran 11.02 @ 124 that day with 16psi of boost on drag radials.

His car is beutiful.

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-86 IROC

-=ICON Motorsports=-

 

I still wanna see that car in person!!

 

WHAT????? 9sec.....305? OH HELL YEAH. I was just about five days away from signing a check for a hot 350. Think im going to call Turbonetics instead!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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86 Z-28,305,700r-4,t-top.
"DRIVE IT LIKE YOU STOLE IT!!!!!!!!!!"