i hate this car
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From: edmonton alberta canada
Car: 91 rs,1 92 rs,92 b4c/1le
Engine: 5.0tbi,5.7 tune port/5.0tpi
Transmission: 5spdx2 and t56
Axle/Gears: 3.08,3.73,3.42
i hate this car
got a 91 z 5.0 tpi ,new ford 30 injectors,intake gasket,fuel pump,tps,coolant temp sensor,new plugs,new distributor,no cat. car has a surging idle,and bucks under light acceleration and on cruise,if so one knows the problem let me know it will set code 45 on the highway.
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Car: 85 trans am
Engine: 350 4bm TPI
Transmission: 700r4
Re: i hate this car
Did you get a new chip burned to compensate for the 11 pound increase for the injectors? (I think 305's had 19lb injectors), or check your TPS voltage (.54v), maybe even something simple like a vacuum leak
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From: Houston, Texas
Car: 88' IROCZ
Engine: 388 TPI Motown 350 Race block
Transmission: 700R4
Axle/Gears: 2.77
Re: i hate this car
I have 30# injectors on my 6.4Liter and their more than enough for my application.
Why did you use them on a 5Liter and as asked did you update the programming?
Why did you use them on a 5Liter and as asked did you update the programming?
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Car: 1989 Camaro Iroc-Z
Engine: 305 TPI (LB9)
Transmission: 700R4
Axle/Gears: 2.77 posi
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I think the Ford injectors are rated @ a higher PSI, so they aren't actually flowing 30lbs/hr. But, I would think there is still a big difference in flow between the stock 19's and whatever the Fords are flowing. Just like everyone else has been asking: Did you get a chip programmed to account for the new injector flow rate?
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Car: 87 GTA
Engine: 385 sbc
Transmission: 700r4
Axle/Gears: 2.73 posi
Re: i hate this car
Holy crap,IIRC Lingenfelter ran a 400hp 355 with 19lb injectors. 30lb in a 305 is way over kill.. code 45 is running rich at the 02 sensor
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From: edmonton alberta canada
Car: 91 rs,1 92 rs,92 b4c/1le
Engine: 5.0tbi,5.7 tune port/5.0tpi
Transmission: 5spdx2 and t56
Axle/Gears: 3.08,3.73,3.42
Re: i hate this car
car ran the same with stock injecotrs except no code but then again it never ran well/long.if i could figure out why on take off and at cruise this thing jerks around like it did before i changed everything i might enjoy this car and not want to part it if you dive it like you stole it this 5.0 is impressive but if you try to drive normal it acts like you don't know how to drive a stick.as far as tuning i threw a hypertech chip in and it was no differerent
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Car: 1989 Camaro Iroc-Z
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Re: i hate this car
You would need a custom chip, one that is specifically programmed for the new injector flow rate. AFAIK Hypertech just changes fan turn on temp (so you can run a lower t. stat) and maybe some slightly different timing...
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Car: 86 Camaro iroc-z28
Engine: 305 TPI
Transmission: 700R4
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wow, stock 305 injectors are 19lb, and ford injectors actually flow more than specified, like getting ford 19lb injectors is like getting 22lb bosch injectors. anyways i know your over fueling it. also check your TPS sensor, that usually makes the car act wierd while driving
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Car: 1989 Camaro Iroc-Z
Engine: 305 TPI (LB9)
Transmission: 700R4
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Re: i hate this car
wow, stock 305 injectors are 19lb, and ford injectors actually flow more than specified, like getting ford 19lb injectors is like getting 22lb bosch injectors. anyways i know your over fueling it. also check your TPS sensor, that usually makes the car act wierd while driving
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From: GA
Car: 89 Firbird Formula WS6
Engine: TPI 305
Transmission: T 5
Axle/Gears: 3.45 Posi 9 bolt
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You replaced the TPS. That is the only thing stated that has a variable. When you work on something and it does not work after, go back to the last thing you worked on. Recal the TPS.
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Car: 92 GTA/ 00 TA
Engine: 383/350
Transmission: 700R4/T-56
Re: i hate this car
I was finally able to eliminate my surge by removing a lot of timing and a lot of fuel through programming.
24lb over 19lb injectors is too much for the ecm to compensate for. The ECM can only handle 10% not 20% without reprogramming.
24lb over 19lb injectors is too much for the ecm to compensate for. The ECM can only handle 10% not 20% without reprogramming.
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From: edmonton alberta canada
Car: 91 rs,1 92 rs,92 b4c/1le
Engine: 5.0tbi,5.7 tune port/5.0tpi
Transmission: 5spdx2 and t56
Axle/Gears: 3.08,3.73,3.42
Re: i hate this car
replace injectors with 19lbs that seems to cured all problems except i think i may have a crappy plug wire as i have a slight surge part throttle so new wires and this car should be ready to go to a new home
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